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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 8:01:43 GMT 1
It's times like these when we give thanks for being a responsibly run club. Phil Hodgkinson isn't popular but he's keeping us on the right side of the line (as far as we know, anyway). You’re right to qualify that statement….cos you don’t know.
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Post by detox on Sept 22, 2021 8:04:00 GMT 1
I keep looking at the Championship league table and seeing Derby 12th on 10 points... So how long does it take to impose the points deductions or will that take 3 years as well. ?
As regards the 'negotiating' the terms of punishment for breaches, while this is farcical the reality is the EFL cannot impose the punishment without the independent scrutiny panels agreement. often this 'independent panel' over rules the EFL or suggests greater scrutiny of breaches is required. Obviously the EFL must be getting pissed off they don't have the authority to impose sanctions after they've examined the clubs accounts. I don't know wht the EFL don't have the ultimate authority over this, but I guess it's one reason why they now seem to prefer to negotiate an acceptable punishment with the transgressors so as to avoid having their deicsions overturned.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 22, 2021 8:19:44 GMT 1
I keep looking at the Championship league table and seeing Derby 12th on 10 points... So how long does it take to impose the points deductions or will that take 3 years as well. ? As regards the 'negotiating' the terms of punishment for breaches, while this is farcical the reality is the EFL cannot impose the punishment without the independent scrutiny panels agreement. often this 'independent panel' over rules the EFL or suggests greater scrutiny of breaches is required. Obviously the EFL must be getting pissed off they don't have the authority to impose sanctions after they've examined the clubs accounts. I don't know wht the EFL don't have the ultimate authority over this, but I guess it's one reason why they now seem to prefer to negotiate an acceptable punishment with the transgressors so as to avoid having their deicsions overturned. The initial 12 points come off the moment that Derby actually enter administration. As for the others, who knows?
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 22, 2021 10:23:46 GMT 1
Doubt he will see a penny of that It's a football debt - if they don't pay it in full the club won't be able to remain in the EFL when they exit administration. Ahh dint realise it was classed as a football debt
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 22, 2021 12:18:33 GMT 1
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Post by k1man999 on Sept 22, 2021 12:46:21 GMT 1
Looks like reading are in talks with EFL over a possible points deduction for breaches Reading are set for a nine-point deduction after an alleged breach of financial rules. If applied it would drop them to one point, six behind Posh who they beat 3-1 last Tuesday (September 14).Both Derby and Reading are currently negotiating with the EFL over an ‘agreed decision’ according to the Daily Telegraph.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 12:59:25 GMT 1
It's times like these when we give thanks for being a responsibly run club. Phil Hodgkinson isn't popular but he's keeping us on the right side of the line (as far as we know, anyway). You’re right to qualify that statement….cos you don’t know. But all published accounts so far mean we do know up to that point!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 22, 2021 13:50:16 GMT 1
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 22, 2021 13:54:06 GMT 1
Dosent bring Wycombe back. They should swap places. They will survive the minus 2 as it stands
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 22, 2021 14:04:20 GMT 1
Quite - they've been shafted well and truly.
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Post by iangreaves on Sept 22, 2021 17:18:55 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 22, 2021 17:23:11 GMT 1
Town win the league on 13 points?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 22, 2021 17:27:56 GMT 1
Town win the league on 13 points? We could also play ourselves at Wembley in the play off final, have a day out? No point missing out..?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 17:31:34 GMT 1
Town win the league on 13 points? We could also play ourselves at Wembley in the play off final, have a day out? No point missing out..? Do you want to introduce your new friend?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 17:34:53 GMT 1
Quite - they've been shafted well and truly. I wouldn't go as far as saying that now. They were only in the league due to the PPG fiasco. They werent even in the play offs......
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 22, 2021 17:37:33 GMT 1
Town win the league on 13 points? then are fined £4 billion and deducted 120 points for inappropriate advertising on shirts.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 24, 2021 19:45:12 GMT 1
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Post by cyberman on Sept 24, 2021 20:25:23 GMT 1
Well would you want that granny shagger phoning you ? - he might be after a date with your nan !
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Post by Wingman on Sept 24, 2021 20:53:14 GMT 1
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 24, 2021 21:02:25 GMT 1
Rooney probably took advice from his very own "Wagatha Christie" on how to contact Murky Mel!
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Post by softboy on Sept 25, 2021 17:30:09 GMT 1
and they lost to a last minute penalty at Sheff U today. Soon be another 9 point deduction so minus 11. Don't like to see other teams/fans suffer, oh sorry I do in this case.
