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Post by York Terrier on May 30, 2022 18:25:24 GMT 1
Yes yes yes we need to get this lad in on a 4 year contract tomorrow
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Post by SW6 on Jun 7, 2022 12:08:19 GMT 1
I think he could tie some defences up in knots, but his agent will want a binding deal
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Post by Kenny irons on Jun 7, 2022 12:27:48 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 7, 2022 12:44:07 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better?
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Post by berlinterrier on Jun 7, 2022 13:10:23 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? I share your thoughts. Surely another season under Corberan would do Sinani the world of good too.. if he can (even slightly) better his goals and assists numbers then we’d have a really important player at this level. Edit: could we be waiting for Norwich to look at him in preseason, and then let him go for less than we had initially agreed?
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jun 7, 2022 13:29:12 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Is Sinani fully off the cards or are we simply waiting for July to confirm anything?
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 7, 2022 13:41:56 GMT 1
This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Is Sinani fully off the cards or are we simply waiting for July to confirm anything? I don't know, hope there is still a possibility.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 13:42:27 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Tom Rogic, available on a free.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 7, 2022 15:08:41 GMT 1
This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Tom Rogic, available on a free. Another one who is perfect for us, but like others, presume wages will be the deciding factor.
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on Jun 7, 2022 16:13:51 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Sinani’s level was average. About as many groans as cheers across the season. His goal and assist tallies are about the minimum you might expect from a forward who played 40-odd games . Frequently anonymous, and Corberàn seemed to agree as he was regularly subbed off (including 3 times at half time). If we were to spend more than we have on any player since Karlan Grant, we should be expecting better
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Post by The Lightening Bomber on Jun 7, 2022 16:35:43 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money When you say silly money what do you mean? Some probably think that when we ask 10-12 for LOB. I would suggest 4-5 million would be going rate for Twine in this market.
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jun 7, 2022 16:39:07 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money It’s time to man the fuck up and go for it.
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Post by ashfieldterrier on Jun 7, 2022 16:43:23 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money It’s time to man the fuck up and go for it. ⬆️⬆️ This
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Post by pilks123 on Jun 7, 2022 17:16:58 GMT 1
Unbelievable talent Would be perfect for us Unfortunately club and agent are asking for silly money It’s time to man the fuck up and go for it. If the rumours of o'brien leaving are true then very much this. As much as I have faith in the recruitment/coaching teams to improve lower league players, there occasionally comes a point where we need to take a punt on talent. Feels a bit like the Nakhi Wells signing all over again, Twine is tearing it up and rightly POTS in league 1 level but unproven in the championship. If we're on to a potential windfall from the wembley money and sales we should at least be in the conversation. Makes me wonder if there's been premier enquiries pushing him out of our wage budget.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 7, 2022 17:22:02 GMT 1
This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Tom Rogic, available on a free. I've always liked Rogic but my impression is that he's past his best. You will have seen far more of him than me, do you think he can still do a good job for us? Just seen he is only 29, so what's not to like, though I thought he hadn't been a regular Celtic starter lately?
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 7, 2022 17:30:40 GMT 1
This is my concern about not taking Sinani back, silly money for players that have not played at the same level Sinani has now, who can we get for the £1m quoted that will be better? Sinani’s level was average. About as many groans as cheers across the season. His goal and assist tallies are about the minimum you might expect from a forward who played 40-odd games . Frequently anonymous, and Corberàn seemed to agree as he was regularly subbed off (including 3 times at half time). If we were to spend more than we have on any player since Karlan Grant, we should be expecting better I think Sinani did well playing at the highest level of his career to date & I think he will only kick on from it. Your argument about him often being subbed is more than countered, IMO, by the fact that Carlos started him so many times.
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Post by arry11 on Jun 7, 2022 18:30:15 GMT 1
Sinani’s level was average. About as many groans as cheers across the season. His goal and assist tallies are about the minimum you might expect from a forward who played 40-odd games . Frequently anonymous, and Corberàn seemed to agree as he was regularly subbed off (including 3 times at half time). If we were to spend more than we have on any player since Karlan Grant, we should be expecting better I think Sinani did well playing at the highest level of his career to date & I think he will only kick on from it. Your argument about him often being subbed is more than countered, IMO, by the fact that Carlos started him so many times. We don't know what the management have in store for the team and rumours about Mcatee are still on going so maybe we have different targets to look for and use our budget wisely.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 18:41:17 GMT 1
Tom Rogic, available on a free. I've always liked Rogic but my impression is that he's past his best. You will have seen far more of him than me, do you think he can still do a good job for us? Just seen he is only 29, so what's not to like, though I thought he hadn't been a regular Celtic starter lately? He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years.
