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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 14:18:39 GMT 1
another "rebel in drawers". Wants the same pay as men. Well then love you will have to take a pay cut because you make $1 million a year and guys in the Conference about 15 times less. I say Conference to be kind....probably step 7, Concord or Emley....and then you would not stand out. Absolutely deluded. Does everyone on a movie earn the same? If i play guitar in a working mens club band should i get the same as Elton John? Which planet do these loons live on and why are they never challenged? When 100,000 turn up to watch you regularly and you sell 1 million shirts a year then you might have an argument. www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/51389837 |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 25, 2021 14:25:30 GMT 1
How to twist a positive story into a negative story by O.T Ium
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Post by benhomly on Mar 25, 2021 14:30:50 GMT 1
Exactly, there's a huge difference between wanting the same prize money in football and same pay (although personally I don't think they should get the same prize money either but then that's up to the sponsors I suppose).
Like you say Oti when they get the same crowds and the same income as the men's game then they can demand the same pay because the finances will be there to allow it.
Take Town as an example, how on earth could they justify the same wages when Town play at a decent stadium in front of 20,000 people week in week out and Huddersfield Town Ladies play at Storthes Hall playing fields (Stafflex Arena - Arena? hmmm) in front of how many? 50? I walk the dog up there a lot and I wouldn't stop to watch for nothing, never mind pay £30 a ticket.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 14:31:09 GMT 1
And yes, she is a good womens footballer.....just not good enough for mens football.
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Post by Hellawell on Mar 25, 2021 14:31:35 GMT 1
I may be incorrect, in which case my apologies, but isn't her quest for equal pay limited to the monies received for playing for the national team? In this scenario, for USA at least, the argument makes much more sense, given the female national team garners more viewers than the male national team who rarely qualify for national tournaments.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 14:32:18 GMT 1
How to twist a positive story into a negative story by O.T Ium How is it "positive"? You are shallower than a mirror Teddy. Rick from the Young Ones. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 14:34:41 GMT 1
I may be incorrect, in which case my apologies, but isn't her quest for equal pay limited to the monies received for playing for the national team? In this scenario, for USA at least, the argument makes much more sense, given the female national team garners more viewers than the male national team who rarely qualify for national tournaments. Considering she has more caps than appearences you may be right. However, the Womens USA team will not generate a tenth of the mens for certain....simply not possible. Multi-millionairess who does not really work wanting a bleat about nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 14:40:55 GMT 1
I may be incorrect, in which case my apologies, but isn't her quest for equal pay limited to the monies received for playing for the national team? In this scenario, for USA at least, the argument makes much more sense, given the female national team garners more viewers than the male national team who rarely qualify for national tournaments. Considering she has more caps than appearences you may be right. However, the Womens USA team will not generate a tenth of the mens for certain....simply not possible. Multi-millionairess who does not really work wanting a bleat about nothing. If I were an American marketing man, and I had to pick one of my nation's teams to sell out a stadium - given what I know about the state of the U.S. soccer market - it'd be the women's team every time. worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/ |
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Post by leedsroadrob on Mar 25, 2021 15:00:28 GMT 1
I'm not posting very often now, but why is this poisonous twat suddenly appearing in the football forum - I thought his milieu was the politics forum where he can share his misanthropic inanity with those who vote to view it. Get shut.
