|
|
Post by morleyterrier on Feb 1, 2023 14:02:25 GMT 1
So fucking what if Newcastle are spending money to build a team to compete in the Premier League,it's long overdue, they were unlucky not to champions of England in the 90s when they were the most entertaining team in the land,they have the ground and fanbase,let them have a crack at it Good side that 90's side, shame they blew it. Liked watching such as Ginola and Asprilla play for them. |
|
|
|
Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 1, 2023 14:53:38 GMT 1
So fucking what if Newcastle are spending money to build a team to compete in the Premier League,it's long overdue, they were unlucky not to champions of England in the 90s when they were the most entertaining team in the land,they have the ground and fanbase,let them have a crack at it Good side that 90's side, shame they blew it. Liked watching such as Ginola and Asprilla play for them. I agree. What a team. Ginola was a joy to watch. My personal favourite moments from that era were , Faustino Asprilla scoring against Barcelona and then uprooting the corner flag and that Phillipe Albert chip when they trashed Man Utd. |
|
|
|
Post by sabailand on Feb 1, 2023 16:17:01 GMT 1
Vying for a champions league place or a miserable releagtion battle to avoid the third tier, i know which i'd prefer, but then again i want town to win matches.
|
|
|
|
Post by irverino on Feb 1, 2023 16:58:52 GMT 1
Good side that 90's side, shame they blew it. Liked watching such as Ginola and Asprilla play for them. I agree. What a team. Ginola was a joy to watch. My personal favourite moments from that era were , Faustino Asprilla scoring against Barcelona and then uprooting the corner flag and that Phillipe Albert chip when they trashed Man Utd. What value would those 3 players cost at today's prices? A bit more than what they have spent lately I suspect........I reckon Eddie would have won the title with that team. |
|
rickrast
Jimmy Nicholson Terrier
Posts: 1,531 
|
Post by rickrast on Feb 1, 2023 17:12:44 GMT 1
Howay the lads...inshallah!
|
|
|
|
Post by aloadofdbullocks on Feb 1, 2023 17:44:43 GMT 1
Would much rather support Town in Conference than Saudi Utd. Hope they go bust!
Which they probably will in about 60 years when the oil runs out.
|
|
digs
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
Posts: 4,141
|
Newcastle
Feb 1, 2023 18:23:22 GMT 1
via mobile
Post by digs on Feb 1, 2023 18:23:22 GMT 1
Would much rather support Town in Conference than Saudi Utd. Hope they go bust! Which they probably will in about 60 years when the oil runs out. You might get to watch Town in the conference first |
|
|
|
Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 1, 2023 19:48:04 GMT 1
I agree. What a team. Ginola was a joy to watch. My personal favourite moments from that era were , Faustino Asprilla scoring against Barcelona and then uprooting the corner flag and that Phillipe Albert chip when they trashed Man Utd. What value would those 3 players cost at today's prices? A bit more than what they have spent lately I suspect........I reckon Eddie would have won the title with that team. They were just so exciting to watch. Added to the flair players the likes of Rob Lee played out of their skins. Loved the story about Ginola when no one could understand why he’d been signed. Until they saw him on the training pitch. |
|
|
|
Post by space hardware on Feb 2, 2023 0:05:25 GMT 1
In Premier League terms they've spent moderately and are knocking on the door of Champions League qualification.
I was never a big fan of Eddie Howe before this but he's done brilliantly.
When the money really hits home they'll be challenging for the title, next season or the one after.
