Melc
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Post by Melc on Aug 19, 2021 16:48:20 GMT 1
I certainly think Leeds interest is receding on o brian if they aren't prepared to pay Maynard may know more but it's dragged on a while now but we will see From what I hear it's more to do with the structure of the deal now. The overall figure seems to be acceptable Any further progress in moving Mbenza out Maynard? |
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Post by hthtafs on Aug 19, 2021 16:51:05 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Since Hodgkinson took over he has reduced the wage bill to around about the promotion season figure. (as per his interview with Oggy) He has brought in 21 players on permanent deals of which 13 were free transfers and made 11 loan signings. Transfer fees paid is around £14m, which £11m of that was for Mbenza. This is what Chicken wrote back in June Town’s wages for all staff and players in 2019/20 totalled £26.5m, less than half the £55.5m paid in the second Premier League season.
That is again not unexpected, though our data journalist David Dubas-Fisher notes that means that Town spent just 57% of their revenues on wages – the lowest percentage in the Championship based on each club’s most recent set of accounts, and less than half the divisional average of 121%.
However, that's partly because Town’s revenue is also much higher than many of their divisional rivals because of parachute payments. In real teams, Town’s wage bill was about average for the Championship.
Many clubs will have reduced their wage budgets for 2020/21 and presumably yet more will do so again for 2021/22. Still, for a newly-relegated club to have trimmed their wage bill by quite that amount is slightly unusual. That's not necessarily a bad thing for their long-term health, but it surely will have impacted their performance on the pitch in a relegation-threatened 2019/20 campaign. Thanks for that however if wages are scirca £20m with only £10m revenue ex TV (which is earmarked for Hoyle) it looks like there will be a £15m + loss without player sales.? Presumably last years loss was more than the £8.2m loss reported 19/20 |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 19, 2021 17:25:51 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Its even possible the world will end. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 19, 2021 17:34:53 GMT 1
Question for those closer to the finances - if LOB doesn’t move are we in danger of going into administration? Ignoring the fact that £10m cash is scheduled to go to DH next week. Revenue this season is likely to be less than £10m with wages & other running costs likely to be £30m. Without a good £5m from the sale of LOB we will most likely breach FFP even if PH puts in £15m. Moreover is there a danger we go bust ?? Its even possible the world will end. Imagine the Dean Hoyle Thread if that happened! |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 19, 2021 17:47:33 GMT 1
From what I hear it's more to do with the structure of the deal now. The overall figure seems to be acceptable Any further progress in moving Mbenza out Maynard? Not in the last 48 hours that I know of |
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 19, 2021 17:50:34 GMT 1
Since Hodgkinson took over he has reduced the wage bill to around about the promotion season figure. (as per his interview with Oggy) He has brought in 21 players on permanent deals of which 13 were free transfers and made 11 loan signings. Transfer fees paid is around £14m, which £11m of that was for Mbenza. This is what Chicken wrote back in June Town’s wages for all staff and players in 2019/20 totalled £26.5m, less than half the £55.5m paid in the second Premier League season.
That is again not unexpected, though our data journalist David Dubas-Fisher notes that means that Town spent just 57% of their revenues on wages – the lowest percentage in the Championship based on each club’s most recent set of accounts, and less than half the divisional average of 121%.
However, that's partly because Town’s revenue is also much higher than many of their divisional rivals because of parachute payments. In real teams, Town’s wage bill was about average for the Championship.
Many clubs will have reduced their wage budgets for 2020/21 and presumably yet more will do so again for 2021/22. Still, for a newly-relegated club to have trimmed their wage bill by quite that amount is slightly unusual. That's not necessarily a bad thing for their long-term health, but it surely will have impacted their performance on the pitch in a relegation-threatened 2019/20 campaign. Thanks for that however if wages are scirca £20m with only £10m revenue ex TV (which is earmarked for Hoyle) it looks like there will be a £15m + loss without player sales.? Presumably last years loss was more than the £8.2m loss reported 19/20 Installments for X amount of years from the fees for Grant, Billing and whoever else we have sold will also be incoming. At the end of the day its up to the pair that set up this deal in the first place, they need to sort it out. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 19, 2021 18:24:35 GMT 1
Since Hodgkinson took over he has reduced the wage bill to around about the promotion season figure. (as per his interview with Oggy) He has brought in 21 players on permanent deals of which 13 were free transfers and made 11 loan signings. Transfer fees paid is around £14m, which £11m of that was for Mbenza. This is what Chicken wrote back in June Town’s wages for all staff and players in 2019/20 totalled £26.5m, less than half the £55.5m paid in the second Premier League season.
That is again not unexpected, though our data journalist David Dubas-Fisher notes that means that Town spent just 57% of their revenues on wages – the lowest percentage in the Championship based on each club’s most recent set of accounts, and less than half the divisional average of 121%.
However, that's partly because Town’s revenue is also much higher than many of their divisional rivals because of parachute payments. In real teams, Town’s wage bill was about average for the Championship.
Many clubs will have reduced their wage budgets for 2020/21 and presumably yet more will do so again for 2021/22. Still, for a newly-relegated club to have trimmed their wage bill by quite that amount is slightly unusual. That's not necessarily a bad thing for their long-term health, but it surely will have impacted their performance on the pitch in a relegation-threatened 2019/20 campaign. Thanks for that however if wages are scirca £20m with only £10m revenue ex TV (which is earmarked for Hoyle) it looks like there will be a £15m + loss without player sales.? Presumably last years loss was more than the £8.2m loss reported 19/20 Repaying DH has nowt to-do with profit and loss |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2021 18:42:41 GMT 1
This is from Duckworth's press conference reported on the BBC: On whether Leeds fans can expect any further signings, Marcelo Bielsa said:
"It's not probable that any more signings will be made. I'm happy with the players I can count on at the moment. It's the same group as last season with the substitution of Firpo for Alioski.
