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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on May 7, 2021 13:27:17 GMT 1
According to the newspaper "O Dia" the negotiations have advanced, and Lázaro, from Flamengo, is close to getting it right with Huddersfield.
The club's idea is for a 1-year loan, with an option to purchase 60% of the economic rights for 3 million euros (about R $ 20 million)
The fact that Flamengo has a very qualified squad and full of outstanding players means that the club is not able to take advantage of players that are considered promises of the base category. This is the case of the attacking midfielder Lázaro, currently in the Under-20, but who is close to leaving Rubro-Negro to play in English football. Huddersfield showed interest in the jewel, advanced in the negotiation and is close to hiring him.
Huddersfield's interest in Lázaro is old and started in January, when the same English club tried to sign Lincoln, but at the time, the talks did not evolve. In recent weeks, representatives of the team competing for the Championship have called the agents of the attacking midfielder again, and the talks have heated up again.
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Post by ambryboy on May 7, 2021 14:13:34 GMT 1
"O Dia" seriously? Oh dear!
Yes I know it's probably straight up and translates to Today or similar but it made me wonder all the same.
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Post by goodbet on May 7, 2021 14:23:48 GMT 1
I stopped watching about 3 min in.
My thoughts were that the speed twins had better video clips that this guy's.
He looks good with the ball at his feet comfortable but due to his lack of first team goals we are watching junior or under ?? age games.
I an not sure on the clause "with an option to purchase 60% of the economic rights for 3 million euros". Remember the issues that West Ham got in to with Carlos Tevez, It dose not sound the same but we would not want to end up trouble for not following the rules.
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Post by dezzly on May 7, 2021 14:29:47 GMT 1
Think examiner has said while there is interest and definitely interest in that market that negotiations have not taken place as the article might state.still exciting to be linked all the same.
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Post by Dan on May 7, 2021 14:33:52 GMT 1
I stopped watching about 3 min in. My thoughts were that the speed twins had better video clips that this guy's. He looks good with the ball at his feet comfortable but due to his lack of first team goals we are watching junior or under ?? age games. I an not sure on the clause "with an option to purchase 60% of the economic rights for 3 million euros". Remember the issues that West Ham got in to with Carlos Tevez, It dose not sound the same but we would not want to end up trouble for not following the rules.
Fairly sure in saying that it will mean we own him outright, but that the selling club will receive 40% of any sale price (or maybe profit of any sale) |
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Post by rphyorks on May 7, 2021 15:02:40 GMT 1
he will only go into reverse when town get their hands on him, all this forward thinking is not our style at all.
can the lad pass backwards ?.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on May 7, 2021 15:27:36 GMT 1
I stopped watching about 3 min in. My thoughts were that the speed twins had better video clips that this guy's. He looks good with the ball at his feet comfortable but due to his lack of first team goals we are watching junior or under ?? age games. I an not sure on the clause "with an option to purchase 60% of the economic rights for 3 million euros". Remember the issues that West Ham got in to with Carlos Tevez, It dose not sound the same but we would not want to end up trouble for not following the rules.
Fairly sure in saying that it will mean we own him outright, but that the selling club will receive 40% of any sale price (or maybe profit of any sale) Yes pretty sure part ownership of a player is banned in the UK (but acceptable in some other leagues), so assume that's what they mean. Sounds pricier than I'd expect for us. |
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Post by terriers2000 on May 7, 2021 16:46:05 GMT 1
hopefully it ain't like the Lincoln saga hopefully this guy is a done deal like someone said on here that we have agreed on 4 players
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 7, 2021 17:49:43 GMT 1
Oh yeah, this is gonna end well.
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Post by dezzly on May 7, 2021 18:32:14 GMT 1
hopefully it ain't like the Lincoln saga hopefully this guy is a done deal like someone said on here that we have agreed on 4 players Like I said earlier examiner said as they are aware from club sources negotiations haven’t even started.Doesn’t mean to say not interested.Would hazard a guess the 4 already signed were ones to add depth to the squad in more of a backup sense. |
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Post by NumeroUno on May 7, 2021 19:33:10 GMT 1
Can we even bring this guy over considering the rules around visas and number of “points” required etc?
