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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 16:53:29 GMT 1
" Some on here are in the ear of certain Admins " Want to name any names ? Want to provide any evidence? Because that is a pretty big accusation to be throwing about . You seem to have gone a bit "Donald Trump" also Can someone teach Ted how to quote please? Just as bad as grammar mistakes 😉 |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 18, 2021 16:54:02 GMT 1
Yes I do . I was being a complete hypocrite Steve when I pointed out no one had been sanctioned for spelling mistakes. I've now being cornered. I'm now desperately trying to deflect. Steve is right Ted is wrong . 1-0 Steve. Game set n match Steve. Steve is always right . Hats off to Steve. Etc etc Again, predictable, what else could YOU do when cornered! Steve. I'm agreeing with everything you say . And still you are angry. Not sure what else I can do. I bet you're easy to live with |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 16:57:34 GMT 1
Again, predictable, what else could YOU do when cornered! Steve. I'm agreeing with everything you say . And still you are angry. Not sure what else I can do. I bet you're easy to live with Actually, agreeing with me is a small, sarcastic, part of what you just posted and the rest.... People can see through you Ted. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 18, 2021 17:00:09 GMT 1
Steve. I'm agreeing with everything you say . And still you are angry. Not sure what else I can do. I bet you're easy to live with Actually, agreeing with me is a small, sarcastic, part of what you just posted and the rest.... People can see through you Ted. Transparent Ted is my new nickname Can we call you "chilled out Steve "? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 17:05:43 GMT 1
Was it blatant and despicable homophobia or was it one mans views that many wouldn't be troubled by.Well no, many wouldn't be "troubled" by it. But some would - that's the fucking point. That shouldn't need explaining to you. "Homosexuality is deviant, i think it a poor lifestyle choice, i think its unhealthy, but i have no problem with grown men carrying out their sexual perversions (yes, another perfectly legitimate word that your tiny brain with struggle with) in the privacy of their own homes." It's not aimed at anybody personally, it's not targeting individuals, it's one mans views that will never be changed. I don't agree with it, but it's not something that I'd get upset about when reading. 1. No, it's not targeted at individuals. Just a whole section of society. Why do you not get that? Why are you trying to justify it? 2. You wouldn't get upset by it - what about someone who IS? This whole "it doesn't upset me, therefore nobody has the right to be upset by it" is absolute fucking bollocks. If an Inman said that all white Yorkshiremen were deviant, mentally-ill pedophiles, you'd be spitting feathers. Selective outrage, no? 3. You've got kids, right? Would you feel differently if one of them came out? Who's side would you be on? I certainly don't think it's something that should be triggering lifetime bans on a forum, butthen I find the notion of a lifetime ban on a message board rather pathetic anyway. The lifetime ban is another issue - but here, you ARE trying to excuse blatant homophobia. I know you'll come back and tell me it' blatant homophobia, but remember, that's your view, and one that isn't shared by a lot of the psters on the forum Well that's a bit part of the problem, isn't it? Maybe, just maybe, there ARE a number of homophobes on this forum? Why are you trying to appease them, and not call them out if, as you state, you "don't agree with it" - maybe you're part of the problem? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 17:06:38 GMT 1
Actually, agreeing with me is a small, sarcastic, part of what you just posted and the rest.... People can see through you Ted. Transparent Ted is my new nickname Can we call you "chilled out Steve "? If you change your name on here to Transparent Ted as you propose, I will change mine to Chilled out Steve. It's a deal! |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 18, 2021 17:16:11 GMT 1
Was it blatant and despicable homophobia or was it one mans views that many wouldn't be troubled by.Well no, many wouldn't be "troubled" by it. But some would - that's the fucking point. That shouldn't need explaining to you. "Homosexuality is deviant, i think it a poor lifestyle choice, i think its unhealthy, but i have no problem with grown men carrying out their sexual perversions (yes, another perfectly legitimate word that your tiny brain with struggle with) in the privacy of their own homes." It's not aimed at anybody personally, it's not targeting individuals, it's one mans views that will never be changed. I don't agree with it, but it's not something that I'd get upset about when reading. 1. No, it's not targeted at individuals. Just a whole section of society. Why do you not get that? Why are you trying to justify it? 2. You wouldn't get upset by it - what about someone who IS? This whole "it doesn't upset me, therefore nobody has the right to be upset by it" is absolute fucking bollocks. If an Inman said that all white Yorkshiremen were deviant, mentally-ill pedophiles, you'd be spitting feathers. Selective outrage, no? 3. You've got kids, right? Would you feel differently if one of them came out? Who's side would you be on? I certainly don't think it's something that should be triggering lifetime bans on a forum, butthen I find the notion of a lifetime ban on a message board rather pathetic anyway. The lifetime ban is another issue - but here, you ARE trying to excuse blatant homophobia. I know you'll come back and tell me it' blatant homophobia, but remember, that's your view, and one that isn't shared by a lot of the psters on the forum Well that's a bit part of the problem, isn't it? Maybe, just maybe, there ARE a number of homophobes on this forum? Why are you trying to appease them, and not call them out if, as you state, you "don't agree with it" - maybe you're part of the problem? Without getting onto the block quoting bollocks, maybe I am part of the problem. Or maybe I'm part of the problem as you perceive it. Either way, I'm 100% happy with my position. I can't believe you've asked that question about my kids by the way. What a fucking strange thing to ask... But you can have the answer, mind your own fucking business. It's personal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 17:34:50 GMT 1
Without getting onto the block quoting bollocks, maybe I am part of the problem.
