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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:37:39 GMT 1
Doesn’t need rules, hardly toxic content on here is there And thank you. But there are rules.... To suit. You're right tho
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:41:21 GMT 1
I'll be honest Posting should the terminally ill is like posting should the cancer stricken so and so. It's bad taste that however you look at it.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 17, 2021 0:50:24 GMT 1
Me gripe here bud Remove the terminally ill. It's not right tbh I wrote that to emphasize (for those that didn't know) the fact that we were banning a poster who only has a short time to live. Whether I was right or wrong matters less than the despicable decision (imo) to deny the bloke a chance to spend his last few weeks/months discussing/debating/arguing the ways of the world with his fellow Town supporters. I could edit the question if it was possible but I don't think it can be done, as I've asked this question before and an admin didn't know how to.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:52:40 GMT 1
Me gripe here bud Remove the terminally ill. It's not right tbh I wrote that to emphasize (for those that didn't know) the fact that we were banning a poster who only has a short time to live. Whether I was right or wrong matters less than the despicable decision (imo) to deny the bloke a chance to spend his last few weeks/months discussing/debating/arguing the ways of the world with his fellow Town supporters. I could edit the question if it was possible but I don't think it can be done, as I've asked this question before and an admin didn't know how to. Wasn't being an arse. I fully agree with you, he shouldnt be stripped of being here. Just seemed a bit distasteful on first glance bud that's all. Be a dull site without characters. Nick included
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Post by est1908 on Jul 17, 2021 0:56:29 GMT 1
Without Otium, this place will be shit. A bit like being forced to watching the France Tour bicycle thing...
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 17, 2021 0:57:07 GMT 1
I wrote that to emphasize (for those that didn't know) the fact that we were banning a poster who only has a short time to live. Whether I was right or wrong matters less than the despicable decision (imo) to deny the bloke a chance to spend his last few weeks/months discussing/debating/arguing the ways of the world with his fellow Town supporters. I could edit the question if it was possible but I don't think it can be done, as I've asked this question before and an admin didn't know how to. Wasn't being an arse. I fully agree with you, he shouldnt be stripped of being here. Just seemed a bit distasteful on first glance bud that's all. Be a dull site without characters. Nick included I don't think Oti will mind to be hnoest. He's mentioned his condition a few times but despite the pain he's in, he appears to keep his chin up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:58:13 GMT 1
Wasn't being an arse. I fully agree with you, he shouldnt be stripped of being here. Just seemed a bit distasteful on first glance bud that's all. Be a dull site without characters. Nick included I don't think Oti will mind to be hnoest. He's mentioned his condition a few times but despite the pain he's in, he appears to keep his chin up. I know I've spoke to him message wise. Just could seem off to others. He's thick skinned mind. Rather him here tbh tho
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Post by legoat on Jul 17, 2021 1:06:39 GMT 1
It's a football forum/message board. There's plenty of other places on the Internet to talk politics.
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Post by El Mel on Jul 17, 2021 6:30:33 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. You don't believe in democracy then? If there was a vote to ascertain your position as an admin, would you overrule that as well? It's an interesting pedestal you are placing yourselves on there. Tells us a lot about your true views on fairness and democracy.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 17, 2021 6:45:45 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Still can't work out how two admins have become judge, jury and executioners on here. I liked Otium, no idea what he said, because like many others I barely post anymore because the site has been ruined by snowflakes. Maybe the admins should have an independent adjudication panel to to analyse and ratify their decisions. Anyway the admin is overbearing on this site, life bans for Leeds fans only. I would imagine a week off for most would be sufficient for the alcohol to pass the system and for them to be moderate again. Otiums mental health must be on the floor, illness, coming out of lockdown and then limited life expectancy and then you drive another nail in. It's the gestapos decision but can't say I necessarily agree whatever has gone on. Maybe an amnesty is required on the good old posters like Nick etc and bring them back into the fresh start and the new season.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 17, 2021 7:02:37 GMT 1
Much as I would like to see Otium reinstated, I am not going to vote. Otium cannot be reinstated as the rules currently stand. You have created the wrong poll. You should have asked - Should we dispense with life bans - and instead have ever increasing periods of banishment. Please feel free to create such a poll. Mine will be a big fat YES Get Nick back!