Should be the first thought when reviewing any rumour of international signings as that might write it off straight away.
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Post by dezzly on May 7, 2021 19:49:25 GMT 1
Can we even bring this guy over considering the rules around visas and number of “points” required etc? Should be the first thought when reviewing any rumour of international signings as that might write it off straight away. I believe it’s easier for South American’s to gain such points as they near enough get the full quota if just names in a squad for their version of the champions league. |
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Post by kennyk2 on May 7, 2021 19:53:11 GMT 1
According to the newspaper "O Dia" the negotiations have advanced, and Lázaro, from Flamengo, is close to getting it right with Huddersfield. The club's idea is for a 1-year loan, with an option to purchase 60% of the economic rights for 3 million euros (about R $ 20 million) The fact that Flamengo has a very qualified squad and full of outstanding players means that the club is not able to take advantage of players that are considered promises of the base category. This is the case of the attacking midfielder Lázaro, currently in the Under-20, but who is close to leaving Rubro-Negro to play in English football. Huddersfield showed interest in the jewel, advanced in the negotiation and is close to hiring him. Huddersfield's interest in Lázaro is old and started in January, when the same English club tried to sign Lincoln, but at the time, the talks did not evolve. In recent weeks, representatives of the team competing for the Championship have called the agents of the attacking midfielder again, and the talks have heated up again. A very strange thing happened. Watching this and listening to my varied and extremely cultured iTunes library, I discovered that, A Shot in the Dark by Henri Mancini is the perfect soundtrack to accompany this video clip. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 7, 2021 20:05:36 GMT 1
Maybe I’m missing something, but looking at that video, what’s the difference between this Lazaro guy and, say, the highly rated Diarra in the Town academy? Lazaro clearly has talent, but on the video is playing against youngsters, on academy (or equivalent in Brazil) pitches, with no fans. It might be easy to look like a real talent in that case, but so what? He runs around a lot, controlling the ball well but often just meandering about, not really going anywhere, or creating things. Reminds me of Bacuna.
I just don’t see it with this link. It doesn’t seem a good match for Town, in my opinion.
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Post by k1man999 on May 7, 2021 21:16:13 GMT 1
Maybe I’m missing something, but looking at that video, what’s the difference between this Lazaro guy and, say, the highly rated Diarra in the Town academy? Lazaro clearly has talent, but on the video is playing against youngsters, on academy (or equivalent in Brazil) pitches, with no fans. It might be easy to look like a real talent in that case, but so what? He runs around a lot, controlling the ball well but often just meandering about, not really going anywhere, or creating things. Reminds me of Bacuna. I just don’t see it with this link. It doesn’t seem a good match for Town, in my opinion. Agree we need a few players mid 20s with a bit of experience and knowhow of championship level football. All for getting in good promising players but need some experience and not the over the hill Keogh,elphik types. |
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Post by billy143 on May 7, 2021 21:25:16 GMT 1
Maybe I’m missing something, but looking at that video, what’s the difference between this Lazaro guy and, say, the highly rated Diarra in the Town academy? Lazaro clearly has talent, but on the video is playing against youngsters, on academy (or equivalent in Brazil) pitches, with no fans. It might be easy to look like a real talent in that case, but so what? He runs around a lot, controlling the ball well but often just meandering about, not really going anywhere, or creating things. Reminds me of Bacuna. I just don’t see it with this link. It doesn’t seem a good match for Town, in my opinion. I agree Diarra and Kamara are very talented youngsters. Give them a go at Reading, nowt to lose |
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Post by Mecha Corte on May 8, 2021 8:24:38 GMT 1
I’d like nothing better than in a year or so’s time to be back on here eating large portions of humble pie because he’s turned out to be a brilliant signing but 19 years old and from South America? Would doubt if it ends any better than when we took a punt on Zico, the Thai version of David Beckham.
