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Post by waggers on Jan 2, 2022 1:07:01 GMT 1
I'll be honest, I rate the lad but if offered 15m I'd likely sell. With the right recruitment you could improve the side significantly with that cash. That is only if we had assurances that the majority of that money would be used to improve the squad and not going straight to pay off Hoyle (I'm not trying to start the old Hoyle argument again, just staying). What on this planet makes you think we would invest any of that? Its pure madness. We have a team of free transfers and cheap signings. We will never replace O Brien with 10, 15 or 20 million and we are 6th. We should be keeping our best players. That is why I said 'if' we re-invested the money. I never said I thought they would. I think 15m is a lot of money for him. |
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Post by waggers on Jan 2, 2022 1:11:04 GMT 1
I'll be honest, I rate the lad but if offered 15m I'd likely sell. With the right recruitment you could improve the side significantly with that cash. That is only if we had assurances that the majority of that money would be used to improve the squad and not going straight to pay off Hoyle (I'm not trying to start the old Hoyle argument again, just staying). Why would you sell him? He's the heartbeat of the team and unless we get an offer we or indeed he cant refuse then i for once am with big ern. We want to be adding to what we have in what in my opinion is a mediocre league this year again. Staying free of injuries and adding a touch of additional quality and top 6 is surprisingly achievable imho.....unlikely but as ever we need to aspire to be the best we can be. Like I said, if the 15m wes re-invested into the club on additional players I'd take 15m with pleasure. I appreciate I don't think it would be that's why I said if. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 2, 2022 8:50:00 GMT 1
It’s inevitable that O Brien goes, but it will rip the heartbeat out of this team. We can play another way in time but it will be tough to change mid season and still keep winning games.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 2, 2022 11:22:37 GMT 1
What on this planet makes you think we would invest any of that? Its pure madness. We have a team of free transfers and cheap signings. We will never replace O Brien with 10, 15 or 20 million and we are 6th. We should be keeping our best players. That is why I said 'if' we re-invested the money. I never said I thought they would. I think 15m is a lot of money for him. You can buy a lot of shite for 15m as we only know too well. |
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Post by waggers on Jan 2, 2022 11:38:26 GMT 1
That is why I said 'if' we re-invested the money. I never said I thought they would. I think 15m is a lot of money for him. You can buy a lot of shite for 15m as we only know too well. Agreed, and I know those shite too well. We have picked up a few decent buys in the cheaper lower million range though and done quite well there. I agree though yes we've signed some dross, I'm attempting to be optimistic. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 2, 2022 11:39:45 GMT 1
You can buy a lot of shite for 15m as we only know too well. Agreed, and I know those shite too well. We have picked up a few decent buys in the cheaper lower million range though and done quite well there. I agree though yes we've signed some dross, I'm attempting to be optimistic. Yep! We're (Hoyle) not going to make that mistake again! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 2, 2022 12:24:31 GMT 1
I'll be honest, I rate the lad but if offered 15m I'd likely sell. With the right recruitment you could improve the side significantly with that cash. That is only if we had assurances that the majority of that money would be used to improve the squad and not going straight to pay off Hoyle (I'm not trying to start the old Hoyle argument again, just staying). Why would you sell him? He's the heartbeat of the team and unless we get an offer we or indeed he cant refuse then i for once am with big ern. We want to be adding to what we have in what in my opinion is a mediocre league this year again. Staying free of injuries and adding a touch of additional quality and top 6 is surprisingly achievable imho.....unlikely but as ever we need to aspire to be the best we can be. Won't have a choice if someone meets his release clause and if he is prepared to leave Toff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 13:02:13 GMT 1
Why would you sell him? He's the heartbeat of the team and unless we get an offer we or indeed he cant refuse then i for once am with big ern. We want to be adding to what we have in what in my opinion is a mediocre league this year again. Staying free of injuries and adding a touch of additional quality and top 6 is surprisingly achievable imho.....unlikely but as ever we need to aspire to be the best we can be. Won't have a choice if someone meets his release clause and if he is prepared to leave Toff. Correct but some just don't get it ten million is the fee agreed between town and obrian if met he will go if he wants that is the end of it but if some one is prepared to go above ten that is better for town more clubs interested the better |
