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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 19, 2021 7:52:29 GMT 1
If he’s not been able to train and run properly for 10 days due to having covid then it’s hardly a shock that he couldn’t complete 90 mins in a elite sporting event against opposing professionals who are in peak fitness. Ruffles wasn’t even fit enough for the bench for instance. We saw Koroma cramp up twice and he’s not missed training
If they didn’t want to risk him getting injured he wouldn’t have played full stop. Instead I think he was only fit to play a shorter time while he builds back up his fitness
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 19, 2021 8:17:32 GMT 1
Did I hear Oggy say he had been told by someone very reliable that Sheff Weds was his last game for Town "yet here he is tonight" or something along those lines? I didn't quite catch what he said. I am starting to think Oggy has lost the plot some of his statements are quite ridiculous (I don’t think he has any more information about what is happening behind the scenes than anyone else)he also IMO needs to take off those Blue and White tinted glasses,At least Glennon tells it as it is
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 19, 2021 8:37:17 GMT 1
Did I hear Oggy say he had been told by someone very reliable that Sheff Weds was his last game for Town "yet here he is tonight" or something along those lines? I didn't quite catch what he said. I am starting to think Oggy has lost the plot some of his statements are quite ridiculous (I don’t think he has any more information about what is happening behind the scenes than anyone else)he also IMO needs to take off those Blue and White tinted glasses,At least Glennon tells it as it is Yeah I really enjoy listening to Glennon, no nonsense and a bit of humour too. I do like Oggy but I agree, he often tries to gloss over the performances and problems.
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Post by durhamterrier on Aug 19, 2021 8:46:28 GMT 1
It’s obvious the lad wants a move to the prem and I’m not going to blame him . We’re not in a position where we can freeze him out because he’s a good player, gives his all and our squad depth is really weak.
The only thing I hope is we give any suitors a cut off date , giving us time to adequately replace.
I’d also tell him to sack off his agent , Kevin Sharp , but primarily because I think he’s a right ball bag ever since he was a shite left back for us under Mick Wadsworth
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 19, 2021 9:06:00 GMT 1
I can't believe why anyone would question O'Brien about his commitment & why he signalled to come off. If he hadn't wanted to play it would have been easy for him to say "Sorry boss, still very weak from the Covid", he was obviously told to play as long as he could, give it his all & let us know when you feel you can't give any more - the last thing we would want is a long term injury due to him overdoing it.
I think we owe him a massive debt of gratitude for playing, there are plenty of recent big earners, being paid far more than him, who you know would never have played in that game.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 19, 2021 9:32:55 GMT 1
Did I hear Oggy say he had been told by someone very reliable that Sheff Weds was his last game for Town "yet here he is tonight" or something along those lines? I didn't quite catch what he said. I am starting to think Oggy has lost the plot some of his statements are quite ridiculous (I don’t think he has any more information about what is happening behind the scenes than anyone else)he also IMO needs to take off those Blue and White tinted glasses, At least Glennon tells it as it is At least Glennon talks a load of shite you mean. Schofield was his number one this season over Nichols and that was from an ex-goalkeeper.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 19, 2021 9:39:38 GMT 1
Good luck for the future Lewis. He's now in talks Are these talks being done via 2nd class post?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 9:57:00 GMT 1
Good luck for the future Lewis. He's now in talks Are these talks being done via 2nd class post? No via a lame pidgeon!
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 19, 2021 10:44:11 GMT 1
Are these talks being done via 2nd class post? No via a lame pidgeon! He’s waiting for Seth Johnson’s agent to turn up …
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Post by keefer on Aug 19, 2021 11:22:13 GMT 1
Are these talks being done via 2nd class post? No via a lame pidgeon! Speckled Jim?
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Post by hthtafs on Aug 19, 2021 11:34:27 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration?
Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week.
Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ??
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 19, 2021 11:45:55 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? I don't see any reason to believe that we're reliant upon a LoB transfer to keep afloat, although I expect a lot of the fee will get swallowed up with CGT, repayments to creditors & day to day running of the club. He wasn't one of the players that we were looking to sell at the start of the summer.
