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Post by Detective Boyle on Feb 1, 2022 19:52:55 GMT 1
I’m not sure it works like that. All teams bid the amount the release clause is set at, the player then has a choice to pick which club out of those he wants. It’s at this stage the clubs start to really get into a bidding war, but more in terms of wages and signing on/agent fees. This is 100% correct. The whole purpose of a release clause is the club have to contractually accept, they can’t then start a bidding war. Unfortunately if anyone wants to hit the £10m (if it is definitely that amount) he will go for that amount, should he desire. The more I see him play, the more I think 10m would be a steal. |
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Post by Wingman on Feb 1, 2022 21:51:42 GMT 1
Sadly I think we are stuck with this possible clause; his agent and LOB will have said they’d sign on again but only if that clause was in there to protect themselves.
He’s going to go and we can only wish him well when he does. And being realistic, isn’t that what we have to accept now? We find, develop and sell-on the best we have. It’ll hurt, but I think I’d prefer that than us be beholden to a benefactor that props us up and potentially pull the rug when they’ve had enough, and put the existence of the club at risk. See Derby et al for examples.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 1, 2022 22:01:44 GMT 1
Sadly I think we are stuck with this possible clause; his agent and LOB will have said they’d sign on again but only if that clause was in there to protect themselves. He’s going to go and we can only wish him well when he does. And being realistic, isn’t that what we have to accept now? We find, develop and sell-on the best we have. It’ll hurt, but I think I’d prefer that than us be beholden to a benefactor that props us up and potentially pull the rug when they’ve had enough, and put the existence of the club at risk. See Derby et al for examples. We may still be a selling club in some respects, but the difference in the last few seasons, is that we're not having to sell players. That's a big difference to a few seasons back... |
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Post by tvor on Feb 2, 2022 1:21:38 GMT 1
Really doubt the Geordie's will come anywhere near the likes of O'Brien if they stay up. They will start to pay crazy money for the very best from around the world !!! Exactly, the suggestion that Newcastle will be in for him in the summer is laughable. Hehe. Was slightly a tongue in cheek comment but all that crazy money and some of first signings include paying over the odds for Wood and Burn. Small steps and whatever might happen in the future I doubt that’s what their fans were expecting so stranger things have happened 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 2, 2022 7:18:28 GMT 1
This is 100% correct. The whole purpose of a release clause is the club have to contractually accept, they can’t then start a bidding war. Unfortunately if anyone wants to hit the £10m (if it is definitely that amount) he will go for that amount, should he desire. The more I see him play, the more I think 10m would be a steal. I guess if the club think that too then they go back to LOB with a new deal - more wages - and a higher release clause. Everyone's a winner. |
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Post by bentley316 on Feb 2, 2022 11:42:18 GMT 1
I do wonder if he sees how Schindler, Mooy, Hogg and many others from the promotion and prem seasons get hero worshipped and maybe wants to be spoken about in the same breath as those legends vs being a cog for another club.
That said I certainly wouldn't begrudge him a move. I could see someone like Wolves or Palace having a punt on him in the summer.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 2, 2022 13:41:02 GMT 1
The more I see him play, the more I think 10m would be a steal. I guess if the club think that too then they go back to LOB with a new deal - more wages - and a higher release clause. Everyone's a winner. I would add a caveat that it has 2 been done with no less than 2 weeks remaining in the window to go or its a bidding war with no buyout clause  . Lets call it a late payment charge. give Lewis 20% of the increment. |
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Post by htfctx on Feb 2, 2022 14:55:49 GMT 1
LOB transfer talk certainly sets the emotional levels. I admire Brentford having the "stones" to sell their best players and have the confidence in analytics to buy the next replacement.
This scenario is where Towns financial viability for the future is set.
We are not going to increase revenue by suddenly doubling attendance. A benevolent new owner, not affiliated with the club? Down tools and up sticks in a heartbeat.
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 17, 2022 20:12:02 GMT 1
O’Brien’s a strange one. He gets around the pitch really well and is like an old skool box-to-box midfielder, yet he doesn’t create a great deal or chip in with many goals. We all know he’s a good player, I really like him, but he’s not going to turn a game like some others in that position. So, what’s his actual value?
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Feb 17, 2022 23:24:42 GMT 1
O’Brien’s a strange one. He gets around the pitch really well and is like an old skool box-to-box midfielder, yet he doesn’t create a great deal or chip in with many goals. We all know he’s a good player, I really like him, but he’s not going to turn a game like some others in that position. So, what’s his actual value? 10 million. While he is under contract, and sky sports pundits keep singing his praises. |
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Post by townrwe on Feb 18, 2022 8:26:39 GMT 1
O’Brien’s a strange one. He gets around the pitch really well and is like an old skool box-to-box midfielder, yet he doesn’t create a great deal or chip in with many goals. We all know he’s a good player, I really like him, but he’s not going to turn a game like some others in that position. So, what’s his actual value? The central midfield needs a complete rethink. Hogg and obrien are both quality players, but not the style of quality we need. You just have to watch rookie Russell to see what could be. Left winger, no.10 and striker on the wish list as well. If we sold obrien, koroma and released Campbell and the loan deals, give hogg a bit part role, then that would be a summer possibility. |
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 18, 2022 8:36:06 GMT 1
O’Brien’s a strange one. He gets around the pitch really well and is like an old skool box-to-box midfielder, yet he doesn’t create a great deal or chip in with many goals. We all know he’s a good player, I really like him, but he’s not going to turn a game like some others in that position. So, what’s his actual value? The central midfield needs a complete rethink. Hogg and obrien are both quality players, but not the style of quality we need. You just have to watch rookie Russell to see what could be. Left winger, no.10 and striker on the wish list as well. If we sold obrien, koroma and released Campbell and the loan deals, give hogg a bit part role, then that would be a summer possibility. People on here were claiming Koroma was worth over £5m a month ago! 🤦🏻♂️😂 |
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 18, 2022 22:21:11 GMT 1
If you can't see how unbelievably class O Brien is then you aren't watching the games. He would get in every side in this league.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 19, 2022 22:27:14 GMT 1
If you can't see how unbelievably class O Brien is then you aren't watching the games. He would get in every side in this league. And half the prem match day squads |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Feb 20, 2022 1:35:03 GMT 1
I really liked him further forward today. He kept Fulham defenders from pushing forward. He does tend to hold the ball just a little too long, and he needs to get his head up and look for support a little earlier. That will come with confidence and experience though. One of the best games he's had in a while. Thought for a while that we are wasting him holding deep on a corner to pick up the defensive ball. Great stuff CC.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Feb 28, 2022 7:48:50 GMT 1
Hopefully Bielsa going is the end of the Leeds interest.