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Post by Dan on Jan 2, 2022 13:05:57 GMT 1
Won't have a choice if someone meets his release clause and if he is prepared to leave Toff. Correct but some just don't get it ten million is the fee agreed between town and obrian if met he will go if he wants that is the end of it but if some one is prepared to go above ten that is better for town more clubs interested the better Yes I'm sure there'll be lots of clubs who look at the situation and see that we have to accept any bid of £10 million and think, 'you know what, lets just offer £13 million for the hell of it!' |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 2, 2022 13:33:18 GMT 1
Won't have a choice if someone meets his release clause and if he is prepared to leave Toff. Correct but some just don't get it ten million is the fee agreed between town and obrian if met he will go if he wants that is the end of it but if some one is prepared to go above ten that is better for town more clubs interested the better Why would any club offer HTAFC a penny more than the amount stipulated in the release clause? |
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Post by yeti1975 on Jan 2, 2022 16:05:45 GMT 1
Correct but some just don't get it ten million is the fee agreed between town and obrian if met he will go if he wants that is the end of it but if some one is prepared to go above ten that is better for town more clubs interested the better Why would any club offer HTAFC a penny more than the amount stipulated in the release clause? This is all assuming there is actually a £10,000,000 release clause, I could be wrong but I'm sure Huddersfield Town didn't announce there was one when Lewis signed his contract. Perhaps it's just a rumour? |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 2, 2022 17:21:20 GMT 1
Why would any club offer HTAFC a penny more than the amount stipulated in the release clause? This is all assuming there is actually a £10,000,000 release clause, I could be wrong but I'm sure Huddersfield Town didn't announce there was one when Lewis signed his contract. Perhaps it's just a rumour? True. If there's no release clause then it's immaterial & we probably want a bidding war. I'm working on the assumption that there is one. |
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Post by yeti1975 on Jan 2, 2022 17:23:17 GMT 1
This is all assuming there is actually a £10,000,000 release clause, I could be wrong but I'm sure Huddersfield Town didn't announce there was one when Lewis signed his contract. Perhaps it's just a rumour? True. If there's no release clause then it's immaterial & we probably want a bidding war. I'm working on the assumption that there is one. That would be much better for Town, fingers crossed that's the case |
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Post by ritchie on Jan 3, 2022 12:15:17 GMT 1
Release clause would have to be paid in full upfront, so maybe a team could negotiate a higher fee over a few years to bypass that. Not sure how often that happens
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Post by k1man999 on Feb 1, 2022 10:37:57 GMT 1
Best bit of business of the window keeping this lad.
Been great all season,yes has faults in his game but Imo POTS along with Nichols.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Feb 1, 2022 10:51:16 GMT 1
I'd be offering him another new deal now, minus the release clause.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 1, 2022 11:45:37 GMT 1
Leeds probably don't have £10m to pay for O’Brien upfront.
They'll still be licking their wounds from spaffing £55m on James & Rodrigo + the other £50m+ on injury prone duds. The only real good business they've done is Raphinha.
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Post by detox on Feb 1, 2022 12:01:07 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure O'brien will leave in the summer if we haven't been promoted...and I think there's likely to be more interest than just Leeds so yes, a bidding war could easily happen..and depending who's involved (eg newcastle) that could end up us receiving 'silly money'.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 1, 2022 12:17:04 GMT 1
Toff had put a tweet out when Eiting was announced, one of the replies was that he could let O'Brien out of the cellar at 23.01 🤣
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 1, 2022 12:24:56 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure O'brien will leave in the summer if we haven't been promoted...and I think there's likely to be more interest than just Leeds so yes, a bidding war could easily happen..and depending who's involved (eg newcastle) that could end up us receiving 'silly money'. He has a release clause rumoured to be between 10-12m, so no bidding war. |
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 1, 2022 14:13:23 GMT 1
Yep. Any bidding war once they've reached the amount in the release clause will be a war to impress the player.