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2021 11:47:37 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? No
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Aug 19, 2021 11:50:44 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Not even close. We’re all good
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 19, 2021 11:53:32 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? 🚨 Leeds WUM alert 🚨
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 19, 2021 12:02:08 GMT 1
I am starting to think Oggy has lost the plot some of his statements are quite ridiculous (I don’t think he has any more information about what is happening behind the scenes than anyone else)he also IMO needs to take off those Blue and White tinted glasses, At least Glennon tells it as it is At least Glennon talks a load of shite you mean. Schofield was his number one this season over Nichols and that was from an ex-goalkeeper. Wow
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 19, 2021 12:05:56 GMT 1
Did I hear Oggy say he had been told by someone very reliable that Sheff Weds was his last game for Town "yet here he is tonight" or something along those lines? I didn't quite catch what he said. I took it to be reference to people who claim to be ITK. People speaking with confidence that had no basis. Personally I won't believe anything until I see it from a highly respected source like townrwe's news networks.
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Post by aca00js on Aug 19, 2021 12:18:03 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? I believe the only person who can put us into administration is Dean and he isn't going to do that. If we can't afford the full repayment amount it will just mean it will take longer to pay him off. I doubt the repayment plan is very strict and will be flexible depending on how the club is doing.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 19, 2021 12:23:57 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Breach FFP. Ha, ha, ha. Selling players like it’s a market stall, wages going down faster than a popped balloon, but watch out we might breach those spending limits.
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Post by cheesecake on Aug 19, 2021 12:31:09 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? We? fuck off leeds
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2021 12:38:33 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? We? fuck off leeds Suppose they've got to keep themselves entertained when they keep getting their arses handed to them in their cup final 🤣
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Post by Kenny irons on Aug 19, 2021 13:00:33 GMT 1
Good luck for the future Lewis. He's now in talks Are these talks being done via 2nd class post? He doesn't want Palace he wants to go to Leeds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 13:06:18 GMT 1
Are these talks being done via 2nd class post? He doesn't want Palace he wants to go to Leeds. That's true but Leeds are not coming up with the asking price that must be obvious so he will stay here unless they do but things can change regarding any club I'm sure Maynard blue will agree it's not at the end stage yet
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Post by alexdire on Aug 19, 2021 13:59:24 GMT 1
This is from Duckworth's press conference reported on the BBC: On whether Leeds fans can expect any further signings, Marcelo Bielsa said:
"It's not probable that any more signings will be made. I'm happy with the players I can count on at the moment. It's the same group as last season with the substitution of Firpo for Alioski.
“The young players who accompany the team have another year of experience. If we have the option to bring another player in we will do it has long as that player is able to challenge the player who already has that position.
“Signings that strengthen the team means a player has to compete with players who already have a position. That means there's a very high cost to these.
“With regards to this situation, if players don't arrive there's disappointment that they don't arrive." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58265901/page/2
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 19, 2021 14:22:36 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Since Hodgkinson took over he has reduced the wage bill to around about the promotion season figure. (as per his interview with Oggy) He has brought in 21 players on permanent deals of which 13 were free transfers and made 11 loan signings. Transfer fees paid is around £14m, which £11m of that was for Mbenza. This is what Chicken wrote back in June Town’s wages for all staff and players in 2019/20 totalled £26.5m, less than half the £55.5m paid in the second Premier League season.
That is again not unexpected, though our data journalist David Dubas-Fisher notes that means that Town spent just 57% of their revenues on wages – the lowest percentage in the Championship based on each club’s most recent set of accounts, and less than half the divisional average of 121%.
However, that's partly because Town’s revenue is also much higher than many of their divisional rivals because of parachute payments. In real teams, Town’s wage bill was about average for the Championship.
Many clubs will have reduced their wage budgets for 2020/21 and presumably yet more will do so again for 2021/22. Still, for a newly-relegated club to have trimmed their wage bill by quite that amount is slightly unusual. That's not necessarily a bad thing for their long-term health, but it surely will have impacted their performance on the pitch in a relegation-threatened 2019/20 campaign.
