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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 17:44:51 GMT 1
Imagine we do get the Playoffs and end up playing WBA or Fulham. Do we not buy tickets for it and accept our fate? Anything like he usually sets us up against the pant pissing teams, it might be a quite one sided play off tie
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Post by impact on Oct 23, 2021 17:45:28 GMT 1
Brilliant to have all our resident ‘experts’ back on here. The ones who are happier when we lose so they can put the boot in. if there were points for moaning we’d be top of the league every year. Correct theywontbstopp moaning as I have said many times they call themselves fans but they will never alter they were the same in the prem but we all knew what they would be like so ritchtfc rise above them they aren't worth the bother You call yourself a fan and do nothing but have a go at other fans.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Oct 23, 2021 17:50:03 GMT 1
Just a bit of reality for the people who spent the afternoon on here saying how crap some of our players are:
"Scott Parker's Cherries, unbeaten in 14 games this season, are the only side in the English Football League yet to have tasted defeat, and they were confident from the off.
Their surge to the top of the table has been anchored by a fine home record, with this a fifth straight win, and a miserly defence which has only conceded eight goals."
For us that was after a tough match on Wednesday night and travelling to the other end of he country. A week to recover then home to Millwall.
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Post by orinoco on Oct 23, 2021 17:56:03 GMT 1
Well, being 6th does mean something in terms of points. It also gives you a better chance with a win of returning to 6th place after a defeat than, say, being in 24th place. Strange that we haven't impressed consistently, but it just shows you can be relatively consistent in losing a few now and again, and still be in the top bunch. We have done well, far above expectations. But we haven't played every side. There's six points between 5th and 19th place and whenever we play a top side we fold. We have a long way to go yet. But the playoff talk so early on was daft. Exactly, its that kind of league, see where we are after next 3 games. My glass is half full, not half empty. Im confident we be closer to top than bottom.
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Post by mirfield74 on Oct 23, 2021 17:56:53 GMT 1
It’s frustrating really. Bournemouth are really a nothing of a club but are so far ahead of us financially it’s embarrassing. We should have gone and had more of a go but I fear the result would have been the same anyway. The gap in quality between the top 3 and the rest of the division is huge. £bn owner , a squad worth approx £200m ? ...it's just a mismatch of the relative wealth of the ownership. You could do that with any club if you were so minded...even Emley could be in the PL, playing in front of 5,000 fans...So yes, our players weren't as good as theirs, our players don't have that extra oomph that they have... if there was some 'lack of effort' from our lads you might wonder if it was a case of not risking injury in a game we were never going to win. If it weren't for the rules I'm sure Carlos would have put out a reserves team. It was more a comment on their history and size of club. You could say there a some clubs that will always be a struggle for Town. I just hate not being competitive against a club we are bigger than in every real sense apart from money
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Post by alexdire on Oct 23, 2021 18:15:11 GMT 1
Imagine we do get the Playoffs and end up playing WBA or Fulham. Do we not buy tickets for it and accept our fate? Anything like he usually sets us up against the pant pissing teams, it might be a quite one sided play off tie If we get anywhere near the playoffs I'll bare my arse on the Townhall steps. I think we are doing excellently overall. Don't have to worry about relegation and might sneak the top ten. Which will be a really good season.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Oct 23, 2021 18:16:05 GMT 1
Most people expected a defeat and thats whats happened, we`re currently 3 points off 4th place, too much knee jerk reactionism on here, if we go an 8 or 9 game run without a win then thats the time to wet yer knickers. Even the best optimists knew a defeat was incoming. It's not knee jerk, it's more the manner in which we set up, how we didn't even play for 80% of the game. 1st 45 didn't even need a keeper them. That's the only reaction I'd say people are saying and rightly so. Go pressure them, go attack them and put it on them, we aren't expected to do anything anyway. The best optimists knew a defeat was coming against Everton in the cup too, but we were positive and had a right go at them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 18:18:28 GMT 1
Even the best optimists knew a defeat was incoming. It's not knee jerk, it's more the manner in which we set up, how we didn't even play for 80% of the game. 1st 45 didn't even need a keeper them. That's the only reaction I'd say people are saying and rightly so. Go pressure them, go attack them and put it on them, we aren't expected to do anything anyway. The best optimists knew a defeat was coming against Everton in the cup too, but we were positive and had a right go at them. Exactly. Why cant we do that away. I mean he pissed his pants last season against Norwich and he has today too. I dont believe in this, saving players or performances for the so called weaker teams. Doesn't work like that as we know
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Post by cyberman on Oct 23, 2021 18:31:01 GMT 1
Well that was disappointing to say the least - guess we chalk it off and move on. Similar thing happening in the PL right now as City are about to give Brighton a right shoeing.....and that was 3rd v 4th.