Or maybe I'm part of the problem as you perceive it. What a weak way of deflecting what sounds an awful lot like trying to defend homophobia - but you're not prepared to address that, are you? As for the "as you perceive it" bit, you really don't get it, do you? Either way, I'm 100% happy with my position. Well, quite - that much is clear. I can't believe you've asked that question about my kids by the way. What a fucking strange thing to ask... It was a hypothetical question, to try to get to the bottom of your attitudes on sexuality. Suspect you've completely misinterpreted what I was saying... But you can have the answer, mind your own fucking business. It's personal. ...yeah, you definitely have. |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 18, 2021 17:40:21 GMT 1
Without getting onto the block quoting bollocks, maybe I am part of the problem.
Or maybe I'm part of the problem as you perceive it. What a weak way of deflecting what sounds an awful lot like trying to defend homophobia - but you're not prepared to address that, are you? As for the "as you perceive it" bit, you really don't get it, do you? Either way, I'm 100% happy with my position. Well, quite - that much is clear. I can't believe you've asked that question about my kids by the way. What a fucking strange thing to ask... It was a hypothetical question, to try to get to the bottom of your attitudes on sexuality. Suspect you've completely misinterpreted what I was saying... But you can have the answer, mind your own fucking business. It's personal. ...yeah, you definitely have. Why are you interested in other people's kids and their sexualities?? Weird. |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 17:47:38 GMT 1
You keep banging on about this but the key is the last line, particularly "blatant misuse". Nobody is getting banned for dropping the odd typo into their posts and that is proven on a daily basis. Try this: go and have a look at the action log and see how many people have been yellow carded for spelling "offences", and then ask yourself if you really need to keep beating this particular drum. In fairness to halifax, that rule does appear to empower the spelling & grammar police on here who accost many of us. Oh come on, most misspellings just turn threads into punfests. Nobody is empowered or bullied about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 17:52:51 GMT 1
In fairness to halifax, that rule does appear to empower the spelling & grammar police on here who accost many of us. Oh come on, most misspellings just turn threads into punfests. Nobody is empowered or bullied about it. Perhaps you genuinely think that? Unfortunately it is not correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 17:52:58 GMT 1
What a weak way of deflecting what sounds an awful lot like trying to defend homophobia - but you're not prepared to address that, are you? As for the "as you perceive it" bit, you really don't get it, do you? Well, quite - that much is clear. It was a hypothetical question, to try to get to the bottom of your attitudes on sexuality. Suspect you've completely misinterpreted what I was saying... ...yeah, you definitely have. Why are you interested in other people's kids and their sexualities?? Weird. Talk about missing the fucking point. Bloody hell. |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 17:56:48 GMT 1
First off, no - I don't only come on here to have an argument. I've been on here for over a decade. What I'm saying is that you're on here arguing against a ban for someone who's been banned where their latest - and not their first - breaking of the rules was for blatant and despicable homophobia. I haven't once said you're excusing it, but I am pointing out that you're trying to excuse a poster banned for it. The fact that you keep trying to reframe it in what sounds an awful lot like an anti-Islam sentiment that sounds a like a blatant deflection. I'm not accusing you of anything. Was it blatant and despicable homophobia or was it one mans views that many wouldn't be troubled by. "Homosexuality is deviant, i think it a poor lifestyle choice, i think its unhealthy, but i have no problem with grown men carrying out their sexual perversions (yes, another perfectly legitimate word that your tiny brain with struggle with) in the privacy of their own homes." It's not aimed at anybody personally, it's not targeting individuals, it's one mans views that will never be changed. I don't agree with it, but it's not something that I'd get upset about when reading. I certainly don't think it's something that should be triggering lifetime bans on a forum, butthen I find the notion of a lifetime ban on a message board rather pathetic anyway. I know you'll come back and tell me it' blatant homophobia, but remember, that's your view, and one that isn't shared by a lot of the psters on the forum There. Right fucking there. That is where the problem lies. If you can't see how that is a ludicrously negative attitude towards homosexuality then I'm afraid you're condoning the indefensible which in my eyes makes you a part of the problem. |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 17:58:37 GMT 1
