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Post by merseysideterrier on May 10, 2021 13:24:49 GMT 1
We’re really not. There are social media channels dedicated to this stuff. It may be dry (for some) but understanding changes the perspective and ultimately expectations. Most folk on here may not be so shouty ragey if they took the time to understand.... Ok my apologies, which twitter accounts are dedicated to VAT costs on player sales? I'd recommend listening to The Price of Football podcast and/or getting the book. Excellent discussion of football financials and helps to put things in perspective. Kieran McGuire (the accountant who works on PoF) has a good Twitter account and is active in responding to questions, SwissRamble is also good on Twitter, especially for deep dives into club accounts and continental European football. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 10, 2021 13:50:17 GMT 1
Ok my apologies, which twitter accounts are dedicated to VAT costs on player sales? I'd recommend listening to The Price of Football podcast and/or getting the book. Excellent discussion of football financials and helps to put things in perspective. Kieran McGuire (the accountant who works on PoF) has a good Twitter account and is active in responding to questions, SwissRamble is also good on Twitter, especially for deep dives into club accounts and continental European football. Thanks mate, I agree they’re both great accounts and really interesting. But talking about VAT on player sales is even a stretch for them as per this tweet here. So my point still stands, it’s an odd niche that Phil has woven into conversation. |
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Post by merseysideterrier on May 10, 2021 14:00:54 GMT 1
I'd recommend listening to The Price of Football podcast and/or getting the book. Excellent discussion of football financials and helps to put things in perspective. Kieran McGuire (the accountant who works on PoF) has a good Twitter account and is active in responding to questions, SwissRamble is also good on Twitter, especially for deep dives into club accounts and continental European football. Thanks mate, I agree they’re both great accounts and really interesting. But talking about VAT on player sales is even a stretch for them as per this tweet here. So my point still stands, it’s an odd niche that Phil has woven into conversation. Definitely, even accountants find VAT a bore. Problem is, it still has to be considered even if we don't like it. I completely agree that it's not the most riveting aspect of football though. |
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Post by bluestripe on May 10, 2021 18:27:53 GMT 1
Thanks mate, I agree they’re both great accounts and really interesting. But talking about VAT on player sales is even a stretch for them as per this tweet here. So my point still stands, it’s an odd niche that Phil has woven into conversation. Definitely, even accountants find VAT a bore. Problem is, it still has to be considered even if we don't like it. I completely agree that it's not the most riveting aspect of football though. We have low expectations on what constitutes the riveting aspects of football after Town's turgid football in the second half of the season. Is the VAT payment in the quarter the player is sold or when the cash is received? I've got a semi just thinking through the treatment rules. Ooooohhhh! |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 12, 2021 16:42:32 GMT 1
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on May 26, 2021 18:01:39 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 30, 2021 13:06:20 GMT 1
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 30, 2021 13:11:05 GMT 1
Sounds like Weeds want him as a bench sitter not an immediate starter ! |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 30, 2021 13:32:09 GMT 1
Of course he’s for sale. We’d sell the turf from our pitch if we thought we could buy 3 tonne of grass seed on the cheap to replace it.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Jul 30, 2021 13:36:29 GMT 1
O’Brien to leeds and Shackleton to town on a season long loan?
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 30, 2021 13:37:03 GMT 1
TBF, everyone is for sale at every club. It's the price (and who replaces any outgoing players) that concerns me.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 30, 2021 13:42:46 GMT 1
I'm not sure how I feel about this as far as football is concerned. We all know we're a selling club, as that's all we've been doing for the last 3 years with minimal investment back into the side.
Selling LOB to L..ds would be a slap in the face to every town fan imo.