“The young players who accompany the team have another year of experience. If we have the option to bring another player in we will do it has long as that player is able to challenge the player who already has that position.
“Signings that strengthen the team means a player has to compete with players who already have a position. That means there's a very high cost to these.
“With regards to this situation, if players don't arrive there's disappointment that they don't arrive."
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58265901/page/2Some great replies, chesties talking about getting relegated this season 🤞🤞🤞 |
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Post by cyberman on Aug 19, 2021 19:04:49 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ?
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Post by Melc on Aug 19, 2021 19:06:38 GMT 1
Any further progress in moving Mbenza out Maynard? Not in the last 48 hours that I know of Thanks for update, much appreciated. |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 19, 2021 19:31:14 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ? No thanks for Poveda. Every time I’ve seen him he runs about a lot but contributes nothing. We’ve just offloaded one tosspot who did that today 😂 |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2021 19:35:48 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ? No thanks for Poveda. Every time I’ve seen him he runs about a lot but contributes nothing. We’ve just offloaded one tosspot who did that today 😂 That sounds like he'd be identical to O'Brien then |
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Post by alexdire on Aug 19, 2021 21:10:44 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ? What's Dean Hoyle going to do with Poveda? 🤔 |
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Post by alexdire on Aug 19, 2021 21:12:26 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ? No thanks for Poveda. Every time I’ve seen him he runs about a lot but contributes nothing. We’ve just offloaded one tosspot who did that today 😂 If he runs around a lot. You lot will love him. He'll fit right into out current midfield. |
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Post by detox on Aug 19, 2021 21:42:22 GMT 1
All bullshit from Bielsa, just sending us a message they can do without O'brien...
As for going into administration... Well that would blow Dean out wouldn't it
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Post by leroy212 on Aug 19, 2021 21:46:32 GMT 1
All bullshit from Bielsa, just sending us a message they can do without O'brien... As for going into administration... Well that would blow Dean out wouldn't it Have I missed something? Administration |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 20, 2021 8:41:08 GMT 1
All bullshit from Bielsa, just sending us a message they can do without O'brien... As for going into administration... Well that would blow Dean out wouldn't it Have I missed something? Administration Leeds WUM hthtafs stirring. |
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Post by alexdire on Aug 20, 2021 10:21:33 GMT 1
All bullshit from Bielsa, just sending us a message they can do without O'brien... As for going into administration... Well that would blow Dean out wouldn't it Have I missed something? Administration Nothing of any importance |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 20, 2021 10:27:40 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ? What's Dean Hoyle going to do with Poveda? 🤔 Pool boy? |
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Post by dm on Aug 20, 2021 10:36:04 GMT 1
7M + ADD ONS + Poveda coming the other way ? - would that work ? No thanks for Poveda. Every time I’ve seen him he runs about a lot but contributes nothing. We’ve just offloaded one tosspot who did that today 😂 100% this. Smaller than Alex Pritchard and possibly even less effective(!) Loads of hype cos of all the top academies he's been at but that means nothing. Demeaco Duhaney came from Man City's academy and he was absolutely atrocious every single time I saw him. |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 20, 2021 10:51:25 GMT 1
No thanks for Poveda. Every time I’ve seen him he runs about a lot but contributes nothing. We’ve just offloaded one tosspot who did that today 😂 100% this. Smaller than Alex Pritchard and possibly even less effective(!) Loads of hype cos of all the top academies he's been at but that means nothing. Demeaco Duhaney came from Man City's academy and he was absolutely atrocious every single time I saw him. Not sure that's possible surely  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 12:21:42 GMT 1
No thanks for Poveda. Every time I’ve seen him he runs about a lot but contributes nothing. We’ve just offloaded one tosspot who did that today 😂 100% this. Smaller than Alex Pritchard and possibly even less effective(!) Loads of hype cos of all the top academies he's been at but that means nothing. Demeaco Duhaney came from Man City's academy and he was absolutely atrocious every single time I saw him. Where has DD ended up? |
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Post by incognito on Aug 20, 2021 12:24:26 GMT 1
100% this. Smaller than Alex Pritchard and possibly even less effective(!) Loads of hype cos of all the top academies he's been at but that means nothing. Demeaco Duhaney came from Man City's academy and he was absolutely atrocious every single time I saw him. Where has DD ended up? A few trials, most recently at Stoke I think. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 20, 2021 18:11:35 GMT 1
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 20, 2021 18:43:53 GMT 1
Good glad we’re not been made fools of, fuck them. |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 20, 2021 18:54:00 GMT 1
Well done Phil 👏👏👏
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Aug 20, 2021 19:13:28 GMT 1
An amazing move not to sell a player which meant we could bring some better ones in.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Aug 20, 2021 19:16:13 GMT 1
An amazing move not to sell a player which meant we could bring some better ones in. I suggest you are out of tune with others on this thread. |
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Post by crux on Aug 20, 2021 19:18:10 GMT 1
An amazing move not to sell a player which meant we could bring some better ones in. Rule 1. Never believe anything written in the papers about football, especially regarding transfers. |
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Post by Dan on Aug 20, 2021 19:19:42 GMT 1
An amazing move not to sell a player which meant we could bring some better ones in. Yet you'd have been foaming at the gob had we sold for £5 million |
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