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Post by Sparrow on Feb 1, 2022 14:42:10 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure O'brien will leave in the summer if we haven't been promoted...and I think there's likely to be more interest than just Leeds so yes, a bidding war could easily happen..and depending who's involved (eg newcastle) that could end up us receiving 'silly money'. He has a release clause rumoured to be between 10-12m, so no bidding war. I stand to be correct here. If his release clause is £10m and a few clubs are showing real interest in him, then one club could come in with a silly bid much higher than the release clause to try and get him, say £15m. In turn that could lead to another team offering more, say £17m, which in turn could result in the first club making another offer of £17.5m and so on....So even with a release clause, if a few teams are interested, a 'bidding war' could happen. If an Agent is working with either Town or the buying/bidding club to get a deal done, then it would be in the Agents interest to have the transfer fee pushed as high as possible as they would get a percentage. As I say, I stand to be corrected, but we could receive more that what his release clause is set at if someone really wants him and are prepared to pay |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Feb 1, 2022 15:01:50 GMT 1
He has a release clause rumoured to be between 10-12m, so no bidding war. I stand to be correct here. If his release clause is £10m and a few clubs are showing real interest in him, then one club could come in with a silly bid much higher than the release clause to try and get him, say £15m. In turn that could lead to another team offering more, say £17m, which in turn could result in the first club making another offer of £17.5m and so on....So even with a release clause, if a few teams are interested, a 'bidding war' could happen. If an Agent is working with either Town or the buying/bidding club to get a deal done, then it would be in the Agents interest to have the transfer fee pushed as high as possible as they would get a percentage. As I say, I stand to be corrected, but we could receive more that what his release clause is set at if someone really wants him and are prepared to pay I’m not sure it works like that. All teams bid the amount the release clause is set at, the player then has a choice to pick which club out of those he wants. It’s at this stage the clubs start to really get into a bidding war, but more in terms of wages and signing on/agent fees. |
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Post by tvor on Feb 1, 2022 15:18:08 GMT 1
Leeds probably don't have £10m to pay for O’Brien upfront. They'll still be licking their wounds from spaffing £55m on James & Rodrigo + the other £50m+ on injury prone duds. The only real good business they've done is Raphinha. They’ll get their money back when they sell him to a big club in the summer. |
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Post by tvor on Feb 1, 2022 15:29:16 GMT 1
I like to think that the woman who screamed ‘don’t go Lewis’ to him as he walked near the ground in his track suit at the first home game played her part but things have changed since the summer window. At the start of the season, their ‘fans’ (and potential signings) might have expected them to progress up the league but it shows what happens when you let ‘fans’ into Elland Road. Apart from the money, why would anyone swap being near the top of the Championship with being near the bottom of the PL when the clubs could swap places? Even if that doesn’t happen, some Leeds ‘fans’ are starting to lose faith in Bielsa. From what I understand the statue is on hold even if the media love in continues but at some point, sooner rather than later, he’ll go, causing more uncertainty. Maybe Lewis just prefers it here but having seen what’s happened up to Christmas probably thought it’s best to wait for the Geordie’s millions.