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Post by Melc on Jul 30, 2021 13:47:09 GMT 1
I'm not sure how I feel about this as far as football is concerned. We all know we're a selling club, as that's all we've been doing for the last 3 years with minimal investment back into the side. Selling LOB to L..ds would be a slap in the face to every town fan imo. We had a bigger slap in the face from Dean Hoyle! |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 30, 2021 14:28:41 GMT 1
Sounds like Weeds want him as a bench sitter not an immediate starter ! How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 30, 2021 14:46:07 GMT 1
Sounds like Weeds want him as a bench sitter not an immediate starter ! How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth Think what we will need to spend to get someone in to improve the team after a large slice is taken away for paying Dean back. We would need a minimum of £6 mill or the team will be even weaker in midfield. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 30, 2021 14:48:33 GMT 1
Doesn’t sit well with me this, can’t fathom selling our best player to that mob for peanuts.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Jul 30, 2021 17:22:23 GMT 1
Do we know if LOB has pushed for a move in any way? Theres been a lot of interest or is that his agent touting it? Agreed every asset has a price. Rival or not, I don't see us playing Leeds for many years. So wouldn't bother me so much. Just have a courteous rival mark up fee.  |
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Post by terriers321 on Jul 30, 2021 17:31:43 GMT 1
With all due respect to OBrien, I dont see why Leeds would want him. He surely wouldn't play.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jul 30, 2021 17:40:31 GMT 1
With all due respect to OBrien, I dont see why Leeds would want him. He surely wouldn't play. Buy and loan back for the season? |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 30, 2021 17:44:53 GMT 1
TBF, everyone is for sale at every club. It's the price (and who replaces any outgoing players) that concerns me. What’s the price? |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jul 30, 2021 17:45:59 GMT 1
Sounds like Weeds want him as a bench sitter not an immediate starter ! How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth Can’t be selling young English players cheap. He needs to be going for a big, big fee, especially if it’s to Leeds. Would be a good chance to rebuild that midfield (if we spent the money). Him and Hogg are both decent players, but they don’t seem to complement each other. |
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Post by stable on Jul 30, 2021 17:48:30 GMT 1
How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth Can’t be selling young English players cheap. He needs to be going for a big, big fee, especially if it’s to Leeds. Would be a good chance to rebuild that midfield (if we spent the money). Him and Hogg are both decent players, but they don’t seem to complement each other. That is a very good point |
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Post by willo on Jul 30, 2021 17:52:56 GMT 1
Sounds like Weeds want him as a bench sitter not an immediate starter ! How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth 🤫 you fool, they might be watching 😉 |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 30, 2021 18:03:29 GMT 1
How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth 🤫 you fool, they might be watching 😉 Shit Yeah, sorry. We can't possibly sell the Colchester De Bruyne unless it's to a Champions League contender(OK? 😉) |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 30, 2021 18:09:55 GMT 1
TBF, everyone is for sale at every club. It's the price (and who replaces any outgoing players) that concerns me. What’s the price? I don't know. Nor do I know who the replacement is. I can see how my post was ambiguous. What I mean is that whether or not this is a good deal depends how much we get for him & who the replacement is. I'm not saying that the club have done right or wrong because I don't know. |
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Post by sykeylad on Jul 30, 2021 18:39:28 GMT 1
Cant you just assume it's a poor price and the replacement is no good and will never be any good? Then ask where all the money went and why the coffee is awful?
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Post by Town1971 on Jul 30, 2021 19:36:54 GMT 1
LOB for me is inconsistent and not overly bothered if he leaves but we need two things.1 a decent fee and 2 a solid proven replacement already lined up.
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Post by terriers321 on Jul 30, 2021 19:48:14 GMT 1
How the hell would he get in their team anyway 🤔. And £6m was mentioned earlier, that's more than double what he's worth Can’t be selling young English players cheap. He needs to be going for a big, big fee, especially if it’s to Leeds. Would be a good chance to rebuild that midfield (if we spent the money). Him and Hogg are both decent players, but they don’t seem to complement each other. If we spent the money. That's a good one. |
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Post by terrier2019 on Jul 30, 2021 20:04:08 GMT 1
Can’t be selling young English players cheap. He needs to be going for a big, big fee, especially if it’s to Leeds. Would be a good chance to rebuild that midfield (if we spent the money). Him and Hogg are both decent players, but they don’t seem to complement each other. If we spent the money. That's a good one. [a big if though isnt it cuz last few years every player sold asnt been replaced and the moneys vanished |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jul 30, 2021 20:15:58 GMT 1
Can’t be selling young English players cheap. He needs to be going for a big, big fee, especially if it’s to Leeds. Would be a good chance to rebuild that midfield (if we spent the money). Him and Hogg are both decent players, but they don’t seem to complement each other. If we spent the money. That's a good one. Well quite. But someday soon the club is going to end up in League One unless they realise money can also be spent as well as received. |
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