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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 4, 2021 13:58:26 GMT 1
Is Mbenza just milking the club for every penny or is he willing to knuckle down and try and play first team football? I honestly don't know anything about Mbenza's personal decisions . I would be honestly amazed if he was not interested in trying to regain his fist team status, I was always miffed if I had to miss playing even in the local amateur leagues, yet Town fans seem to be suggesting that Mbenza has just downed tools , I honestly don't know! Is It that he is just being completely side lined and has been told he is unlikely to play for Town again. I find the whole Mbenza saga a little bewildering. Often I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately the guy has used up all the goodwill that would have allowed that. Apart from a few months at the start of last season the guy has seemed to me like he was actively taking the piss. He's had chances to resurrect his career elsewhere & chosen not to take them. Cutting his nose off to spite his face? Maybe he'll still leave for Turkey, Russia, Mexico, Portugal or Australia, but I'm not hopeful. "Ils ont échoué" - yep, looks like they did. en.as.com/en/2021/08/29/soccer/1630224255_602750.htmlWouldn’t let him in down here, thank f*ck the borders are closed for a bit longer 🤣 |
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Post by Maynardblue on Sept 5, 2021 20:23:55 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee)
Not ideal but at least it sees him gone.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 5, 2021 20:29:47 GMT 1
What a despicable industry pro football is
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Post by boooothy on Sept 5, 2021 20:35:11 GMT 1
He’s had us over a barrel since day one. Why we ever thought he’d allow us to get a fee for him amazes me. Hopefully we can fine him a few more weeks wages before he buggers off.
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Post by Dan on Sept 5, 2021 20:46:32 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. Surely if we've agreed to that it's a tear up the contract job and we're not paying up his contract? |
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 5, 2021 20:51:28 GMT 1
What a despicable industry pro football is Agreed. Salary caps incoming to save football (I hope) |
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Post by sensible idiot on Sept 5, 2021 20:56:17 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. So… if I’m right…. When he signed for us, for in excess of £10,000,000 , his agent got a chunk and IM will also have received a signing on fee as that’s pretty standard. If my sums are correct , he produced the square root of fuck all in the time he’s been here….. whilst being one of the highest paid players this club has ever had…..becoming a millionaire whilst here. ….. and when we try to get a couple of quid back for him he pretty much says bollocks to you, me and my agent want that money so let me go on a free!!! I don’t give a shit if he’s a nice lad etc etc…. He’s a greedy fucker if that’s right. |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 5, 2021 21:03:17 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. Time to let the useless half arsed twonk depart and move on. I still smile at the " he will tear up the championship " posts on him though...... the apparent manner of his departure sums him up here......wanting everything and contributing very little. |
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 5, 2021 21:05:37 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. Rip it up and get him out of the club and eventually put an end to this sorry and very expensive saga. |
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 5, 2021 21:07:49 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. Time to let the useless half arsed twonk depart and move on. I still smile at the " he will tear up the championship " posts on him though...... the apparent manner of his departure sums him up here......wanting everything and contributing very little. I remember those folk saying he’d rip the championship apart. I also clearly remember replying ‘he couldn’t tear apart a paper bag’. Ffs. Between wages and salary hes cost about 10 years season tickets sales. Take that in. Ffs |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 5, 2021 21:13:50 GMT 1
Would have been nice to get at least a sell on % clause in any deal in case he suddenly turns in to Tony Yeboah but right now I'll settle for getting his wages off the books
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 5, 2021 21:16:33 GMT 1
Would have been nice to get at least a sell on % clause in any deal in case he suddenly turns in to Tony Yeboah but right now I'll settle for getting his wages off the books He’s more likely to turn into Tony Blair. Funnily enough another total fraud |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 5, 2021 21:26:11 GMT 1
Wonder how many 'taxis' are waiting outside the stadium?
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Post by Towner47 on Sept 5, 2021 21:37:11 GMT 1
I bloody hope DH is paying him off .
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Post by nah1 on Sept 5, 2021 21:39:52 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. Rip it up and get him out of the club and eventually put an end to this sorry and very expensive saga. Absolutely! At least enforcing the additional year won’t now result in us throwing good money after bad. |
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Post by sykeylad on Sept 5, 2021 21:42:03 GMT 1
Thank you for the insight Maynard.
To repoint some of those wages to Lewis O'Brien would be good news all 'round.
Mooy did great by us with his new contract and we did well with Bacuna. Clearly this situation is less satisfactory but sounds like the best result we can get now.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 5, 2021 21:53:55 GMT 1
Incredibly frustrating that this has happened now and not 4 weeks ago, when our balance sheet would have looked better with more prospects of new signings and not paying his wages. Win some you lose some, I guess.
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Post by northnottsblue on Sept 5, 2021 22:06:24 GMT 1
Mutual consent ?