Oh come on, most misspellings just turn threads into punfests. Nobody is empowered or bullied about it. Perhaps you genuinely think that? Unfortunately it is not correct. You're being even more of a child than the guy the rule was largely made because of 😂 you just keep moaning about problems that don't actually exist. I'm out. |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 18, 2021 18:01:14 GMT 1
Why are you interested in other people's kids and their sexualities?? Weird. Talk about missing the fucking point. Bloody hell. Haven't missed anything chief. You want to know what I'd think if it turned out my kids were gay, right? Do you want explicit details of my feelings on lesbian sex, or two men performing anal - if it was my kids? |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 18, 2021 18:02:24 GMT 1
Was it blatant and despicable homophobia or was it one mans views that many wouldn't be troubled by. "Homosexuality is deviant, i think it a poor lifestyle choice, i think its unhealthy, but i have no problem with grown men carrying out their sexual perversions (yes, another perfectly legitimate word that your tiny brain with struggle with) in the privacy of their own homes." It's not aimed at anybody personally, it's not targeting individuals, it's one mans views that will never be changed. I don't agree with it, but it's not something that I'd get upset about when reading. I certainly don't think it's something that should be triggering lifetime bans on a forum, butthen I find the notion of a lifetime ban on a message board rather pathetic anyway. I know you'll come back and tell me it' blatant homophobia, but remember, that's your view, and one that isn't shared by a lot of the psters on the forum There. Right fucking there. That is where the problem lies. If you can't see how that is a ludicrously negative attitude towards homosexuality then I'm afraid you're condoning the indefensible which in my eyes makes you a part of the problem. Fair enough. I'm part of the problem. |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 18:05:35 GMT 1
There. Right fucking there. That is where the problem lies. If you can't see how that is a ludicrously negative attitude towards homosexuality then I'm afraid you're condoning the indefensible which in my eyes makes you a part of the problem. Fair enough. I'm part of the problem. Yeah I know. It was pretty apparent early on in the whole discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 18:10:48 GMT 1
Perhaps you genuinely think that? Unfortunately it is not correct. You're being even more of a child than the guy the rule was largely made because of 😂 you just keep moaning about problems that don't actually exist. I'm out. I'm not moaning at all. I couldn't give shit whether I can spell, type or punctuate. I am commenting on my observations of what has happened in past. Surely we can all see what goes on on here. |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 18:40:33 GMT 1
You're being even more of a child than the guy the rule was largely made because of 😂 you just keep moaning about problems that don't actually exist. I'm out. I'm not moaning at all. I couldn't give shit whether I can spell, type or punctuate. I am commenting on my observations of what has happened in past. Surely we can all see what goes on on here. Any examples? Because I don't see anything like that happening. Ever. Plenty of times I see someone spell something wrong without any reprisals at all. If we can all see it then it won't be too hard for you to find an example of it, will it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 18:48:09 GMT 1
I'm not moaning at all. I couldn't give shit whether I can spell, type or punctuate. I am commenting on my observations of what has happened in past. Surely we can all see what goes on on here. Any examples? Because I don't see anything like that happening. Ever. Plenty of times I see someone spell something wrong without any reprisals at all. If we can all see it then it won't be too hard for you to find an example of it, will it? I'm not your employee, but there have been many references to the spelling or grammar police, so I don't find it credible that you have not seen it, ever. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 18, 2021 18:48:57 GMT 1
I'm not moaning at all. I couldn't give shit whether I can spell, type or punctuate. I am commenting on my observations of what has happened in past. Surely we can all see what goes on on here. Any examples? Because I don't see anything like that happening. Ever. Plenty of times I see someone spell something wrong without any reprisals at all. If we can all see it then it won't be too hard for you to find an example of it, will it? I've just looked back through the "Admin's actions". There was obviously Nick. There are another couple of yellows. But only after several warnings and clearly done on purpose (Hi Mark) Steve. There is no witch hunt against misspelling or bad grammar. (although I do like to type "fewer" now and again) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 18:56:20 GMT 1