|
|
|
|
Newcastle
Feb 2, 2023 0:09:42 GMT 1
via mobile
Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 2, 2023 0:09:42 GMT 1
I know this is about Newcastle, but can someone confirm (or explain if not), whether this sort of transaction will result in a dilution of the share value, similar to a rights issue? What it does say to me is that we have PL owners who have the wealth to bypass FFP type rules, the amount of money involved is probably negligible considering the net worth of these owners. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64483794 |
|
paullow1
Iain Dunn Terrier
Lost magpie
Posts: 541
|
Post by paullow1 on Feb 8, 2023 16:10:55 GMT 1
This time last year they in the bottom three with a vast number of the same players who were on duty last night..........maybe some acknowledgment of Eddie Howe's ability as a top coach. hes doing a superb job. Surprised me cos I thought he'd struggle away from that small, homely Bournemouth set up he'd had for so long. Newcastle are an enormous club. If St James Park held 80,000 it would be sold out every game. I know a few of their fans since moving north and as I keep reminding them, the last time they won the title was the year after the last time Town did! Amazing really. Rebought the land near the Gallowgate end that Ashley sold a couple of years ago, so early plans in place to extend the ground. Probably looking at 65k max, as the East Stand (not one behind a goal) can't be extended due to the listed buildings behind it - not really enough, but certainly better than what it currently is, and will mean less will miss out. |
|
|
|
Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 2, 2023 14:17:36 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by nicovaesen on Mar 2, 2023 14:44:01 GMT 1
It’s weird this country has no qualms with selling arms to Saudi yet cry when they want to buy a football club
|
|
|
|
Post by Captainslapper on Mar 2, 2023 17:13:13 GMT 1
It’s weird this country has no qualms with selling arms to Saudi yet cry when they want to buy a football club Its selective outrage at its finest. We'll do all sorts of business with them. Selling them arms and technologies, buying their oil etc etc,... but them owning a football club?? outrageous! |
|
|
|
Newcastle
Mar 2, 2023 17:45:14 GMT 1
via mobile
Post by softboy on Mar 2, 2023 17:45:14 GMT 1
Haven’t the PIF fund already provided the PL with legal assurances that they are not owned by the Saudi state. Otherwise the takeover would not have been sanctioned!!
|
|
|
|
Newcastle
Mar 2, 2023 18:48:20 GMT 1
via mobile
Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 2, 2023 18:48:20 GMT 1
Haven’t the PIF fund already provided the PL with legal assurances that they are not owned by the Saudi state. Otherwise the takeover would not have been sanctioned!! Did you read the article? Look at the third paragraph, suggesting the new Chairman is actually a sitting member of the Saudi Govt. So how are the Saudi Govt not involved in the club? The PL will find a way round this anyway, I imagine that further assurances will be provided and it’ll go away. Does anyone remember the PSG stink with Qatari Airways (a Qatar Govt owned airline), when they were claiming a €200m shirt sponsorship deal was the norm? The money will generally find a way round the problem in modern football. There may be a convenient patsy or two that’ll be incentivised to fall on their sword of course. |
|
|
|
Post by morleyterrier on Mar 2, 2023 20:13:07 GMT 1
Anybody see Amanda Staveley's interview?.
All she talks about is money, money, money. Purchase price this, club value that, oh how it is worth more money than was paid for it.
Tells you all you need to know about modern day football and clubs such as Newcastle.
It's abhorrent.
|
|
|
|
Post by aloadofdbullocks on Mar 2, 2023 21:41:45 GMT 1
Chuck him out now. Obviously lied to PL to get in. Tough shit Newcastle dealing with the devil.
Also yes we shouldn’t be bloody selling arms to them either! However two wrongs do not a right make and this is the football section of DATM so we can discuss the abhorrence of the Newcastle situation without dismissing it just because of all the other dirty dealings we do with them.
LIV golf can sod off as well.😀
|
|
|
|
Newcastle
Mar 2, 2023 22:48:07 GMT 1
via mobile
Post by space hardware on Mar 2, 2023 22:48:07 GMT 1
Anybody see Amanda Staveley's interview?. All she talks about is money, money, money. Purchase price this, club value that, oh how it is worth more money than was paid for it. Tells you all you need to know about modern day football and clubs such as Newcastle. It's abhorrent. Absolutely awful person, she is. Just horrible. |
|
|
|
Post by turbo2 on Mar 2, 2023 22:54:33 GMT 1
Anybody see Amanda Staveley's interview?. All she talks about is money, money, money. Purchase price this, club value that, oh how it is worth more money than was paid for it. Tells you all you need to know about modern day football and clubs such as Newcastle. It's abhorrent. Absolutely awful person, she is. Just horrible. She was a decent looking girl 15 years ago. She’s now like a caricature of herself, bit like Katie price. Utter bonkers. Honestly think the doctors that do surgery on these types should be struck off |
|
|
|
Newcastle
Mar 3, 2023 0:16:04 GMT 1
via mobile
Post by football on Mar 3, 2023 0:16:04 GMT 1
Absolutely awful person, she is. Just horrible. She was a decent looking girl 15 years ago. She’s now like a caricature of herself, bit like Katie price. Utter bonkers. Honestly think the doctors that do surgery on these types should be struck off Maybe linked to her having Huntington's disease? |
|
|
|
Post by stinkypete on Mar 3, 2023 7:38:52 GMT 1
Some comments on this thread sum up some Town fans and their “little old Huddersfield” tin pot attitude!
“I’d rather watch Town in the conference than Saudi owners!”
Well careful what you wish for!
