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Post by yorkshiretripod on May 29, 2022 22:10:43 GMT 1
I thought our approach second half showed what a mistake the first half approach turned out to be. For me, when you invite as much pressure as we did in the first half, all it takes is a mis-hit shot that deflects off another player to go a goal down.
Too many times second half, when we found ourselves in a similar position to Yates with the goal, we didn't try the same thing, chose a safer option to the wing, from where we out yet another dead rubber of a cross. Just felt we underplayed our ability today.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 29, 2022 22:12:14 GMT 1
If the O'Brien foul wasn't checked by VAR,why wasn't it or who instigates a check? Whoever the powers that be want to win, if thats forests that’s checked and awarded sadly |
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Post by saintlyterrier on May 29, 2022 22:12:38 GMT 1
Imagine the outcry if Johnson had been kicked as many times as O Brien got taken out. Glad someone else spotted that. He was clattered five times before a card was shown.👍 I thought Johnson was poor and really quite niggly. Why all the fuss about him prior to the match? He will not do well in the Premier League. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on May 29, 2022 22:15:27 GMT 1
or where I am now - the train from Kings Cross to Wakey. You’d have thought Town had won by the sounds of revelry coming from coach C on the 21:05 out of kings x 🥳 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 29, 2022 22:21:40 GMT 1
However pissed off we all are, sadly, we’re tomorrow’s fish and chip paper.
The club need to dust themselves down, try and keep this squad together and maintain some momentum next season.
I don’t get this poor side tag. We got 83 points FFS, poor teams don’t do that. We were done in a game of fine margins today, not helped by officialdom, but we’re far from being a crap side.
I actually think our success has been built from the back this season, and I don’t see how that back line should change much. Whilst we have Thomas we just need someone up front that can capitalise on the chances he creates.
Midfield will be the one are of concern because it’s going to be difficult to retain O’ Brien for another season. He’s an absolute catalyst for us, and I’m still amazed that teams struggle with him so much, given they know what he’s going to do. He’s probably our most fouled player by a long way.
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Post by saintlyterrier on May 29, 2022 22:23:10 GMT 1
What about when the ball went to cooper for our throw in and he rolled it away from Toffolo. Pathetic c***. VAR and the penalties has already been done to death, but what about all the rotational fouling on O’Brien in the first half. Must’ve been hacked down 5 times when he’s gone past his man and was running on the defence and Moss let them get away with just a free kick every time. After a few times he should’ve called the captain over and told them it’s a yellow card every time. Piss weak. We were crap mate, simple. I'm miffed about the performce, tactics and the general way we went about the game. You'll get criticised over that comment, but you're absolutely right. Lack of impetus in the play. Forest were there for the taking, but Town failed to use the fast counter-attacks that had served so well this season.The full backs were dire, and that includes Toffolo, who can do no wrong in many fans' eyes, but did nothing right today. First penalty claim probably not proven, but the second one was a stonewaller. Nonetheless, even if Town didn't deserve to lose, neither they nor Forest deserved to win.
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 29, 2022 22:24:55 GMT 1
Glad someone else spotted that. He was clattered five times before a card was shown.👍 I thought Johnson was poor and really quite niggly. Why all the fuss about him prior to the match? He will not do well in the Premier League. Completely agree, a decent defender and the top league has an abundance shuts him out of the game. He’s NEVER going to make it at the highest level, my prediction . Time will tell. |
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Post by Uddersfield on May 29, 2022 22:34:09 GMT 1
Don’t know if it’s just me but I felt like the whole day was just slightly off.
The Torch wasn’t very good. 45 mins to get served.. the odd chant going off but that was about it. First time we’ve gone to the ground early to drink!
Crowd again was.. meh.. game was.. meh.. just didn’t get the play-off final jibes like I did previously. Might just be me being a boring bastard tbf.
Even now we’ve lost I still feel a bit.. meh
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Post by Kenny irons on May 29, 2022 22:35:42 GMT 1
Im gutted I won't lie guys and I'm even more angry to come home to find out we should of had atleast 1 penalty, maybe even 2.
Im not going to rant and rave though simply because our lads and staff have been superb all season and if getting cheated out of game makes the powers of be happy so be it.
Keep the core of the squad together and we will be fine next season.
Good luck to forest in the premier league but its not all its cracked up to be.