Some days it just isnt meant to be. Today was that day for Town. BMuff will win this league by about a dozen points get promoted and then get their arses handed to them each week. Such is the gulf now between the PL and the Championship.
Town are in the hunt for a play off spot but need to improve on that sort of display (and the turgid affair that was Weds night). Hey ho - nothing to see - move on !
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 23, 2021 18:53:48 GMT 1
Well that was disappointing to say the least - guess we chalk it off and move on. Similar thing happening in the PL right now as City are about to give Brighton a right shoeing.....and that was 3rd v 4th. Some days it just isnt meant to be. Today was that day for Town. BMuff will win this league by about a dozen points get promoted and then get their arses handed to them each week. Such is the gulf now between the PL and the Championship. Town are in the hunt for a play off spot but need to improve on that sort of display (and the turgid affair that was Weds night). Hey ho - nothing to see - move on ! Someday?? We have re lived today, time and time again. It's not just the teams who are playing well that today has happened against, far too often. The games are for Town , a complete non event. Start slowly, remain under pressure whilst being unable to get out for a while. Mistake at the back leads to opening goal, followed by nothing much from town, a goal before half time and a second half where we produce one or two moments followed by another concession, usually a very poor goal defensively and then drift towards the end or even another goal conceded easily. We have done the above against much worse teams than Bournemouth, regularly. Our non existent start to games needs knocking on the head sharpish. More shouting and pointing before we go behind Carlos,?? Or cold water chucked over the lads just before kick off?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 19:03:24 GMT 1
Correct theywontbstopp moaning as I have said many times they call themselves fans but they will never alter they were the same in the prem but we all knew what they would be like so ritchtfc rise above them they aren't worth the bother You call yourself a fan and do nothing but have a go at other fans. Only those who over react and moan every t time town lose I certainly respect that people have other views to me but I have no respect ffor those who continue to put players and coach down when overall we are doing ok They are pathetic full stop and I'm certainly not alone in my views either
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 23, 2021 19:13:57 GMT 1
LOTS OF POINTING BUT NO POINTS!
I don't think I've seen a game with so much pointing. Perhaps Town practice this in training. Now we know that Hoggy is a great pointer, but everyone was at it today. In fact at one point (no pun intended) Hoggy was pointing with both arms simultaneously. As a fan I view this as a dereliction of duty... the pointer is not concentrating on the player he is facing, but at what might happen which is outwith his control. Just concentrate on closing down or tackling the opposition player you are up against and trust your colleagues. The only player that wasn't pointing was Sorba Thomas who either had his hands over his face or stretched out wide like Jesus of Nazareth!
Town really went at them with 20-25 minutes to go. I don't know whether this is a good or a bad thing. Does it show spirit at 3-0 down, or is it that they have forgotten the manager's instructions and decide to throw his rubbish tactics to the wind and take it into their own hands?
Today, a Sam Allardice or similar would have said at his pre-match team talk, get into them and put a few challenges in... upset their rhythm. Unfortunately the players were too busy concentrating on CC's tactical plan which included lots of pointing.
What did we learn from this?... some games suit a Corberan and some suit a Sam Allardyce. This was a Sam Allardyce game.
