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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 16, 2021 19:33:30 GMT 1
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Post by bud on Jul 16, 2021 19:52:55 GMT 1
yeah sad day
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 16, 2021 19:56:37 GMT 1
Depends if he's going to stop with the casual racism
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jul 16, 2021 19:59:23 GMT 1
Much as I would like to see Otium reinstated, I am not going to vote. Otium cannot be reinstated as the rules currently stand. You have created the wrong poll. You should have asked - Should we dispense with life bans - and instead have ever increasing periods of banishment.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 16, 2021 20:06:34 GMT 1
Much as I would like to see Otium reinstated, I am not going to vote. Otium cannot be reinstated as the rules currently stand. You have created the wrong poll. You should have asked - Should we dispense with life bans - and instead have ever increasing periods of banishment. Please feel free to create such a poll. Mine will be a big fat YES
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Post by Tiro on Jul 16, 2021 20:48:58 GMT 1
Just a question; What’s his terminal illness got to do with the debate? Or is racism his illness?*
*don’t care what about shite folk spurt in the Jurassic Park room. Not wading in on of he is or isn’t racist. That just seems to be the justification for the outrage.
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Post by artysid on Jul 16, 2021 21:34:57 GMT 1
You expecting us to vote on something when none of us know the circumstances of what's happened, or are you proposing a rule change for terminally ill people to be treated differently?
If the latter please draft and post the new rule you're proposing so we can consider it.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 16, 2021 22:47:36 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 22:51:25 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Bet you’re a bit baffled that the voting is so close, though. Don’t think anyone seriously expects this poll to make a difference.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jul 16, 2021 22:52:49 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Are we going to get a vote on life time bans though Grim. Do I need to start a poll on that?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 16, 2021 22:53:37 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Bet you’re a bit baffled that the voting is so close, though. Don’t think anyone seriously expects this poll to make a difference. Not baffled at all. Oti divides opinion. Always has. But that's irrelevant. If someone was shown a red card in a football match and the game was stopped to poll the crowd, it would be laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 22:55:35 GMT 1
Bet you’re a bit baffled that the voting is so close, though. Don’t think anyone seriously expects this poll to make a difference. Not baffled at all. Oti divides opinion. Always has. But that's irrelevant. If someone was shown a red card in a football match and the game was stopped to poll the crowd, it would be laughable. Good job this isn’t a football match, then. Odd comparison.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 16, 2021 22:56:22 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Are we going to get a vote on life time bans though Grim. Do I need to start a poll on that? So far as I know lifetime bans have always been a possible sanction on this forum. There are several posters who have been banned for life. I'm not aware of any social media platform that doesn't have such a possible consequence for habitual rule breakers. If you can show us a model that works in practice that doesn't have a lifetime ban, I'm happy to discuss it with the other admins, but I'm pretty certain none exist that are workable. There has to come a time when enough is enough.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 16, 2021 22:56:46 GMT 1
Not baffled at all. Oti divides opinion. Always has. But that's irrelevant. If someone was shown a red card in a football match and the game was stopped to poll the crowd, it would be laughable. Good job this isn’t a football match, then. Odd comparison. This is a football forum. A natural comparison.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 22:59:28 GMT 1
Good job this isn’t a football match, then. Odd comparison. This is a football forum. A natural comparison. Justifying a red card on a football forum by comparing it to a red card in a football match is bizarre. Although yes, I do understand the tenuous links between the two.