I’d sit him down in the office,tear his contract up under his nose end,throw it in the bin,set fire to it,and then tell him to f..k off out of Huddersfield,then f..k off out of the uk and don’t come back you greedy parasitic twat.
And I’d let it be known,if his new club came asking,what the score was.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 5, 2021 22:09:09 GMT 1
Would have been nice to get at least a sell on % clause in any deal in case he suddenly turns in to Tony Yeboah but right now I'll settle for getting his wages off the books I wouldn’t worry too much. Struggling to think of many of our Premier League signings (Grant apart) who have gone onto achieve much in terms of generating value. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Sept 5, 2021 22:15:02 GMT 1
Mutual consent ? I’d sit him down in the office,tear his contract up under his nose end,throw it in the bin,set fire to it,and then tell him to f..k off out of Huddersfield,then f..k off out of the uk and don’t come back you greedy parasitic twat. And I’d let it be known,if his new club came asking,what the score was. Come on, tell us what you really think? 😂 |
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Post by Uddersfield on Sept 5, 2021 22:22:08 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. So he gets a hefty pay up from us as well as a signing on fee + wages at his new club? |
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Post by aca00js on Sept 5, 2021 22:34:53 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. So he gets a hefty pay up from us as well as a signing on fee + wages at his new club? I don't think we will pay him, basically what would have happened if we didn't trigger the clause. His agent gets what he wanted |
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Post by crux on Sept 5, 2021 22:53:54 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. Terminate his contract, make sure it's gone through properly. Then break the fax machine or PC that enables the transfer of player registration until the transfer window of the country he's going to is closed. |
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Post by incognito on Sept 5, 2021 23:56:01 GMT 1
I saw a suggestion yesterday that he may be off to Dubai. Quite a fitting conclusion to his career if so.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 0:12:29 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. If the club hoped to get a fee for Mbenza, maybe it should have made it less obvious how desperate it was to get shot of him? If I want to sell a kitten, as opposed to giving it away, I don't tell everyone: " If I can't find a buyer, I'll be drowning it". |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Sept 6, 2021 0:13:55 GMT 1
I saw a suggestion yesterday that he may be off to Dubai. Quite a fitting conclusion to his career if so. I wish no injury on any player. HOWEVER, if MB is correct and it's mutual termination that sets him agent and himself up for bonus and signing fees, I hope he gets hit with a career ending cruciate injury, followed by a hamstring tear, and then just for the cherry on top a snapped Achilles. The w4nker. |
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Post by melbourneterrier on Sept 6, 2021 3:18:45 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. So he gets a hefty pay up from us as well as a signing on fee + wages at his new club? He's had his hefty pay from us over the last few seasons. From what I understand, a mutual termination means he wouldn't get any further money. In affect, both parties are just cancelling his contract....not being paid out etc. Would have liked a fee, or a sell on clause, or something for Town but if that's not to be, then tearing up his contract is a good result. Hopefully we can divvy up his wages into tying down LOB (as a previous poster mentioned), or Sorba Thomas. |
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Post by detox on Sept 6, 2021 4:10:24 GMT 1
It looks to me like it'll be mutual termination of contract for Mbenza. I understand he has agreed a move but will only go there if we make him a free agent ( agent gets a bonus + IM will get a signing on fee) Not ideal but at least it sees him gone. IM's contract at Town was up...we could have just let him go then, for free , and by now he'd have already gone, end of story.
Town obviously thought we could get a fee for him, not sure how much we believed he was worth tbh but obviously clubs were put off or (as it seems in this case) IM didn't like the lack of a signing on fee and his agent wasn't getting his cut while potential buyers were also expected to pay a transfer fee.
You can imagine the conversations between IM, his agent and any club who were keen to take him on....it's a choice, probably by agent and new club, a better wage, a signing on fee, a cut for the agent and no transfer fee paid...all very cosy but that presumably was always the risk. ?
I'm not sure what people expect of IM, but in reality it's the agents who pull the strings. Was IM 'morally obliged' to enable Town to receive a fee for him (and for him to forgo a signing on fee) ? He'd been told he wasn't wanted at Town..so I expect there was an element of "well, stuff you lot..." . It's a sorry story, another one in the long list of bad decisions by Town when spaffing away £m's of PL money.
I'll be glad when we can finally put this thread to bed and watch disappear into obscurity...
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 6, 2021 5:30:25 GMT 1
And people feel sorry for this greedy prick. The only people I feel for are the fans of the next club he steals a living from. He might have pulled on the famous Huddersfield strip, but I’ll never consider him a Huddersfield player.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 7:19:32 GMT 1
What a despicable industry pro football is In which industry do the parties not try to get the best deal they can? Mbenza holds the cards and is playing them intelligently. Why shouldn't he negotiate according to his best interest? He could get a career-ending injury any time. He should strike the best deal he can, for him and his family. |
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