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 17, 2021 7:32:33 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Still can't work out how two admins have become judge, jury and executioners on here. I liked Otium, no idea what he said, because like many others I barely post anymore because the site has been ruined by snowflakes. Maybe the admins should have an independent adjudication panel to to analyse and ratify their decisions. Anyway the admin is overbearing on this site, life bans for Leeds fans only. I would imagine a week off for most would be sufficient for the alcohol to pass the system and for them to be moderate again. Otiums mental health must be on the floor, illness, coming out of lockdown and then limited life expectancy and then you drive another nail in. It's the gestapos decision but can't say I necessarily agree whatever has gone on. Maybe an amnesty is required on the good old posters like Nick etc and bring them back into the fresh start and the new season. *3 admins
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Jul 17, 2021 8:10:08 GMT 1
Yes, most definitely, i've known Otium for over 40 years and i know whose posts i would rather read on here and its certainly not the posts of the odious, self important big daddy g and his legion of bullies. Disagree with them and you get banned, smacks of MCarthyism, Hitlers Germany and Stalinist Russia and todays social media cancel culture. Hitler's Germany? Stalinist Russia? Oh dear! The only odious behaviour is that of your friend of forty years. It probably reveals much about you too - as do your laughably poor and misguided comparisons.
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Post by basil on Jul 17, 2021 8:45:41 GMT 1
Let's get some new admins is on a par with Let's get a new owner.
Both are thankless jobs, I'm glad that someone is willing to do them.
Can't see a queue of alternative candidates.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 8:48:54 GMT 1
Still can't work out how two admins have become judge, jury and executioners on here. I liked Otium, no idea what he said, because like many others I barely post anymore because the site has been ruined by snowflakes. Maybe the admins should have an independent adjudication panel to to analyse and ratify their decisions. Anyway the admin is overbearing on this site, life bans for Leeds fans only. I would imagine a week off for most would be sufficient for the alcohol to pass the system and for them to be moderate again. Otiums mental health must be on the floor, illness, coming out of lockdown and then limited life expectancy and then you drive another nail in. It's the gestapos decision but can't say I necessarily agree whatever has gone on. Maybe an amnesty is required on the good old posters like Nick etc and bring them back into the fresh start and the new season. *3 admins Does strike me as a bit of a made up rule set, by those in admin. If 2 of you folks very much disliked someone, there is zero hope for that person. One cock up and you'd be doing what you can to rid you of that annoyance. I'm merely on the out looking in. It doesn't get away from any racism that may have happened, but deciding who to life off a football site being decided by 3 people with rules seemingly made to their own taste, is a bit shit. But in fairness, it isn't my site. As we are all Town fans, some fat some skinny, some tall, some small and in a pretty shit time at the moment, it would be good for an admin to maybe be a leader and privately message him, addressing his wrongs and getting a point across. Booting someone off and having pages of discussion about it doesn't work at all. Like I say, not my site. Could be a better outcome however.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 9:23:44 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Still can't work out how two admins have become judge, jury and executioners on here. I liked Otium, no idea what he said, because like many others I barely post anymore because the site has been ruined by snowflakes. Maybe the admins should have an independent adjudication panel to to analyse and ratify their decisions. Anyway the admin is overbearing on this site, life bans for Leeds fans only. I would imagine a week off for most would be sufficient for the alcohol to pass the system and for them to be moderate again. Otiums mental health must be on the floor, illness, coming out of lockdown and then limited life expectancy and then you drive another nail in. It's the gestapos decision but can't say I necessarily agree whatever has gone on. Maybe an amnesty is required on the good old posters like Nick etc and bring them back into the fresh start and the new season. Says a lot that Grim’s only response to this message was to correct you that there are 3 admins, not 2. The arrogance of the man is palpable.
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Post by golcarexile on Jul 17, 2021 9:39:38 GMT 1
Thought carefully about whether to post this or not. Anyone who knows me or my posting history on here will see that I never post anything inflamatory or anything really that could be construed as controversial, other than of the 'this player is absolute rubbish' type. This post should not be taken as a call to reinstate Otium, Nick or anyone else who has received a permanent ban. I would just like it to ask for it to be made clear in this case why he was banned. On the admin thread it states: otium (EPBS) - Permanent Ban. Final warning breached with the last reported post containing homophobic content, again. 2/2 Admins agreed in favour of the ban - 3rd forced to abstain due to being involved in the 'conversation'.