Like some have said, I’d rather be going to cup finals and fighting for a champions league place than having to employ a 74 year old in a desperate attempt to stay out of the 3rd tier!!
If he fails (which he probably will) we’ll be as close to the conference as the PL so some folk will happy!
|
|
|
|
Post by aloadofdbullocks on Mar 3, 2023 8:39:24 GMT 1
Some comments on this thread sum up some Town fans and their “little old Huddersfield” tin pot attitude! “I’d rather watch Town in the conference than Saudi owners!” Well careful what you wish for! Like some have said, I’d rather be going to cup finals and fighting for a champions league place than having to employ a 74 year old in a desperate attempt to stay out of the 3rd tier!! If he fails (which he probably will) we’ll be as close to the conference as the PL so some folk will happy! It’s about principles not tinpottery. I presume you would be happy if North Korea came in and put millions into Town? What about Putin? A line has to be drawn somewhere and Saudi Utd have crossed that line imo. The argument is not that Town should suffer if everybody else has these dodgy owners but that we would be able to be more competitive if these dodgy owners were not allowed at other clubs in the first place. If we got rid of all the dodgy owners Town would be more competitive. The OPPOSITE of tinpottery. |
|
|
|
Post by stinkypete on Mar 3, 2023 10:05:08 GMT 1
Some comments on this thread sum up some Town fans and their “little old Huddersfield” tin pot attitude! “I’d rather watch Town in the conference than Saudi owners!” Well careful what you wish for! Like some have said, I’d rather be going to cup finals and fighting for a champions league place than having to employ a 74 year old in a desperate attempt to stay out of the 3rd tier!! If he fails (which he probably will) we’ll be as close to the conference as the PL so some folk will happy! It’s about principles not tinpottery. I presume you would be happy if North Korea came in and put millions into Town? What about Putin? A line has to be drawn somewhere and Saudi Utd have crossed that line imo. The argument is not that Town should suffer if everybody else has these dodgy owners but that we would be able to be more competitive if these dodgy owners were not allowed at other clubs in the first place. If we got rid of all the dodgy owners Town would be more competitive. The OPPOSITE of tinpottery. Like someone else said “principles” only come into play when it involves football clubs! Ok if you’re going down the Putin analogy, If Vladimir Putin offered to give me or anyone else £5million no strings attached I doubt there’d be many that would say “no thanks”! Anyone that says they wouldn’t accept is lying to themselves! I wouldn’t care who gave me the money if it set me and my family up for life. That’s what happens with football clubs, I doubt many Man City fans care about where their success has been financed from! I do agree that it isn’t a fair playing field but other clubs fans who don’t have rich owners only complain through jealousy! |
|
|
|
Post by aloadofdbullocks on Mar 3, 2023 10:20:52 GMT 1
It’s about principles not tinpottery. I presume you would be happy if North Korea came in and put millions into Town? What about Putin? A line has to be drawn somewhere and Saudi Utd have crossed that line imo. The argument is not that Town should suffer if everybody else has these dodgy owners but that we would be able to be more competitive if these dodgy owners were not allowed at other clubs in the first place. If we got rid of all the dodgy owners Town would be more competitive. The OPPOSITE of tinpottery. Like someone else said “principles” only come into play when it involves football clubs! Ok if you’re going down the Putin analogy, If Vladimir Putin offered to give me or anyone else £5million no strings attached I doubt there’d be many that would say “no thanks”! Anyone that says they wouldn’t accept is lying to themselves! I wouldn’t care who gave me the money if it set me and my family up for life. That’s what happens with football clubs, I doubt many Man City fans care about where their success has been financed from! I do agree that it isn’t a fair playing field but other clubs fans who don’t have rich owners only complain through jealousy! Who says principles only comes into play when football is involved? See my post earlier in thread. We shouldn’t be selling arms to the Saudis! But this is the football section of the forum so we discuss football clubs. The Saudi regime executes children often after dubious confessions. That is Newcastle Utd now. If you would be happy with that then fair enough. I would disagree that that is a suitable owner of a football club. Go onto the politics page if you want to discuss the non footballing principles of arms deals etc. |
|
|
|
Post by stinkypete on Mar 3, 2023 11:07:28 GMT 1