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Post by dalesterrier on May 8, 2021 10:22:25 GMT 1
You'd have to think if we're looking at him, we're looking at others too. Bring at least a couple over so they aren't on their own 🤷
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Post by crux on May 8, 2021 10:33:58 GMT 1
You'd have to think if we're looking at him, we're looking at others too. Bring at least a couple over so they aren't on their own 🤷 The Town version of Ossie Ardiles and Ricky Villa 😂 |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 8, 2021 11:04:28 GMT 1
You’d need to treat this as a shot to nothing type signing, fantastic if it comes off but can’t rely on it. A teenager from Brazil moving to Huddersfield, no ties and expecting him to slot straight in.
But if we sign him he’d probably be the marquee signing and would take up a chunk of the budget. Far too risky.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 8, 2021 11:09:59 GMT 1
You’d need to treat this as a shot to nothing type signing, fantastic if it comes off but can’t rely on it. A teenager from Brazil moving to Huddersfield, no ties and expecting him to slot straight in. But if we sign him he’d probably be the marquee signing and would take up a chunk of the budget. Far too risky. Not if he's initially here on loan |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 8, 2021 11:18:04 GMT 1
Seems a clever workaround for Town. We couldn't get players from Brazil and others pre Brexit. However the rule change means we can
It seems other clubs haven't yet capitalised on this new opportunity so Town getting in early could steal a march on there rivals and get some decent value
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Post by Tiro on May 8, 2021 11:31:01 GMT 1
Seems a clever workaround for Town. We couldn't get players from Brazil and others pre Brexit. However the rule change means we can It seems other clubs haven't yet capitalised on this new opportunity so Town getting in early could steal a march on there rivals and get some decent value You are correct about using the market, but this isn’t revolutionary by any means; most PL and Champ clubs are looking there too and already have irons in the fire, with PL clubs already setting up talent schools in the region. Expect high interest on anyone who even appears remotely capable of making the move. |
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Post by LTown on May 8, 2021 12:02:48 GMT 1
Can we even bring this guy over considering the rules around visas and number of “points” required etc? Should be the first thought when reviewing any rumour of international signings as that might write it off straight away. I believe it’s easier for South American’s to gain such points as they near enough get the full quota if just names in a squad for their version of the champions league. I'll hire a light aircraft and fly him myself. On second thoughts. |
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Post by merseysideterrier on May 9, 2021 17:28:54 GMT 1
As exciting as Town being linked with a Brazilian striker is, I wonder if this is a bit too risky for everyone involved. Young lad, limited professional experience, coming into a foreign club in fairly dire straits, hardly a recipe for success. And on Town's end we seem to have a lot of 'ones for the future' (High, Daly, Thomas, Diarra etc) and I'm sure he won't be cheap (Transfermarkt has him down at £1.8mil). I hope I'm wrong but I can't see this one working out.
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Post by yappledapple on May 9, 2021 17:42:32 GMT 1
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Post by arry11 on May 9, 2021 19:01:57 GMT 1
As exciting as Town being linked with a Brazilian striker is, I wonder if this is a bit too risky for everyone involved. Young lad, limited professional experience, coming into a foreign club in fairly dire straits, hardly a recipe for success. And on Town's end we seem to have a lot of 'ones for the future' (High, Daly, Thomas, Diarra etc) and I'm sure he won't be cheap (Transfermarkt has him down at £1.8mil). I hope I'm wrong but I can't see this one working out. You maybe right but i would be curious to see this type player at Town a loan with the chance to buy would seem okay. |
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Post by leroy212 on May 9, 2021 19:24:30 GMT 1
Is this a sign maybe that Phil has found some money from somewhere
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 9, 2021 19:56:48 GMT 1
Is this a sign maybe that Phil has found some money from somewhere Tbf with over £40m in transfer fees & over £60m in parachute payments over the last two seasons, even after paying back bank loans, DH & wages, we should still have money to spend. Yes we've had Covid-19 to deal with but over the last two seasons the club have still sold over 25k season cards & had the best selling shirt in our history so if there's no money to spend something really dodgy has happened. |
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Post by Tiro on May 9, 2021 20:05:11 GMT 1
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