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Post by htfc63 on Oct 23, 2021 19:23:52 GMT 1
I must admit I will be happy when we are not going into the end of the season looking over our shoulder regarding relegation. Mid table would be a real achievement given we are lacking a centre forward threat and creativity in midfield. It’s the first time in a few years I have enjoyed some of our games and long may that continue. We are work in progress which may take a bit longer than with other clubs who have greater financial resources than ourselves. Let’s just enjoy the ride and appreciate the fact that we are moving forward albeit at a slower pace than some would like. UTT
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Post by softboy on Oct 23, 2021 19:26:02 GMT 1
7 teams joint 5th on 21 points - should be interesting few weeks to come.
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Post by bluebeard on Oct 23, 2021 19:26:34 GMT 1
I did not expect to get anything today but i did expect us to turn up at least. Giving away a stupid goal early on doesn't help and if any one thinks it will be easy against Millwall, think again a very tough game.
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Post by ACW on Oct 23, 2021 19:26:44 GMT 1
Not much to say really.
I expected a loss. We were well beaten.
I expected to lose an early goal. We did. Two infact.
I expected Billing to score/assist. He did.
I expected the game to be lost by halftime. It was.
I'm glad we seemed to have more of a go in the second half, but the game was long lost by then. I really hoped we might be a bit more aggressive/in their faces earlier on. They would still have probably won, but make the bastards work for it at least.
Luckily the Championship is full of average teams who Town are capable of beating. We are still having a good season, and we have a good opportunity to continue that. Our failure to score in 5 of the last 7 games is a worry, but we are doing far better than I expected, despite the predictable mauling on the south coast.
Need to bounce back against Millwall though. We need to see a reaction. Will be a tough game, but that doesn't mean we can't put in a positive, aggressive performance against them. We could do with one.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Oct 23, 2021 19:37:41 GMT 1
Defeat always hard to take but our season wont be defined by losing to a previously unbeaten side. It wont even be defined should we happen to not get anything from Milwall either. Get Rhodes back, maybe a bit of dealing in the Jan window and who knows.
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Post by impact on Oct 23, 2021 19:47:04 GMT 1
You call yourself a fan and do nothing but have a go at other fans. Only those who over react and moan every t time town lose I certainly respect that people have other views to me but I have no respect ffor those who continue to put players and coach down when overall we are doing ok They are pathetic full stop and I'm certainly not alone in my views either That's a total lie given the bollocks you spouted at me the other day.
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Post by specialun on Oct 23, 2021 19:57:48 GMT 1
We’re miles apart from Bournemouth a point would have been a bonus
At least it was 3 not 5
I have sympathy we played Weds eve then had to travel to Bournemouth - was never going to be easy
More disappointed we didn’t go for it / far too passive on Wednesday than today
We’re in a very similar position to where we were this time last season
Performances not as exciting in the highs but steadier and so far feels less big lows, results slightly better than performances albeit perhaps fortuitously IMO (Sheff u, Preston, few other way eg Stoke)
Stats wise (may have these wrong)
21 points = 3 points better off Scored 18 = no change Conceded 17 = 2 better
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Post by cyberman on Oct 23, 2021 19:58:05 GMT 1
Defeat always hard to take but our season wont be defined by losing to a previously unbeaten side. It wont even be defined should we happen to not get anything from Milwall either. Get Rhodes back, maybe a bit of dealing in the Jan window and who knows. Rhodes my arse - if he scores 5 goals all season it will be a miracle......another waste of a wage by a journeyman getting his final payday.....we need to get rid of these leaches and look to lower leagues for someone bursting for the chance.(as we did with Thomas) Nothing to lose if we do that - we aint scoring anyway......and a young lad on a third of the wage might go in our favour. Campbell and Rhodes have had their day - give someone else a chance
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Post by saintlyterrier on Oct 23, 2021 20:05:36 GMT 1
Very much as ACW has written.