I believe Otium had racked up 5 previous yellow cards, putting him one offence away from a permanent ban, a fact which he was surely aware of. Was the final offence a yellow or red card? The log entry does not make this clear. I have read through the forum rules carefully and am not sure which section and sub-section this transgression falls under. I just feel that when someone receives a permanent ban, there is a need for a bit more clarity as to why it was handed down in accordance with the rules of the forum as they are written.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 17, 2021 10:12:48 GMT 1
Great post title - reminiscent of Mrs Merton at her very best: “So tell me, Debbie, what was it that first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?”
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Post by digs on Jul 17, 2021 11:00:59 GMT 1
This is a football forum. A natural comparison. Justifying a red card on a football forum by comparing it to a red card in a football match is bizarre. Although yes, I do understand the tenuous links between the two. Steady on that post could of broke someone's leg,possibly end their career
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Post by Niggled on Jul 17, 2021 11:14:08 GMT 1
Bet you’re a bit baffled that the voting is so close, though. Don’t think anyone seriously expects this poll to make a difference. Not baffled at all. Oti divides opinion. Always has. But that's irrelevant. If someone was shown a red card in a football match and the game was stopped to poll the crowd, it would be laughable. And if they got a red card they would get a 2 or 3 game ban , not life. That would be laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 11:19:09 GMT 1
So someone's made a poll, it's swinging that way to favour him being reinstated as voted for by members on here.
One admin won't base it off this however, but will stick to rules made by one or all 3 of the admins . You can't make it up
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 11:21:34 GMT 1
Not baffled at all. Oti divides opinion. Always has. But that's irrelevant. If someone was shown a red card in a football match and the game was stopped to poll the crowd, it would be laughable. And if they got a red card they would get a 2 or 3 game ban , not life. That would be laughable. If its been based on a footy match then, pretty sure there's alot of footballers done for racism.... Suarez etc. Pretty sure they've all played again too. It's made to suit it seems
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Post by chinaski on Jul 17, 2021 11:22:47 GMT 1
Like I say, not my site. Could be a better outcome however. Not theirs, either - no matter how much they pretend it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 11:29:55 GMT 1
Like I say, not my site. Could be a better outcome however. Not theirs, either - no matter how much they pretend it is. Yet their rules. If a new admin comes along, will they make up their own rules too? It's dead funny, it's like a proper shit Parliament
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Post by Niggled on Jul 17, 2021 11:35:01 GMT 1
Not theirs, either - no matter how much they pretend it is. Yet their rules. If a new admin comes along, will they make up their own rules too? It's dead funny, it's like a proper shit Parliament And if the parliament is shit they get voted out . Not these clowns though , they disregard what the majority are saying. If that's not dictatorship I don't know what is. And who voted for them in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 11:40:23 GMT 1
Yet their rules. If a new admin comes along, will they make up their own rules too? It's dead funny, it's like a proper shit Parliament And if the parliament is shit they get voted out . Not these clowns though , they disregard what the majority are saying. If that's not dictatorship I don't know what is. And who voted for them in the first place. I've noticed it's made to suit in here. Like it or lump it attitude. Putting it to a vote is how a few things should work. Funny one admin has cast that straight off in this thread however. Power trip if I ever saw one.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jul 17, 2021 11:51:40 GMT 1
Oti often causes people to think, debate and respond. He's not a dictator and everyone on DATM has the right to reply if they choose to.
The board is poorer without him
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Jul 17, 2021 11:54:04 GMT 1
Without Otium, this place will be shit. A bit like being forced to watching the France Tour bicycle thing... Now that's a low blow pal
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Jul 17, 2021 11:54:57 GMT 1
Oti often causes people to think, debate and respond. He's not a dictator and everyone on DATM has the right to reply if they choose to. The board is poorer without him Exactly. I know of people who come on here only to read his stuff
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 17, 2021 13:30:51 GMT 1
I voted yes but find his posts beyond reason
I blocked him about a year ago so less junk to read
How ill is he? If this needs to be expedited it should be
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