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Post by orinoco on Oct 11, 2021 15:25:14 GMT 1
Derby are set to appeal against their 12 point deduction. No surprises there.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 11, 2021 15:34:38 GMT 1
Derby are set to appeal against their 12 point deduction. No surprises there. How? Why? It's standard procedure for going into Administration and is known and accepted by all clubs at the start of the season. If we're going to entertain spurious appeals then I think that we should appeal against having to go Derby because we never win there. Fair enough?
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Post by Melc on Oct 11, 2021 15:42:26 GMT 1
Derby are set to appeal against their 12 point deduction. No surprises there. I read something the other day that Derby are trying to get the 12 point deduction halved to 6 points on the grounds of covid costing them money that otherwise would have seen them not need to go into administration. It also said it could open the floodgates for clubs to use administration to get rid of their debts, as a 6 points deduction would be do able to claw back and escape relegation. Wigan where turned down last season under the same circumstances, that sent them into league one.
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Post by orinoco on Oct 11, 2021 15:45:27 GMT 1
Derby are set to appeal against their 12 point deduction. No surprises there. How? Why? It's standard procedure for going into Administration and is known and accepted by all clubs at the start of the season. If we're going to entertain spurious appeals then I think that we should appeal against having to go Derby because we never win there. Fair enough? Exactly, its the rules 12 points deducted for going into administration.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 11, 2021 15:56:39 GMT 1
Derby are set to appeal against their 12 point deduction. No surprises there. I read something the other day that Derby are trying to get the 12 point deduction halved to 6 points on the grounds of covid costing them money that otherwise would have seen them not need to go into administration. It also said it could open the floodgates for clubs to use administration to get rid of their debts, as a 6 points deduction would be do able to claw back and escape relegation. Wigan where turned down last season under the same circumstances, that sent them into league one. Yeah it's definitely the covid testing that sent them into administration & not the multimillion pound transfer deals & stupid wages they were offering year after year..
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Post by ilsonterrier on Oct 11, 2021 16:35:07 GMT 1
Derby are set to appeal against their 12 point deduction. No surprises there. I read something the other day that Derby are trying to get the 12 point deduction halved to 6 points on the grounds of covid costing them money that otherwise would have seen them not need to go into administration. It also said it could open the floodgates for clubs to use administration to get rid of their debts, as a 6 points deduction would be do able to claw back and escape relegation. Wigan where turned down last season under the same circumstances, that sent them into league one. Think Wigan was a different scenario as, if I remember rightly, the guy who screwed them over actually took over there after Covid took hold, so he knew what he was getting into. On another point, my husband says he has heard (probably on Radio Derby) that, given that they have gone into administration, they no longer need to publish the accounts for 2018-19 and 2019-20. If that is true, they will get away with even more financial shenanigans because their losses for those 2 years will likely be even worse than those for the years published up to June 2018. I fear they are going to use Covid to get away with everything, when it's actually years of mis-management.
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 11, 2021 16:44:47 GMT 1
I read something the other day that Derby are trying to get the 12 point deduction halved to 6 points on the grounds of covid costing them money that otherwise would have seen them not need to go into administration. It also said it could open the floodgates for clubs to use administration to get rid of their debts, as a 6 points deduction would be do able to claw back and escape relegation. Wigan where turned down last season under the same circumstances, that sent them into league one. Think Wigan was a different scenario as, if I remember rightly, the guy who screwed them over actually took over there after Covid took hold, so he knew what he was getting into. On another point, my husband says he has heard (probably on Radio Derby) that, given that they have gone into administration, they no longer need to publish the accounts for 2018-19 and 2019-20. If that is true, they will get away with even more financial shenanigans because their losses for those 2 years will likely be even worse than those for the years published up to June 2018. I fear they are going to use Covid to get away with everything, when it's actually years of mis-management. Shysters the lot of them
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Post by frankslegs on Oct 11, 2021 17:17:49 GMT 1
So Mel Morris is a shyster ! He has personally lost over 200 million trying to get the team he has always supported into the PL-he made some bad calls but ultimately did put his money where his mouth is-what has happened over the last two years is simply him trying any route to survive the club -The very eloquent Notts Forest businessman that spoke at the White Rose after our defeat said it was in nobody’s interests what has happened at Derby and he really wanted them to survive and thrive as it was the best call for football in that area Yes it’s all bonkers in hindsight but right now I believe Town are making sensible sustainable decisions that in the medium term will be the right call
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Post by leroy212 on Oct 11, 2021 18:45:58 GMT 1
How can they appeal it. Every other club in country had to deal with covid. And no one else is going into administration and blaming covid
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