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Post by boooothy on Aug 29, 2021 16:38:27 GMT 1
There’s more chance of Simon Baldry playing for us again than Mbenza.
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 16:40:52 GMT 1
So if we don't sell Mbenza by Tuesday night, will he come back into the squad? We're paying his wages and he is a very good player. Anyone know the likely situation? From reading what CC said he said even if he dosent get sold he wont be playing as mbenza has made it known to the club he wants to leave and CC wont want him in the squad hes already stated he wants players playing that are here to stay that will be considered only Ok, thanks. I'd not heard that. |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 16:41:53 GMT 1
There’s more chance of Simon Baldry playing for us again than Mbenza. So you are not ruling it out. 😂 |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 16:44:17 GMT 1
From reading what CC said he said even if he dosent get sold he wont be playing as mbenza has made it known to the club he wants to leave and CC wont want him in the squad hes already stated he wants players playing that are here to stay that will be considered only Ok, thanks. I'd not heard that. Mind you, if that's true, why would he turn down offers from other clubs? |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 29, 2021 16:51:07 GMT 1
His agent isn’t stupid. Any fee we are hoping to receive Mbenza would obviously rather have himself. We’re in a terrible negotiating position and he knows it.
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 16:54:42 GMT 1
I'll be honest, I don't get it. A blood sucking agent wants his player to move, to get a slice of the fee. So, they need them to accept an offer or at least play to enhance their value and move elsewhere later.
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 29, 2021 17:00:13 GMT 1
I'll be honest, I don't get it. A blood sucking agent wants his player to move, to get a slice of the fee. So, they need them to accept an offer or at least play to enhance their value and move elsewhere later. I think he just needs to sit on his arse for a few months and then he can sign a pre-contract agreement with someone. He gets a fat signing-on fee rather than Town getting a transfer fee. |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 17:10:51 GMT 1
Ah. Ok, got it.
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Post by wigster on Aug 29, 2021 17:20:23 GMT 1
Give me Thomas any day of the week. At least Sorba wants to play unlike this toerag and his over-inflated ego. The point being we could gave both, if we don't sell. Mbenza was excellent until playing with injury last season, in my view. Not heard anyone who has met or actually knows the lad criticising his attitude. All about opinion as ever Sykeylad - you feel he's been "excellent" - fair enough, we'll agree to differ. For me Mbenza, Diakhaby and Pritchard represent so much that was wrong with our club - in terms of performances, apparent attitudes and costs at every level. |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Aug 29, 2021 17:34:03 GMT 1
Why would you turn down Olympiakos, your guaranteed European football, a great climate. Maybe he thinks he his too good for them and is waiting for Man City or PSG to come in for him.
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Post by cuz on Aug 29, 2021 17:37:15 GMT 1
Why would you turn down Olympiakos, your guaranteed European football, a great climate. Maybe he thinks he his too good for them and is waiting for Man City or PSG to come in for him. Think Real Madrid is his preferred destination! |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 17:53:39 GMT 1
The point being we could gave both, if we don't sell. Mbenza was excellent until playing with injury last season, in my view. Not heard anyone who has met or actually knows the lad criticising his attitude. All about opinion as ever Sykeylad - you feel he's been "excellent" - fair enough, we'll agree to differ. For me Mbenza, Diakhaby and Pritchard represent so much that was wrong with our club - in terms of performances, apparent attitudes and costs at every level. Indeed Wigster, for me Mbenza would not be included in that group you cite. He would get into just about every match day squad in this league. Without him and Bacuna we would have gone down. |
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Post by bluestripe on Aug 29, 2021 18:04:16 GMT 1
His agent isn’t stupid. Any fee we are hoping to receive Mbenza would obviously rather have himself. We’re in a terrible negotiating position and he knows it. If the club looked at Mbenza and Bacuna as a package to offload, then Bacuna's fee allegedly £1.5m will approximately cover Mbenza's wages (I expect). On that basis, club can allow him to rot in the reserves for a year, and therefore negotiating stance is strong. If Mbenza does not play for a year, his negotiating stance with a new club will be much weakened. Depends on how you look it, I suppose. |
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Post by townrwe on Aug 29, 2021 18:14:18 GMT 1
He's turned down moves already, for more pay.... not sure what he's holding out for unless he will only play in a big league.
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 18:17:37 GMT 1
That's sort of where I was coming from originally Bluestripe. If the Bacuna sale sseen as a bonus, as we could have let them both go for nowt, and we can't sell Mbenza why not simply play him? Wages paid by Bacuna. The lad can play excellent cover for Sorba Wonder.
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Post by terryya on Aug 29, 2021 18:30:49 GMT 1
There’s more chance of Simon Baldry playing for us again than Mbenza. He must be due a new contract soon which was always when he turned it on for a few months. Could be an option off the bench! |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 29, 2021 18:49:13 GMT 1
There’s more chance of Simon Baldry playing for us again than Mbenza. He must be due a new contract soon which was always when he turned it on for a few months. Could be an option off the bench! I just think bridges have been burnt on both sides. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 29, 2021 19:20:09 GMT 1
All about opinion as ever Sykeylad - you feel he's been "excellent" - fair enough, we'll agree to differ. For me Mbenza, Diakhaby and Pritchard represent so much that was wrong with our club - in terms of performances, apparent attitudes and costs at every level. Indeed Wigster, for me Mbenza would not be included in that group you cite. He would get into just about every match day squad in this league. Without him and Bacuna we would have gone down. Simply because I find that statement almost unbelievable Sykeylad - do you genuinely believe that Mbenza "would get into just about every match day squad in this league" or is it just a wind-up ? If you do rate him that highly why have no other clubs "in this league" (or lower) come in for him ? |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 19:33:12 GMT 1
Championship sides haven't been buying many players have they. There's been a pandemic in case you have not noticed. He was joint 10th with assists in the league, in a poor side and injured 2nd half. Excellent with free kicks. Pace. He'd be excellent in a good team.