Any examples? Because I don't see anything like that happening. Ever. Plenty of times I see someone spell something wrong without any reprisals at all. If we can all see it then it won't be too hard for you to find an example of it, will it? I've just looked back through the "Admin's actions". There was obviously Nick. There are another couple of yellows. But only after several warnings and clearly done on purpose (Hi Mark) Steve. There is no witch hunt against misspelling or bad grammar. (although I do like to type "fewer" now and again) I was not referring to official sanctions, I was referring to the empowerment of bullies. For fun I did a couple of searches too, spell 9 pages, grammar 2 pages, if you don't notice them try some research if you don't believe me. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 18, 2021 19:02:29 GMT 1
I've just looked back through the "Admin's actions". There was obviously Nick. There are another couple of yellows. But only after several warnings and clearly done on purpose (Hi Mark) Steve. There is no witch hunt against misspelling or bad grammar. (although I do like to type "fewer" now and again) I was not referring to official sanctions, I was referring to the empowerment of bullies. For fun I did a couple of searches too, spell 9 pages, grammar 2 pages, if you don't notice them try some research if you don't believe me. I have literally no idea what you mean. Sorry. I did my search and put the concise answer on here. You do that, please. I would appreciate it. |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 19:12:14 GMT 1
Any examples? Because I don't see anything like that happening. Ever. Plenty of times I see someone spell something wrong without any reprisals at all. If we can all see it then it won't be too hard for you to find an example of it, will it? I'm not your employee, but there have been many references to the spelling or grammar police, so I don't find it credible that you have not seen it, ever. Maybe the references to the spelling or grammar police are by people as paranoid as you? I gave you a chance to give an example and you chose not to for whatever reason. Let's just leave it there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 19:14:19 GMT 1
I was not referring to official sanctions, I was referring to the empowerment of bullies. For fun I did a couple of searches too, spell 9 pages, grammar 2 pages, if you don't notice them try some research if you don't believe me. I have literally no idea what you mean. Sorry. I did my search and put the concise answer on here. You do that, please. I would appreciate it. Top of page there is search function. Enter spell & click search repeat for grammar. I believe you get the number of pages of threads referencing those words, but I'm no expert. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 19:16:32 GMT 1
I'm not your employee, but there have been many references to the spelling or grammar police, so I don't find it credible that you have not seen it, ever. Maybe the references to the spelling or grammar police are by people as paranoid as you? I gave you a chance to give an example and you chose not to for whatever reason. Let's just leave it there. You cop out so easy it appears you have no interest in the truth, is that because it doesn't fit with your concept? |
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Post by Champers on Jul 18, 2021 19:19:12 GMT 1
Maybe the references to the spelling or grammar police are by people as paranoid as you? I gave you a chance to give an example and you chose not to for whatever reason. Let's just leave it there. You cop out so easy it appears you have no interest in the truth, is that because it doesn't fit with your concept? You're the one claiming the problem exists. I'm telling you it doesn't. If it exists to the level that you're spending so much time whingeing and whining about it then you would be able to pluck me an example from the search you're on about wouldn't you? You might even be correct, but don't make accusations if you're not prepared to back them up. That, Steve, is copping out. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 19:21:57 GMT 1
You cop out so easy it appears you have no interest in the truth, is that because it doesn't fit with your concept? You're the one claiming the problem exists. I'm telling you it doesn't. If it exists to the level that you're spending so much time whingeing and whining about it then you would be able to pluck me an example from the search you're on about wouldn't you? You might even be correct, but don't make accusations if you're not prepared to back them up. That, Steve, is copping out. I didn't say I wasn't prepared to back it up, I said I'm not your employee and suggested you try doing your own work instead of delegating it. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 18, 2021 19:29:14 GMT 1
You cop out so easy it appears you have no interest in the truth, is that because it doesn't fit with your concept? You're the one claiming the problem exists. I'm telling you it doesn't. If it exists to the level that you're spending so much time whingeing and whining about it then you would be able to pluck me an example from the search you're on about wouldn't you? You might even be correct, but don't make accusations if you're not prepared to back them up. That, Steve, is copping out. I’ve seen it dozens and dozens of times Some smart arse with a degree in being the brighter person. Not making it a pun fest where someone writes the wrong word in the wrong place ( although I’ve seen plenty of them) |
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