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Post by arry11 on Jun 7, 2022 20:40:03 GMT 1
I've always liked Rogic but my impression is that he's past his best. You will have seen far more of him than me, do you think he can still do a good job for us? Just seen he is only 29, so what's not to like, though I thought he hadn't been a regular Celtic starter lately? He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. Attacking wise it would look good but we also need cover CM and DM anything happens to Russel and Hoggy we would be struggling
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 7, 2022 20:49:40 GMT 1
I've always liked Rogic but my impression is that he's past his best. You will have seen far more of him than me, do you think he can still do a good job for us? Just seen he is only 29, so what's not to like, though I thought he hadn't been a regular Celtic starter lately? He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. If we get £12m for O’Brien I very much doubt all would be reinvested in the squad. Maybe £3-4m if we're lucky.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 21:01:40 GMT 1
He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. Attacking wise it would look good but we also need cover CM and DM anything happens to Russel and Hoggy we would be struggling Yes you are right, might be worth a loan or someone like Levitt from Man U/Dundee U on a free. Shame that Austerfield didn’t get game time last season and hasn’t come through yet.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 21:02:57 GMT 1
He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. If we get £12m for O’Brien I very much doubt all would be reinvested in the squad. Maybe £3-4m if we're lucky. Boring 🤣 but you are 99.9% right. I hope that 0.1% chance comes through 🙏
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Post by arry11 on Jun 7, 2022 21:17:18 GMT 1
Attacking wise it would look good but we also need cover CM and DM anything happens to Russel and Hoggy we would be struggling Yes you are right, might be worth a loan or someone like Levitt from Man U/Dundee U on a free. Shame that Austerfield didn’t get game time last season and hasn’t come through yet. 2 or 3 good loans then use the coin to fill in the blanks we need to get the balance right.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 7, 2022 21:55:00 GMT 1
If we get £12m for O’Brien I very much doubt all would be reinvested in the squad. Maybe £3-4m if we're lucky. Boring 🤣 but you are 99.9% right. I hope that 0.1% chance comes through 🙏 Don't get me wrong, I'd love Twine here but I reckon most of the Championship would too. A more realistic buy from league 1 would be Anthony Scully from Lincoln. 15 goals with 7 assists from the wing last season, just turned 23 & looks a talent. Would still cost afew quid but probably half of what MK are wanting for Twine.
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Post by arry11 on Jun 7, 2022 22:14:47 GMT 1
Boring 🤣 but you are 99.9% right. I hope that 0.1% chance comes through 🙏 Don't get me wrong, I'd love Twine here but I reckon most of the Championship would too. A more realistic buy from league 1 would be Anthony Scully from Lincoln. 15 goals with 7 assists from the wing last season, just turned 23 & looks a talent. Would still cost afew quid but probably half of what MK are wanting for Twine. Probably at the back of a long queue for Twine and given we need a good few players i cant see him joining us but stranger things happen.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 7, 2022 22:17:39 GMT 1
More chance of signing Scott Robinson from Ramsey Street Rovers
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Post by Mr Breitside on Jun 7, 2022 22:26:36 GMT 1
I've always liked Rogic but my impression is that he's past his best. You will have seen far more of him than me, do you think he can still do a good job for us? Just seen he is only 29, so what's not to like, though I thought he hadn't been a regular Celtic starter lately? He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. IMO there is not a chance we will be spending half of any o'Brien and Wembley money. We have massive debts still to service and our normal income is not enough to pay any of it off.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 7, 2022 22:32:09 GMT 1
I've always liked Rogic but my impression is that he's past his best. You will have seen far more of him than me, do you think he can still do a good job for us? Just seen he is only 29, so what's not to like, though I thought he hadn't been a regular Celtic starter lately? He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. That's what most fans would want to see but we seem to be going down the path of League 1 centre backs and non league bean poles. It's all a bit underwhelming really if our transfer targets are to be believed, these seem the most credible ones. If we signed that Twine lad, who looks decent, first team ready hit the ground running, it would be something. I don't think that is Carlos' style either, out and out attacking football.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 22:39:43 GMT 1
He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. IMO there is not a chance we will be spending half of any o'Brien and Wembley money. We have massive debts still to service and our normal income is not enough to pay any of it off. Hi Dean 👋
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 7, 2022 22:50:53 GMT 1
He had arguably his best year this year at Celtic under the former Australian manager Ange Postecoglou. It was the 20/21 year where he had a stinker, but that was because the manager didn’t know how to use him. He’s played best in high possession high press teams, when he’s allowed to pick up positions in between the midfield and striker. To get the best out of him, we would need a better striker with proper movement, not a Ward work hard, but one who makes clever runs in behind because through balls are his strength. If I had £12m from the sale of O’Brien to spend, assuming you could get Twine for £5m, I’d also get the current top scorer in Japan, Ueda, who you could pick up for £2-3m, with a front 3 of Twine Ueda Thomas with Rogic in behind, I think you would have an attack that Championship teams really feared. With Twine hitting free kicks from around the box and Sorba swinging them in from out wide, Rogic would run riot because teams would be scared to touch him, unlike in Scotland where they just hack away. That’s only £8m of the £12m spent and the other £4m could go to increased wages to get Twine and Rogic, but also for Toff and Nichols. To me, that would be us having a real go for 2-3 years. That's what most fans would want to see but we seem to be going down the path of League 1 centre backs and non league bean poles. It's all a bit underwhelming really if our transfer targets are to be believed, these seem the most credible ones. If we signed that Twine lad, who looks decent, first team ready hit the ground running, it would be something. I don't think that is Carlos' style either, out and out attacking football. First season was more attacking, but we shipped way too many goals. This year was obviously much more defensive, and we almost got there. IMO it’s just about having that bit more quality in the final third. As much as Ward, Sinani and Holmes worked their socks off, they aren’t ever making the step up to the premier league, and the final third is where we need our investment.
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