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Post by isitjustme on Feb 1, 2022 16:07:22 GMT 1
I like to think that the woman who screamed ‘don’t go Lewis’ to him as he walked near the ground in his track suit at the first home game played her part but things have changed since the summer window. At the start of the season, their ‘fans’ (and potential signings) might have expected them to progress up the league but it shows what happens when you let ‘fans’ into Elland Road. Apart from the money, why would anyone swap being near the top of the Championship with being near the bottom of the PL when the clubs could swap places? Even if that doesn’t happen, some Leeds ‘fans’ are starting to lose faith in Bielsa. From what I understand the statue is on hold even if the media love in continues but at some point, sooner rather than later, he’ll go, causing more uncertainty. Maybe Lewis just prefers it here but having seen what’s happened up to Christmas probably thought it’s best to wait for the Geordie’s millions.Really doubt the Geordie's will come anywhere near the likes of O'Brien if they stay up. They will start to pay crazy money for the very best from around the world !!! |
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Post by Sparrow on Feb 1, 2022 17:06:23 GMT 1
I stand to be correct here. If his release clause is £10m and a few clubs are showing real interest in him, then one club could come in with a silly bid much higher than the release clause to try and get him, say £15m. In turn that could lead to another team offering more, say £17m, which in turn could result in the first club making another offer of £17.5m and so on....So even with a release clause, if a few teams are interested, a 'bidding war' could happen. If an Agent is working with either Town or the buying/bidding club to get a deal done, then it would be in the Agents interest to have the transfer fee pushed as high as possible as they would get a percentage. As I say, I stand to be corrected, but we could receive more that what his release clause is set at if someone really wants him and are prepared to pay I’m not sure it works like that. All teams bid the amount the release clause is set at, the player then has a choice to pick which club out of those he wants. It’s at this stage the clubs start to really get into a bidding war, but more in terms of wages and signing on/agent fees. You could very well be correct |
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Post by benhomly on Feb 1, 2022 17:07:57 GMT 1
I like to think that the woman who screamed ‘don’t go Lewis’ to him as he walked near the ground in his track suit at the first home game played her part but things have changed since the summer window. At the start of the season, their ‘fans’ (and potential signings) might have expected them to progress up the league but it shows what happens when you let ‘fans’ into Elland Road. Apart from the money, why would anyone swap being near the top of the Championship with being near the bottom of the PL when the clubs could swap places? Even if that doesn’t happen, some Leeds ‘fans’ are starting to lose faith in Bielsa. From what I understand the statue is on hold even if the media love in continues but at some point, sooner rather than later, he’ll go, causing more uncertainty. Maybe Lewis just prefers it here but having seen what’s happened up to Christmas probably thought it’s best to wait for the Geordie’s millions.Really doubt the Geordie's will come anywhere near the likes of O'Brien if they stay up. They will start to pay crazy money for the very best from around the world !!! Exactly, the suggestion that Newcastle will be in for him in the summer is laughable. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 1, 2022 18:40:46 GMT 1
I’m not sure it works like that. All teams bid the amount the release clause is set at, the player then has a choice to pick which club out of those he wants. It’s at this stage the clubs start to really get into a bidding war, but more in terms of wages and signing on/agent fees. You could very well be correct He is correct. Agents fees also aren't a % of transfer fees, they are a totally separate negotiation. Quite often payable on contract renewals too, especially at the highest level. |
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Post by ldotm on Feb 1, 2022 19:24:14 GMT 1
I stand to be correct here. If his release clause is £10m and a few clubs are showing real interest in him, then one club could come in with a silly bid much higher than the release clause to try and get him, say £15m. In turn that could lead to another team offering more, say £17m, which in turn could result in the first club making another offer of £17.5m and so on....So even with a release clause, if a few teams are interested, a 'bidding war' could happen. If an Agent is working with either Town or the buying/bidding club to get a deal done, then it would be in the Agents interest to have the transfer fee pushed as high as possible as they would get a percentage. As I say, I stand to be corrected, but we could receive more that what his release clause is set at if someone really wants him and are prepared to pay I’m not sure it works like that. All teams bid the amount the release clause is set at, the player then has a choice to pick which club out of those he wants. It’s at this stage the clubs start to really get into a bidding war, but more in terms of wages and signing on/agent fees. This is 100% correct. The whole purpose of a release clause is the club have to contractually accept, they can’t then start a bidding war. Unfortunately if anyone wants to hit the £10m (if it is definitely that amount) he will go for that amount, should he desire. |
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