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Post by benhomly on Mar 25, 2021 15:17:07 GMT 1
I'm not posting very often now, but why is this poisonous twat suddenly appearing in the football forum - I thought his milieu was the politic forum where he can share his misanthropic inanity with those who vote to view it. Get shut. A discussion about earnings in the men's and women's game is a valid and current one in my opinion. He could put his arguments forward a little differently I'll grant you but valid nonetheless. |
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Post by Mav on Mar 25, 2021 15:21:07 GMT 1
I'm not posting very often now, but why is this poisonous twat suddenly appearing in the football forum - I thought his milieu was the politic forum where he can share his misanthropic inanity with those who vote to view it. Get shut. Tad harsh old boy. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 25, 2021 15:33:21 GMT 1
I'm not posting very often now, but why is this poisonous twat suddenly appearing in the football forum - I thought his milieu was the politic forum where he can share his misanthropic inanity with those who vote to view it. Get shut. Can I politely suggest that in future you don't click on a thread created by a poster who you view with such disdain. Some of us quite like to see the sometimes controversial views of the said poster, whether those be football related or otherwise. I'm surprised that you haven't blocked him before now  |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 25, 2021 16:24:01 GMT 1
Surely this is a non story? The more people who watch and enjoy women's football will see the financial rewards rise? It's not like horse racing where men and women compete equally. The rewards will find their level as interest increases. There's no reason why women's football shouldn't be enjoyed. To compare with different levels of men's football is surely pointless?
Is a top woman footballer worth less than a male? Technically no, but until the interest is at the same level and the same revenue levels are generated then supply and demand dictates. Comparing a top woman with a conference player is a tad insulting (to both groups) - two entirely different categories.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 25, 2021 16:34:53 GMT 1
Surely this is a non story? The more people who watch and enjoy women's football will see the financial rewards rise? It's not like horse racing where men and women compete equally. The rewards will find their level as interest increases. There's no reason why women's football shouldn't be enjoyed. To compare with different levels of men's football is surely pointless? Is a top woman footballer worth less than a male? Technically no, but until the interest is at the same level and the same revenue levels are generated then supply and demand dictates. Comparing a top woman with a conference player is a tad insulting (to both groups) - two entirely different categories. didn't the USA womens team play a friendly against a Dallas under 15's boys team and get battered? Yes they did. |
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Post by impact on Mar 25, 2021 16:40:30 GMT 1
I may be incorrect, in which case my apologies, but isn't her quest for equal pay limited to the monies received for playing for the national team? In this scenario, for USA at least, the argument makes much more sense, given the female national team garners more viewers than the male national team who rarely qualify for national tournaments. If they bring in more money they deserve higher salaries. I don't know the split so I can't really comment there, but I do know the men's finals bring in much higher revenue and have a much higher prize pool. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 16:46:45 GMT 1
Considering she has more caps than appearences you may be right. However, the Womens USA team will not generate a tenth of the mens for certain....simply not possible. Multi-millionairess who does not really work wanting a bleat about nothing. If I were an American marketing man, and I had to pick one of my nation's teams to sell out a stadium - given what I know about the state of the U.S. soccer market - it'd be the women's team every time. worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/Considering they (USA women) average 5 homes games a year they aint got $5 mill salaries for women. They throw money at sport so they are the best....not for much longer though. I note your point but it is not really one. She plays 5 times a year for Seattle....in front of a couple of thousand. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Mar 25, 2021 17:54:46 GMT 1
I'm not posting very often now, but why is this poisonous twat suddenly appearing in the football forum - I thought his milieu was the politic forum where he can share his misanthropic inanity with those who vote to view it. Get shut. Abuse. Reported |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Mar 25, 2021 18:00:07 GMT 1
A mate of mine has just texted me to say that Man Utd women have announced season ticket prices for 2021/22... at the astonishing price of £39 for the whole season. Can this really be true?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 25, 2021 18:29:25 GMT 1
A mate of mine has just texted me to say that Man Utd women have announced season ticket prices for 2021/22... at the astonishing price of £39 for the whole season. Can this really be true? If you look at the crowds for the women's PL, the top teams only get a couple of thousand watching with the odd few exceptions, so they probably think its a fair price based on the interest. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Mar 25, 2021 18:32:25 GMT 1