There was no lack of effort from the players. In essence, there is not the quality throughout the team and, more signifcantly, there appears to be no game plan. Bournemouth certainly deserved to win. To any Cherries fans reading this, your side is playing much better football now under Scott Parker than it ever did under Eddie Howe. Moreover, they are a quicker, sharper and cleaner (note) side than under Howe.
Bournemouth have a confident striker who scores goals. They have an excellent playmaker in Billing. I was pleased he played well after the stupid dog's abuse he was given some Town "yoofs". Even some old farts sitting near me were equally critical. Gary Cahill was also very good, and they use the wings well.
How Town could do with a sharp striker! For all their industry, Campbell and Ward are no longer up to it. Sinani flatters to deceive. Thomas looks tired. His set pieces were poor. I suspect, however, he could have played better at RB than the hapless Turton. I can't say (without a replay) if the penalty was justified, but Turton frequently forgot that his principal role is to mark the winger! He looks frightened. Toffolo played well in the second half, but too late (he got hauled back badly in the first).
Nicholls stood little chance with the goals. But what are his goal kicks about? Now get this - Matty Pearson heads for the right wing from goal kicks nearly every time, and Nicholls doesn't kick the ball towards him. Pearson was adequate. Lees wasn't too bad at all, and Naby Sarr was, well, Naby-like. A stupid thoughtless corner here, a superb ball down the wing there.... But he was creative, and I would have taken Turton off and not him.
O'Brien and Hogg tried hard, but gave the ball away a bit and they were beaten often by quick flicks. Too clever and fast for them.
Best player for Town. Duane Holmes. Why didn't he start?
I agree with most posters here: a fox in the box striker and a creative midfielder in the January sales, please. Oh - and a clear plan and style from the manager.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 23, 2021 20:18:41 GMT 1
Just a bit of reality for the people who spent the afternoon on here saying how crap some of our players are: "Scott Parker's Cherries, unbeaten in 14 games this season, are the only side in the English Football League yet to have tasted defeat, and they were confident from the off. Their surge to the top of the table has been anchored by a fine home record, with this a fifth straight win, and a miserly defence which has only conceded eight goals." For us that was after a tough match on Wednesday night and travelling to the other end of he country. A week to recover then home to Millwall. You cant use the travelling as an excuse given Bournemouth have done far more travelling than us in the last 7 days
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Post by bluesandtwos on Oct 23, 2021 20:44:08 GMT 1
Just a bit of reality for the people who spent the afternoon on here saying how crap some of our players are: "Scott Parker's Cherries, unbeaten in 14 games this season, are the only side in the English Football League yet to have tasted defeat, and they were confident from the off. Their surge to the top of the table has been anchored by a fine home record, with this a fifth straight win, and a miserly defence which has only conceded eight goals." For us that was after a tough match on Wednesday night and travelling to the other end of he country. A week to recover then home to Millwall. You cant use the travelling as an excuse given Bournemouth have done far more travelling than us in the last 7 days It is not an excuse. Town do not need an excuse to lose away to the side who are unbeaten this season in the league and will probably go up. It was mentioned to highlight the fact it is a very tight schedule when you play Wednesday night.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 23, 2021 20:53:57 GMT 1
Correct theywontbstopp moaning as I have said many times they call themselves fans but they will never alter they were the same in the prem but we all knew what they would be like so ritchtfc rise above them they aren't worth the bother You call yourself a fan and do nothing but have a go at other fans. Instead of doing nothing but having a go at the team and calling yourself a fan?
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 23, 2021 21:12:18 GMT 1
Imagine we do get the Playoffs and end up playing WBA or Fulham. Do we not buy tickets for it and accept our fate? Anything like he usually sets us up against the pant pissing teams, it might be a quite one sided play off tie Are you on drugs ? The playoffs hahahahaha
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Post by impact on Oct 23, 2021 21:18:41 GMT 1
You call yourself a fan and do nothing but have a go at other fans. Instead of doing nothing but having a go at the team and calling yourself a fan? What?