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Post by simontrevittsears on Jul 16, 2021 22:59:54 GMT 1
Yes, most definitely, i've known Otium for over 40 years and i know whose posts i would rather read on here and its certainly not the posts of the odious, self important big daddy g and his legion of bullies. Disagree with them and you get banned, smacks of MCarthyism, Hitlers Germany and Stalinist Russia and todays social media cancel culture.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 16, 2021 23:04:36 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Aye democracy has no place on here.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 16, 2021 23:08:31 GMT 1
Yes, most definitely, i've known Otium for over 40 years and i know whose posts i would rather read on here and its certainly not the posts of the odious, self important big daddy g and his legion of bullies. Disagree with them and you get banned, smacks of MCarthyism, Hitlers Germany and Stalinist Russia and todays social media cancel culture. If we banned everyone I or pther admins disagreed with, there'd be far fewer posters on the site. Your post is hysterical. Not in the sense that it's funny. In the true sense of hysteria. Stop and think for a moment. What you're suggesting is that I somehow every undue influence over the Two other admins, neither of whom I've ever met. How do you think I manage to control these two puppets, pray tell? Some of the theories on here about how I'm supposedly power hungry and nefariously control other admins are deserving of nothing but scorn. If you saw the sheer number of posts of Oti's that have been reported and had no action taken over the years you'd realise just what utter hogwash this comment is. Truth is he could have been banned several times over and hasn't. How exactly does that fit with your conspiracy theory?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Jul 16, 2021 23:09:15 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Aye democracy has no place on here. Or, more appropriately, kangaroo courts have no place here.
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Post by chinaski on Jul 16, 2021 23:16:20 GMT 1
Aye democracy has no place on here. Or, more appropriately, kangaroo courts have no place here. If we get some less self-important admins can we scrap the ludicrous transfer sub board?
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jul 16, 2021 23:19:32 GMT 1
Are we going to get a vote on life time bans though Grim. Do I need to start a poll on that? So far as I know lifetime bans have always been a possible sanction on this forum. There are several posters who have been banned for life. I'm not aware of any social media platform that doesn't have such a possible consequence for habitual rule breakers. If you can show us a model that works in practice that doesn't have a lifetime ban, I'm happy to discuss it with the other admins, but I'm pretty certain none exist that are workable. There has to come a time when enough is enough. How do you have knowledge of all social media platfoms? I suggest a scale of banning. A week, then a month, then 3 months. then 6 months then a year. If after a year offences are still being committed then fair enough. Also, the yellows should not stick with you for life. Otium has been posting on here for over a decade. Get a yellow, and then if you have stayed clean for say 6 months, that yellow goes away and you start on a clean slate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 23:22:43 GMT 1
Haven't come across his racism tbh but he does make for good convo. Reckon a warning and final one for it. But it's shit without that fun stories. Nick the same. Dead odd but in a fun way. Freedom of speech and all, no matter how odd. Racism though, no part in my life tbh can't condone casual racism either. Be it ya mates black or what not, it's fucking awful. I say let him and us enjoy him while he's here, cos he's part of this site and like or not, it's fun most the time
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Post by legoat on Jul 17, 2021 0:04:13 GMT 1
Is there a "Dont give a fuck let's just talk football" option.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:06:06 GMT 1
Is there a "Dont give a fuck let's just talk football" option. Polish football or Armenian players?
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Post by legoat on Jul 17, 2021 0:10:33 GMT 1
Is there a "Dont give a fuck let's just talk football" option. Polish football or Armenian players? U18 Armenian obviously
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:17:59 GMT 1
Polish football or Armenian players? U18 Armenian obviously Henrikh Brusselsprotsnitz
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:28:34 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Power trip
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:32:55 GMT 1
Just to clarify for anyone in any doubt, this is a poll that will not result in any change to the decision from rhe admin team. Feel free to vote but it is a purely academic process. Power trip What are the rules anyway. Not having a go at admins but it does seem rules are as they personally seem fit. Nick annoyed folk but did it warrant a life ban or was that cos an admin disliked him so much. He talked wet but jesus a life ban. Seems a bit strong. If I've missed rules sorry, but a set need to be on. Stick to it and not make as you see fit being an admin. Isn't directed at any and please correct me if I've missed anything or a post please
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:34:23 GMT 1
Doesn’t need rules, hardly toxic content on here is there
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 0:36:30 GMT 1
Me gripe here bud Remove the terminally ill. It's not right tbh
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