A mate of mine has just texted me to say that Man Utd women have announced season ticket prices for 2021/22... at the astonishing price of £39 for the whole season. Can this really be true? If you look at the crowds for the women's PL, the top teams only get a couple of thousand watching with the odd few exceptions, so they probably think its a fair price based on the interest. Wow, that's amazing... why is it such a big deal on Sky right now then? I thought they must be getting 15-20K each game. In that case, Oti's original post is valid |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 25, 2021 18:35:22 GMT 1
If you look at the crowds for the women's PL, the top teams only get a couple of thousand watching with the odd few exceptions, so they probably think its a fair price based on the interest. Wow, that's amazing... why is it such a big deal on Sky right now then? I thought they must be getting 15-20K each game. In that case, Oti's original post is valid The same reeason they have so many women presenters/pundits on men's sport.....political correctness. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 25, 2021 18:37:37 GMT 1
If you look at the crowds for the women's PL, the top teams only get a couple of thousand watching with the odd few exceptions, so they probably think its a fair price based on the interest. Wow, that's amazing... why is it such a big deal on Sky right now then? I thought they must be getting 15-20K each game. In that case, Oti's original post is valid It’s a big deal on Sky and BBC. If you visit the National Football Museum in Manchester, a whole floor is dedicated to Women’s football. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 25, 2021 18:37:58 GMT 1
I think they should get the same pay. They defend just like our lot
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Mar 25, 2021 18:45:38 GMT 1
I've watched bits of women's football games & they are quite skilful, however, there are few tackles & the goalies are awful. I cannot seem to watch a whole game & I have tried.
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Post by snoopy on Mar 25, 2021 19:03:08 GMT 1
If you read further up on this you will find that the women’s and men’s team were offered 2 contracts, a salary based or performance based. The women opted for salary to guarantee income, little did they know how successful they would be and how much that would be. The men opted for performance based. The women unhappy they could have made more money have tried to take the ussf (the USA version of the FA) to court to for the money they missed out on for not going with the performance based contract... it was quickly dismissed from court. www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2020/05/04/judge-dismisses-us-womens-soccer-equal-pay-case---heres-why/ |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 25, 2021 19:03:26 GMT 1
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 19:44:27 GMT 1
I'm not posting very often now, but why is this poisonous twat suddenly appearing in the football forum - I thought his milieu was the politic forum where he can share his misanthropic inanity with those who vote to view it. Get shut. Can I politely suggest that in future you don't click on a thread created by a poster who you view with such disdain. Some of us quite like to see the sometimes controversial views of the said poster, whether those be football related or otherwise. I'm surprised that you haven't blocked him before now Might get my own Youtube channel...and invite Farage  |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 19:46:32 GMT 1
Surely this is a non story? The more people who watch and enjoy women's football will see the financial rewards rise? It's not like horse racing where men and women compete equally. The rewards will find their level as interest increases. There's no reason why women's football shouldn't be enjoyed. To compare with different levels of men's football is surely pointless? Is a top woman footballer worth less than a male? Technically no, but until the interest is at the same level and the same revenue levels are generated then supply and demand dictates. Comparing a top woman with a conference player is a tad insulting (to both groups) - two entirely different categories. didn't the USA womens team play a friendly against a Dallas under 15's boys team and get battered? Yes they did. Deffo worth more than her $1 million a year. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4389760/USA-women-s-team-suffer-5-2-loss-FC-Dallas-U-15-boys.html |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 19:47:30 GMT 1
A mate of mine has just texted me to say that Man Utd women have announced season ticket prices for 2021/22... at the astonishing price of £39 for the whole season. Can this really be true? Of course...womens world cup tickets were £3....no-one is interested except family and friends. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 25, 2021 19:52:25 GMT 1
If you look at the crowds for the women's PL, the top teams only get a couple of thousand watching with the odd few exceptions, so they probably think its a fair price based on the interest. Wow, that's amazing... why is it such a big deal on Sky right now then? I thought they must be getting 15-20K each game. In that case, Oti's original post is valid Quotas and PC nonsense, The BBC football homepage makes sure it has at least one womens fotball story on it every single day. 5 years ago games were not on telly and women did not commentate, they are going out of their way to foist perceived womens issues on football fans. Same with the kneeling, pride laces, Kick it Out and all the other snowflake causes. More guilt, more brain-washing. |
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