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 19:38:34 GMT 1
Also, if he was not a saleable asset (because he is a very good young player) we would not have triggered his contract extension. We would have let him go, like we did with Pritchard.
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Post by steo1986 on Aug 29, 2021 19:54:12 GMT 1
There’s more chance of Simon Baldry playing for us again than Mbenza. He must be due a new contract soon which was always when he turned it on for a few months. Could be an option off the bench! Yes true he could be a option off the bench but dont you think he would be on the bench by now! at the end of the day CC dosent want him in or around the team hense why he isent anywhere near the starting line up or on the bench and like some others have said think bridges on both sides are burnt. Mbenza has already informed the club he wants to leave so really why would you want him in the team anyway!!! he dosent want to play for us so he can piss off! CC has sated he only wants players in his team that want to play for the club if you dont you stay away until the matter is resolved. seems pretty simple to me! |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 29, 2021 19:59:03 GMT 1
So someone else said, if so, fair enough (except we are paying his wages to play). I recall Carlos said he was not being considered due to uncertainty to his future. We all know that meant we are trying to sell him and rightly so, if he's on too much money for our budget. Until now never heard it reported he said he didn't want to play though.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Aug 29, 2021 20:16:15 GMT 1
Surely he gets a move. Lot of big talk around negotiations, but his agent would be a fool to leave him sat at home for a year. Kills his next move off completely.
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Post by terryya on Aug 29, 2021 22:29:49 GMT 1
He must be due a new contract soon which was always when he turned it on for a few months. Could be an option off the bench! Yes true he could be a option off the bench but dont you think he would be on the bench by now! at the end of the day CC dosent want him in or around the team hense why he isent anywhere near the starting line up or on the bench and like some others have said think bridges on both sides are burnt. Mbenza has already informed the club he wants to leave so really why would you want him in the team anyway!!! he dosent want to play for us so he can piss off! CC has sated he only wants players in his team that want to play for the club if you dont you stay away until the matter is resolved. seems pretty simple to me! I was talking about Baldry really. 🤣🤣 |
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Post by wigster on Aug 29, 2021 22:45:32 GMT 1
Championship sides haven't been buying many players have they. There's been a pandemic in case you have not noticed. He was joint 10th with assists in the league, in a poor side and injured 2nd half. Excellent with free kicks. Pace. He'd be excellent in a good team. Last comment (then I'll stop flogging it) - I thought the myth about him having much pace was destroyed long ago. He's not Campbell-slow but you won't be able to find any evidence that he is pacy. He quite simply isn't. In my view he has not produced even a fraction of what he ahould have done for the money.I think you'll agree (blame his, er, injuries?)- he has at best been a disappointment, at worst an absolute waste of an awful lot of money. He's, literally, a millionaire and we're lumbered with someone that very few people want. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 29, 2021 23:05:51 GMT 1
Championship sides haven't been buying many players have they. There's been a pandemic in case you have not noticed. He was joint 10th with assists in the league, in a poor side and injured 2nd half. Excellent with free kicks. Pace. He'd be excellent in a good team. Last comment (then I'll stop flogging it) - I thought the myth about him having much pace was destroyed long ago. He's not Campbell-slow but you won't be able to find any evidence that he is pacy. He quite simply isn't. In my view he has not produced even a fraction of what he ahould have done for the money.I think you'll agree (blame his, er, injuries?)- he has at best been a disappointment, at worst an absolute waste of an awful lot of money. He's, literally, a millionaire and we're lumbered with someone that very few people want. Weren't both him and Diakhaby clocked among the quickest in the greedy league 🤔 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 29, 2021 23:52:29 GMT 1
Last comment (then I'll stop flogging it) - I thought the myth about him having much pace was destroyed long ago. He's not Campbell-slow but you won't be able to find any evidence that he is pacy. He quite simply isn't. In my view he has not produced even a fraction of what he ahould have done for the money.I think you'll agree (blame his, er, injuries?)- he has at best been a disappointment, at worst an absolute waste of an awful lot of money. He's, literally, a millionaire and we're lumbered with someone that very few people want. Weren't both him and Diakhaby clocked among the quickest in the greedy league 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 0:15:34 GMT 1
Championship sides haven't been buying many players have they. There's been a pandemic in case you have not noticed. He was joint 10th with assists in the league, in a poor side and injured 2nd half. Excellent with free kicks. Pace. He'd be excellent in a good team. Last comment (then I'll stop flogging it) - I thought the myth about him having much pace was destroyed long ago. He's not Campbell-slow but you won't be able to find any evidence that he is pacy. He quite simply isn't. In my view he has not produced even a fraction of what he ahould have done for the money.I think you'll agree (blame his, er, injuries?)- he has at best been a disappointment, at worst an absolute waste of an awful lot of money. He's, literally, a millionaire and we're lumbered with someone that very few people want. You didn’t watch him in the Premier League then? Old trafford he scared Man U defence with a few runs and of course put the after burners on to get his goal in the home game… |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 30, 2021 7:23:05 GMT 1
The myth that he is shit, not quick and a greedy millionaire is now under pressure. 😊
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Post by terriers2000 on Aug 30, 2021 7:54:32 GMT 1
I can see him staying me, if we can't get him out by now something is wrong, thought he was good last season mbenza but yet again another player with a shite attitude, if he comes out and says he wants to play and won't act like a kid if we lose or gets sub off (pretty much a apology) I'm okay with it but surely get him out and the funds will go towards a new player🤞🙏
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