Like someone else said “principles” only come into play when it involves football clubs! Ok if you’re going down the Putin analogy, If Vladimir Putin offered to give me or anyone else £5million no strings attached I doubt there’d be many that would say “no thanks”! Anyone that says they wouldn’t accept is lying to themselves! I wouldn’t care who gave me the money if it set me and my family up for life. That’s what happens with football clubs, I doubt many Man City fans care about where their success has been financed from! I do agree that it isn’t a fair playing field but other clubs fans who don’t have rich owners only complain through jealousy! Who says principles only comes into play when football is involved? See my post earlier in thread. We shouldn’t be selling arms to the Saudis! But this is the football section of the forum so we discuss football clubs. The Saudi regime executes children often after dubious confessions. That is Newcastle Utd now. If you would be happy with that then fair enough. I would disagree that that is a suitable owner of a football club. Go onto the politics page if you want to discuss the non footballing principles of arms deals etc. You’ve lost me! You brought principles, Putin and North Korea into it. I was on about Town fans having a tin pot attitude small club mentality! |
|
|
|
Post by Captainslapper on Mar 3, 2023 11:35:57 GMT 1
Like someone else said “principles” only come into play when it involves football clubs! Ok if you’re going down the Putin analogy, If Vladimir Putin offered to give me or anyone else £5million no strings attached I doubt there’d be many that would say “no thanks”! Anyone that says they wouldn’t accept is lying to themselves! I wouldn’t care who gave me the money if it set me and my family up for life. That’s what happens with football clubs, I doubt many Man City fans care about where their success has been financed from! I do agree that it isn’t a fair playing field but other clubs fans who don’t have rich owners only complain through jealousy! See my post earlier in thread. We shouldn’t be selling arms to the Saudis! But this is the football section of the forum so we discuss football clubs. The Saudi regime executes children often after dubious confessions. That is Newcastle Utd now. If you would be happy with that then fair enough. I would disagree that that is a suitable owner of a football club. Go onto the politics page if you want to discuss the non footballing principles of arms deals etc. It does seem to though, even just in sport, never mind business in general. The England cricket team has just toured Pakistan , a county where people are stoned to death in the street for blasphemy or adultery and the authorities largely stand idle by watching. They'll tour India.. a country that has more people living in slavery today than in the West Indies in the 18th century. Formula 1 will go to Saudi without much controversy. Tennis, golf..they all pocket the Saudi money. For some reason football always seems to be the thing which the West agonises over from our moral high ground. |
|
|
|
Post by aloadofdbullocks on Mar 3, 2023 11:37:21 GMT 1
Who says principles only comes into play when football is involved? See my post earlier in thread. We shouldn’t be selling arms to the Saudis! But this is the football section of the forum so we discuss football clubs. The Saudi regime executes children often after dubious confessions. That is Newcastle Utd now. If you would be happy with that then fair enough. I would disagree that that is a suitable owner of a football club. Go onto the politics page if you want to discuss the non footballing principles of arms deals etc. You’ve lost me! You brought principles, Putin and North Korea into it. I was on about Town fans having a tin pot attitude small club mentality! I brought principles into it and you then questioned the principles so I gave an answer. Re Tinpottery. Let’s face it a small run down Town in the North of England isn’t going to get any dodgy multi billionares/nations interested. So if we accept other football clubs being owned by these we are accepting our place in the football pyramid and will never be able to compete at the highest level. Now THAT is tinpot. |
|
|
|
Post by aloadofdbullocks on Mar 3, 2023 11:39:29 GMT 1
Who says principles only comes into play when football is involved?See my post earlier in thread. We shouldn’t be selling arms to the Saudis! But this is the football section of the forum so we discuss football clubs. The Saudi regime executes children often after dubious confessions. That is Newcastle Utd now. If you would be happy with that then fair enough. I would disagree that that is a suitable owner of a football club. Go onto the politics page if you want to discuss the non footballing principles of arms deals etc. It does seem to though, even just in sport, never mind business in general. The England cricket team has just toured Pakistan , a county where people are stoned to death in the street for blasphemy or adultery and the authorities largely stand idle by watching. They'll tour India.. a country that has more people living in slavery today than in the West Indies in the 18th century. Formula 1 will go to Saudi without much controversy. Tennis, golf..they all pocket the Saudi money. For some reason football always seems to be the thing which the West agonises over from our moral high ground. But Newcastle Utd are not just trading/playing in these places. They ARE the child murdering regime - and that should not be allowed for an English football team in my humble opinion. |
|
|
|
Post by Captainslapper on Mar 3, 2023 11:50:36 GMT 1
Theyre benefiting from Saudi money though and isnt that what the moral issue is here?
Depending on a persons political standpoint, I doubt there are many countries that dont have regimes that cant be accused of some pretty bad things, including the UK.
|
|