TTID UTT
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Post by Larry David on May 29, 2022 22:40:00 GMT 1
Don’t know if it’s just me but I felt like the whole day was just slightly off. The Torch wasn’t very good. 45 mins to get served.. the odd chant going off but that was about it. First time we’ve gone to the ground early to drink! Crowd again was.. meh.. game was.. meh.. just didn’t get the play-off final jibes like I did previously. Might just be me being a boring bastard tbf. This. Flat all day. Poor atmosphere in the ground. Not many chants near us. Felt like I was at a concert. Wembley is not that great I think. I got my son some chicken strips with chips and a glass of water... £14.50...outrageous. Also... A goofy DJ Popcorn Getting in and out horrific Fan zone was OK though Forest fans inside ground created a decent atmosphere I felt. Fair play they seemed to enjoy themselves |
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Post by space hardware on May 29, 2022 22:41:23 GMT 1
Pedantic post, but a point of order. Wasn’t the shot we had from our first corner on target? Means nothing of course, but I don’t think we played as badly as some would think, when you consider the occasion etc. Forest did zilch in that second half, other than win that corner on the right. We lacked cutting edge, absolutely we did, but I thought we probably shaded the game in terms of overall performance. Two poor sides doing their best not to lose the game in 90 mins, and it took a crap deflection to win the game. I think it either has to be a goal or the keeper has to make a save for it to be technically a shot on target for the stats. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on May 29, 2022 22:42:19 GMT 1
Im gutted I won't lie guys and I'm even more angry to come home to find out we should of had atleast 1 penalty, maybe even 2. Im not going to rant and rave though simply because our lads and staff have been superb all season and if getting cheated out of game makes the powers of be happy so be it. Keep the core of the squad together and we will be fine next season. Good luck to forest in the premier league but its not all its cracked up to be. TTID UTT Completely agree. Forest in good voice in all the pubs I went to pre match, Town fans barely made a peep. Also, the amount of people popping out during the first half and coming back 10 mins later with a burger a chips was insane. |
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Post by gazramataz83 on May 29, 2022 22:44:26 GMT 1
I think recent history definitely played a part, the ultimate prize just wasn't a big enough draw for town fans compared to forest fans. It was an enjoyable day but definitely didn't feel like an all or nothing atmosphere from town fans before, during or after the game.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 29, 2022 22:44:29 GMT 1
Don’t know if it’s just me but I felt like the whole day was just slightly off. The Torch wasn’t very good. 45 mins to get served.. the odd chant going off but that was about it. First time we’ve gone to the ground early to drink! Crowd again was.. meh.. game was.. meh.. just didn’t get the play-off final jibes like I did previously. Might just be me being a boring bastard tbf. This. Flat all day. Poor atmosphere in the ground. Not many chants near us. Felt like I was at a concert. Wembley is not that great I think. I got my son some chicken strips with chips and a glass of water... £14.50...outrageous. Also... A goofy DJ Popcorn Getting in and out horrific Fan zone was OK though Forest fans inside ground created a decent atmosphere I felt. Fair play they seemed to enjoy themselves The Forest supporters were pumped, understandably. The lads in our box were so up for it, they’ve been starved of any sort of success for nearly as long as we were before the PL promotion. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 29, 2022 22:48:23 GMT 1
Pedantic post, but a point of order. Wasn’t the shot we had from our first corner on target? Means nothing of course, but I don’t think we played as badly as some would think, when you consider the occasion etc. Forest did zilch in that second half, other than win that corner on the right. We lacked cutting edge, absolutely we did, but I thought we probably shaded the game in terms of overall performance. Two poor sides doing their best not to lose the game in 90 mins, and it took a crap deflection to win the game. I think it either has to be a goal or the keeper has to make a save for it to be technically a shot on target for the stats. That’s even more pedantic than my original post. So you can batter a side, but hit the first defender and it doesn’t get counted? I was pleasantly surprised by that corner routine, unfortunately the others we had weren’t up to the same quality as we’ve been used to. UTT!!! |
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Post by impact on May 29, 2022 22:52:40 GMT 1