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Post by specialun on Oct 23, 2021 21:29:52 GMT 1
Not much to say really. I expected a loss. We were well beaten. I expected to lose an early goal. We did. Two infact. I expected Billing to score/assist. He did. I expected the game to be lost by halftime. It was. I'm glad we seemed to have more of a go in the second half, but the game was long lost by then. I really hoped we might be a bit more aggressive/in their faces earlier on. They would still have probably won, but make the bastards work for it at least. Luckily the Championship is full of average teams who Town are capable of beating. We are still having a good season, and we have a good opportunity to continue that. Our failure to score in 5 of the last 7 games is a worry, but we are doing far better than I expected, despite the predictable mauling on the south coast. Need to bounce back against Millwall though. We need to see a reaction. Will be a tough game, but that doesn't mean we can't put in a positive, aggressive performance against them. We could do with one. Good post. As i posted separately I do have sympathy with playing Weds eve and then away at Bournemouth Saturday - I don’t think you could have a worse combination Milwall at home a much bigger test - As you say a positive, aggressive performance is definitely on the must do list!
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Post by orinoco on Oct 23, 2021 21:40:03 GMT 1
Not much to say really. I expected a loss. We were well beaten. I expected to lose an early goal. We did. Two infact. I expected Billing to score/assist. He did. I expected the game to be lost by halftime. It was. I'm glad we seemed to have more of a go in the second half, but the game was long lost by then. I really hoped we might be a bit more aggressive/in their faces earlier on. They would still have probably won, but make the bastards work for it at least. Luckily the Championship is full of average teams who Town are capable of beating. We are still having a good season, and we have a good opportunity to continue that. Our failure to score in 5 of the last 7 games is a worry, but we are doing far better than I expected, despite the predictable mauling on the south coast. Need to bounce back against Millwall though. We need to see a reaction. Will be a tough game, but that doesn't mean we can't put in a positive, aggressive performance against them. We could do with one. Good post. As i posted separately I do have sympathy with playing Weds eve and then away at Bournemouth Saturday - I don’t think you could have a worse combination Milwall at home a much bigger test - As you say a positive, aggressive performance is definitely on the must do list! Millwall are strange side this season, i expect another tight game similar to the Brum game
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 23, 2021 21:40:43 GMT 1
Instead of doing nothing but having a go at the team and calling yourself a fan? What? I think too many people are overtly negative when it comes to the team. Apparently criticising another fan is anathema, whereas consistent nonsense negativity toward the team is ok. Make sense?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 23, 2021 21:42:57 GMT 1
Not much to say really. I expected a loss. We were well beaten. I expected to lose an early goal. We did. Two infact. I expected Billing to score/assist. He did. I expected the game to be lost by halftime. It was. I'm glad we seemed to have more of a go in the second half, but the game was long lost by then. I really hoped we might be a bit more aggressive/in their faces earlier on. They would still have probably won, but make the bastards work for it at least. Luckily the Championship is full of average teams who Town are capable of beating. We are still having a good season, and we have a good opportunity to continue that. Our failure to score in 5 of the last 7 games is a worry, but we are doing far better than I expected, despite the predictable mauling on the south coast. Need to bounce back against Millwall though. We need to see a reaction. Will be a tough game, but that doesn't mean we can't put in a positive, aggressive performance against them. We could do with one. Good post. As i posted separately I do have sympathy with playing Weds eve and then away at Bournemouth Saturday - I don’t think you could have a worse combination Milwall at home a much bigger test - As you say a positive, aggressive performance is definitely on the must do list! I bet we flew down so I don't think we can put too much stall on the Wednesday Saturday issue. We're an average side no more, no less. People talk about a run of winnable games, Millwall have won 4 of their last 5 and are now level on points with us, Peterborough have won their last 2 and see what happens at Cardiff with a new manager, anyone who thinks we're going to steam to 9 from 9 on those on the back of today's result probably needs to think again. We seemed to put in a brighter second half performance but the defeat still stings, as every Town defeat should sting a Town fan.
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