I still think (unless we go up) he'll go in the summer, but would rather he went to somewhere like Brentford or Brighton, somewhere I can actually cheer him on.
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Mar 20, 2022 14:39:47 GMT 1
Sell him for 15 million and back Carlos in the summer.
Proper transfers for actual real money.
I’m confident we can challenge top two.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 20, 2022 19:31:52 GMT 1
Sell him for 15 million and back Carlos in the summer. Proper transfers for actual real money. I’m confident we can challenge top two. I think we probably will let him go. 2 problems there. Firstly would any of the money be made available to the manager Secondly finding someone to replace him. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Mar 20, 2022 22:48:22 GMT 1
Sell him for 15 million and back Carlos in the summer. Proper transfers for actual real money. I’m confident we can challenge top two. I think we probably will let him go. 2 problems there. Firstly would any of the money be made available to the manager Secondly finding someone to replace him. 3rd problem, unless he signs a new contract, the maximum amount we’ll get for him is £10mil |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Mar 21, 2022 22:18:51 GMT 1
I think we probably will let him go. 2 problems there. Firstly would any of the money be made available to the manager Secondly finding someone to replace him. 3rd problem, unless he signs a new contract, the maximum amount we’ll get for him is £10mil Seen this £10m mentioned a few times but still yet to see any substance to the rumour. Where did this come from initially? |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 3, 2022 14:15:11 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move.
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Post by ponteterrier on Jun 3, 2022 15:48:49 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move. I can't see him wanting a sidewards move when he knows he'll be an important first teamer every week here. I suppose it depends on what's going on behind the scenes. If he thinks management are going to try and mount a promotion push, I don't think he'll want a move. I don't even think Leeds could tempt him unless they stump up an amount DH deems enough. In which case DH will be telling him he's leaving. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 3, 2022 16:01:50 GMT 1
I can see him going to Palace, or West Ham if Rice moves on.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 3, 2022 16:05:07 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move. I can't see him wanting a sidewards move when he knows he'll be an important first teamer every week here. I suppose it depends on what's going on behind the scenes. If he thinks management are going to try and mount a promotion push, I don't think he'll want a move. I don't even think Leeds could tempt him unless they stump up an amount DH deems enough. In which case DH will be telling him he's leaving. Plus with the Yank in charge, and that sulky Brazilian wanting away, is there going to be 3 worse teams than them next season 🤔. Hopefully they're battling it out with the twiglets for 19th & 20th place |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jun 3, 2022 16:17:51 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move. Nothing more than the pre agreed 10-12m release clause can be demanded, which is a shame because I agree with your estimation |
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Post by crux on Jun 3, 2022 16:34:21 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move. Nothing more than the pre agreed 10-12m release clause can be demanded, which is a shame because I agree with your estimation If there is a release clause (and this hasn't been confirmed, just rumoured), then we can demand it all up front. If the buyer wants to pay in installments we can agree a higher fee. With Football interest rates of at least 10% any club would be paying at least £1M per year in interest to borrow money to pay the fee up front. So I'm sure there's room for manoeuvre. If we sold him to WBA on similar terms to Grant, then WBA would be paying almost half our wage bill a year in transfer fee payments 🤣 |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 3, 2022 20:54:14 GMT 1
Leeds and WBA linked now. WBA would be a poor move and I’d be pretty disappointed if he moved sideways there. If Leeds have the £15m (which I’d demand) then you could understand that move. I can't see him wanting a sidewards move when he knows he'll be an important first teamer every week here. I suppose it depends on what's going on behind the scenes. If he thinks management are going to try and mount a promotion push, I don't think he'll want a move. I don't even think Leeds could tempt him unless they stump up an amount DH deems enough. In which case DH will be telling him he's leaving. Agree Ponte. Why go to WBA when we will be above them in the league next season. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 3, 2022 22:01:37 GMT 1
I can't see him wanting a sidewards move when he knows he'll be an important first teamer every week here. I suppose it depends on what's going on behind the scenes. If he thinks management are going to try and mount a promotion push, I don't think he'll want a move. I don't even think Leeds could tempt him unless they stump up an amount DH deems enough. In which case DH will be telling him he's leaving. Agree Ponte. Why go to WBA when we will be above them in the league next season. Similar why Rhodes went to Blackburn. Money money money |
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