Don’t know if it’s just me but I felt like the whole day was just slightly off. The Torch wasn’t very good. 45 mins to get served.. the odd chant going off but that was about it. First time we’ve gone to the ground early to drink! Crowd again was.. meh.. game was.. meh.. just didn’t get the play-off final jibes like I did previously. Might just be me being a boring bastard tbf. Even now we’ve lost I still feel a bit.. meh It's the price of 2017. I'm not gutted we lost. I wasn't that excited leading up to the game. We've been there and done it and have busted the myth that the Premier League is all fantastic. I remember not understand the Reading fans' reaction after the 2017 final. They didn't seem that fussed. I get it now. The players probably deserved more. For the majority of them this was the biggest game of their careers, but it wasn't ours as fans. My town supporting life peaked on 29th May 2017. Sadly I'm pretty sure I'll never see anything that tops it. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on May 29, 2022 23:12:26 GMT 1
Don’t know if it’s just me but I felt like the whole day was just slightly off. The Torch wasn’t very good. 45 mins to get served.. the odd chant going off but that was about it. First time we’ve gone to the ground early to drink! Crowd again was.. meh.. game was.. meh.. just didn’t get the play-off final jibes like I did previously. Might just be me being a boring bastard tbf. Even now we’ve lost I still feel a bit.. meh Agree Maybe we all didn't quite want it enough Personally Burnley away and Watford away are more appealing than the snorefest that was Anfield and Old Trafford a couple of years ago |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 29, 2022 23:31:12 GMT 1
These posts will be viewed as Town fans trying to kid their way out of the defeat, but the PL really is starting to move away from the true supporters. If you think about it, there’s a finite amount of supporters that can get to games, and much of it is aimed at global subscribers and the betting opportunities it presents.
Promotion from the Championship is almost seen by some of the supporters of the bigger clubs, as allowing those clubs a glimpse of a different life, but it’s all quite homogenised in some respects. They don’t want another outlier like Leicester to happen again, and have welcomed in more questionable owners with Newcastle. As much as it’ll rile a few on here, Leeds are a bigger club than us, and have some standing, but even they’re one of the minnows in that league, same goes for Villa.
The PL would have been a nice adventure, but we’d certainly have made to feel unwelcome…
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on May 29, 2022 23:35:23 GMT 1
Don’t know if it’s just me but I felt like the whole day was just slightly off. The Torch wasn’t very good. 45 mins to get served.. the odd chant going off but that was about it. First time we’ve gone to the ground early to drink! Crowd again was.. meh.. game was.. meh.. just didn’t get the play-off final jibes like I did previously. Might just be me being a boring bastard tbf. Even now we’ve lost I still feel a bit.. meh Agree Maybe we all didn't quite want it enough Personally Burnley away and Watford away are more appealing than the snorefest that was Anfield and Old Trafford a couple of years ago Snore fest cos we were shit the Prem is everything anything else is tinpot you surely know this ? |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 29, 2022 23:47:54 GMT 1
Guh.
That felt flat.
The pen decisions are baffling, however we shouldn't have to rely on a pen to keep us in the game. We just didn't create enough, 0 shots on target?!
I don't want to knock CC because he far exceeded expectations, but Russell on the bench? Tino not brought on when we are chasing the game? Couple of odd decisions there.
Hopefully we can dust ourselves off and go again next season. I hope we can keep as many of CC, Nicholls, Toffolo, O'Brien and Thomas as possible. Bring in a few more quality bodies in and we can be right up in the mix again next season.
Fairplay to Forest, losing what 6 of their first 7 games, to winning the playoff final and being promoted. Cooper has done an absolute job there
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Post by zmann on May 29, 2022 23:59:53 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thought our tactics worked? We restricted a very dangerous Forest side to a handful of chances in the first half and then took the game to them second. They were there for the taking, we just didn’t play well going forwards. But not sure Carlos got the set up wrong. We will never know what would have happened if we went at them from the off but we would have been more open to a fresh Forest attack and maybe not had as much in the tank for the second half. If we had the rub of the green there would only have been one winner in extra time.