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 19, 2021 15:00:20 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Since Hodgkinson took over he has reduced the wage bill to around about the promotion season figure. (as per his interview with Oggy) He has brought in 21 players on permanent deals of which 13 were free transfers and made 11 loan signings. Transfer fees paid is around £14m, which £11m of that was for Mbenza. This is what Chicken wrote back in June Town’s wages for all staff and players in 2019/20 totalled £26.5m, less than half the £55.5m paid in the second Premier League season.
That is again not unexpected, though our data journalist David Dubas-Fisher notes that means that Town spent just 57% of their revenues on wages – the lowest percentage in the Championship based on each club’s most recent set of accounts, and less than half the divisional average of 121%.
However, that's partly because Town’s revenue is also much higher than many of their divisional rivals because of parachute payments. In real teams, Town’s wage bill was about average for the Championship.
Many clubs will have reduced their wage budgets for 2020/21 and presumably yet more will do so again for 2021/22. Still, for a newly-relegated club to have trimmed their wage bill by quite that amount is slightly unusual. That's not necessarily a bad thing for their long-term health, but it surely will have impacted their performance on the pitch in a relegation-threatened 2019/20 campaign. Are you buying the players used for the "Our Best Team" thread? sorry I couldn't resist.. it's been a long day at work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 15:45:26 GMT 1
This is from Duckworth's press conference reported on the BBC: On whether Leeds fans can expect any further signings, Marcelo Bielsa said:
"It's not probable that any more signings will be made. I'm happy with the players I can count on at the moment. It's the same group as last season with the substitution of Firpo for Alioski.
“The young players who accompany the team have another year of experience. If we have the option to bring another player in we will do it has long as that player is able to challenge the player who already has that position.
“Signings that strengthen the team means a player has to compete with players who already have a position. That means there's a very high cost to these.
“With regards to this situation, if players don't arrive there's disappointment that they don't arrive." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58265901/page/2I certainly think Leeds interest is receding on o brian if they aren't prepared to pay Maynard may know more but it's dragged on a while now but we will see
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 19, 2021 15:50:10 GMT 1
Since Hodgkinson took over he has reduced the wage bill to around about the promotion season figure. (as per his interview with Oggy) He has brought in 21 players on permanent deals of which 13 were free transfers and made 11 loan signings. Transfer fees paid is around £14m, which £11m of that was for Mbenza. This is what Chicken wrote back in June Town’s wages for all staff and players in 2019/20 totalled £26.5m, less than half the £55.5m paid in the second Premier League season.
That is again not unexpected, though our data journalist David Dubas-Fisher notes that means that Town spent just 57% of their revenues on wages – the lowest percentage in the Championship based on each club’s most recent set of accounts, and less than half the divisional average of 121%.
However, that's partly because Town’s revenue is also much higher than many of their divisional rivals because of parachute payments. In real teams, Town’s wage bill was about average for the Championship.
Many clubs will have reduced their wage budgets for 2020/21 and presumably yet more will do so again for 2021/22. Still, for a newly-relegated club to have trimmed their wage bill by quite that amount is slightly unusual. That's not necessarily a bad thing for their long-term health, but it surely will have impacted their performance on the pitch in a relegation-threatened 2019/20 campaign. Are you buying the players used for the "Our Best Team" thread? sorry I couldn't resist.. it's been a long day at work.
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 19, 2021 16:22:39 GMT 1
This is from Duckworth's press conference reported on the BBC: On whether Leeds fans can expect any further signings, Marcelo Bielsa said:
"It's not probable that any more signings will be made. I'm happy with the players I can count on at the moment. It's the same group as last season with the substitution of Firpo for Alioski.
“The young players who accompany the team have another year of experience. If we have the option to bring another player in we will do it has long as that player is able to challenge the player who already has that position.
“Signings that strengthen the team means a player has to compete with players who already have a position. That means there's a very high cost to these.
“With regards to this situation, if players don't arrive there's disappointment that they don't arrive." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58265901/page/2I certainly think Leeds interest is receding on o brian if they aren't prepared to pay Maynard may know more but it's dragged on a while now but we will see From what I hear it's more to do with the structure of the deal now. The overall figure seems to be acceptable
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Post by boooothy on Aug 19, 2021 16:30:41 GMT 1
I’m probably reading too much into it but our transfer deals seem very strange and hard to get over the line since Phil took over. Grant over 7 years, Holmes on a free but not really a free
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