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Post by sonny on May 30, 2022 0:03:14 GMT 1
That's five consecutive play off finals where we have failed to score. Quite a record.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on May 30, 2022 0:05:39 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thought our tactics worked? We restricted a very dangerous Forest side to a handful of chances in the first half and then took the game to them second. They were there for the taking, we just didn’t play well going forwards. But not sure Carlos got the set up wrong. We will never know what would have happened if we went at them from the off but we would have been more open to a fresh Forest attack and maybe not had as much in the tank for the second half. If we had the rub of the green there would only have been one winner in extra time. This probably isn't far wrong. They weren't exactly peppering our goal when they scored, and it was a horrible stroke of bad luck for Colwill. Other than they offered virtually nothing, although ultimately our lack of creativity let us down. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 30, 2022 0:07:19 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thought our tactics worked? We restricted a very dangerous Forest side to a handful of chances in the first half and then took the game to them second. They were there for the taking, we just didn’t play well going forwards. But not sure Carlos got the set up wrong. We will never know what would have happened if we went at them from the off but we would have been more open to a fresh Forest attack and maybe not had as much in the tank for the second half. If we had the rub of the green there would only have been one winner in extra time. Are you saying that our tactics were to contain Forest and play for a 0-0 or a lucky draw in a game if such magnitude? If do, Corberan must be shown the door immediately. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 30, 2022 0:16:26 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thought our tactics worked? We restricted a very dangerous Forest side to a handful of chances in the first half and then took the game to them second. They were there for the taking, we just didn’t play well going forwards. But not sure Carlos got the set up wrong. We will never know what would have happened if we went at them from the off but we would have been more open to a fresh Forest attack and maybe not had as much in the tank for the second half. If we had the rub of the green there would only have been one winner in extra time. Are you saying that our tactics were to contain Forest and play for a 0-0 or a lucky draw in a game if such magnitude? If do, Corberan must be shown the door immediately. Zmann is spot on actually |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 30, 2022 0:20:53 GMT 1
Are you saying that our tactics were to contain Forest and play for a 0-0 or a lucky draw in a game if such magnitude? If do, Corberan must be shown the door immediately. Zmann is spot on actually He could have saved us all a couple of 100 notes if that was the case then, all watched it at home on the box. |
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Post by townrwe on May 30, 2022 0:25:02 GMT 1
Matchfixing..... corruption ?
A mistake by a ref is acceptable, not to be picked up by VAR is questionable, a 2nd mistake from the ref is questionable not to be picked up by VAR??? If its not matchfixing it's premier league corruption. I feel it should be investigated by the police, you don't make 4 independent mistakes like that today.
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Post by griffa on May 30, 2022 0:41:25 GMT 1
Guh. That felt flat. The pen decisions are baffling, however we shouldn't have to rely on a pen to keep us in the game. We just didn't create enough, 0 shots on target?! I don't want to knock CC because he far exceeded expectations, but Russell on the bench? Tino not brought on when we are chasing the game? Couple of odd decisions there. Hopefully we can dust ourselves off and go again next season. I hope we can keep as many of CC, Nicholls, Toffolo, O'Brien and Thomas as possible. Bring in a few more quality bodies in and we can be right up in the mix again next season. Fairplay to Forest, losing what 6 of their first 7 games, to winning the playoff final and being promoted. Cooper has done an absolute job there Penalties are part of our game, as are corners & freekicks, goals scored from penalties, free kicks & corners, are completely legitimate. Jon Moss is a poor Referee, good riddance, he'll not be missed, he made 2 mistakes, not awarding penalties to Town, in the 2nd half - UTT. |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 30, 2022 0:45:34 GMT 1
I'm more cross at VAR than Moss honestly.
Especially with the Toffolo one, that was referred, and still not given. Clear as day that one!
Not sure why the LOB wasn't taken up...was that because the referee didn't check, or because we didn't ask?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 30, 2022 0:46:48 GMT 1
Guh. That felt flat. The pen decisions are baffling, however we shouldn't have to rely on a pen to keep us in the game. We just didn't create enough, 0 shots on target?! I don't want to knock CC because he far exceeded expectations, but Russell on the bench? Tino not brought on when we are chasing the game? Couple of odd decisions there. Hopefully we can dust ourselves off and go again next season. I hope we can keep as many of CC, Nicholls, Toffolo, O'Brien and Thomas as possible. Bring in a few more quality bodies in and we can be right up in the mix again next season. Fairplay to Forest, losing what 6 of their first 7 games, to winning the playoff final and being promoted. Cooper has done an absolute job there Penalties are part of our game, as are corners & freekicks, goals scored from penalties, free kicks & corners, are completely legitimate. Jon Moss is a poor Referee, good riddance, he'll not be missed, he made 2 mistakes, not awarding penalties to Town, in the 2nd half - UTT. We didn't really do anything with corners today's, aside from the training ground routine which was blocked. |
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