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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 30, 2022 17:00:22 GMT 1
The whole reffing scenario in appointing Moss was a shitshow and most of us saw this coming once it was announced. The standard of reffing in this country is farcical, as is their complete lack of accountability. Why do they get to just remain silent? They are highly paid professionals, not amateurs reffing u15s games. It’s such a ridiculous scenario where sheer arrogance overpowers basic common sense. I mean, anyone would think that VAR would be welcomed by ALL officials to help them out and come to the right decisions. Yet they clearly don’t want, or care, about making the right calls for the sport, it’s all about them not being questioned or getting things wrong. ‘I’m the ref, I don’t want you going against me, just tell me when I’m right!’ I used to laugh at people with conspiracy theories but it really does make you think. It’s not as if there’s a lot of money involved in games like yesterday, and there aren’t a lot of powerful people that can have an impact on these occasions. Wouldn’t surprise you would it? |
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Post by saintlyterrier on May 30, 2022 17:23:58 GMT 1
My son, who is (principally) a Saints supporter, has been saying for years that he considers that Moss is corrupt. He was with me at Wembley yesterday saying "told you so". It might have made him feel better. I didn't....
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Post by Mastercracker on May 30, 2022 17:24:11 GMT 1
The whole reffing scenario in appointing Moss was a shitshow and most of us saw this coming once it was announced. The standard of reffing in this country is farcical, as is their complete lack of accountability. Why do they get to just remain silent? They are highly paid professionals, not amateurs reffing u15s games. It’s such a ridiculous scenario where sheer arrogance overpowers basic common sense. I mean, anyone would think that VAR would be welcomed by ALL officials to help them out and come to the right decisions. Yet they clearly don’t want, or care, about making the right calls for the sport, it’s all about them not being questioned or getting things wrong. ‘I’m the ref, I don’t want you going against me, just tell me when I’m right!’ I used to laugh at people with conspiracy theories but it really does make you think. It’s not as if there’s a lot of money involved in games like yesterday, and there aren’t a lot of powerful people that can have an impact on these occasions. Wouldn’t surprise you would it? FWIW I dont think there’s a conspiracy, backhanders or overriding instructions to get Forest up etc. I do think that refs are massively and subconsciously affected by the media. For the average championship game the refs are just useless but liable to be useless either way. But once you get to the premier league or games like yesterday, with massive media coverage it affects decisions. Shaft Huddersfield town and its news for 12 hours and nobody outside Huddersfield really cares. Shaft Forest and it’s news for much longer and the abuse the ref gets is worse. The above ramps up to a whole different level when the likes of Liverpool are involved. Give a pen against them and cost them points and if it’s seen to be wrong the likes of Carragher and Neville are on about it for a week. Give Liverpool a shite pen against Huddersfield (or Forest) and nobody ultimately gives a shit outside of the shafted clubs fanbase and it gets fuck all coverage. Which road is a weak ref gonna go down… I think most of the shit Moss is getting for yesterday is because his appointment had already been called a farce, and because it’s one last chance for everyone to stick the boot into Moss who’s been overweight and shite for years. Nobody really cares that’s it’s fucked us over. |
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Post by Porrohman on May 30, 2022 18:15:22 GMT 1
Again, forgive it being my own tweet. As a luddite I can't just put photo's on here
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 30, 2022 18:24:27 GMT 1
Again, forgive it being my own tweet. As a luddite I can't just put photo's on here Please dont equate disability with a fat cheat who has nothing wrong with him that less pies, more exercise and a fucking backbone wont cure. Its not appropriate. |
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Post by alfredsterrier on May 30, 2022 18:37:06 GMT 1
The standard of refereeing has gone down hill for a long time. I can’t understand why they get demoted to the championship when they make a mistake as if it’s ok to get things wrong at our level🤷🏻♂️ They also love to  away the captain who is the one person on the pitch who is allowed to talk to them. I agree that they are probably as rubbish for each team though. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 30, 2022 18:56:21 GMT 1
They just said on Look North that the group in charge of the referees refused to comment or give an interview but it is believed they feel the referee/VAR made the right decisions
What chance has football got over here if you're being patted on the back for decisions like that. It's no wonder the standards slip year on year
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Post by goodbet on May 30, 2022 19:01:54 GMT 1
VAR was bought into the final beacuse of the magnitude of the prize to be won and to help get the big decisions right in the spirit of fairness. The fact the 2nd penalty appeal didn't even go to VAR is a head scratcher. But we've not had any luck with penalty decisions in all 3 play off games. Bad luck or a conspiracy?? Either way it's not sour grapes re VAR and the penalties - had we been given one penalty & scored we would only have been level. We played well enough second half to be in the game, the momentum would have been with us & who knows what would have happened then. Thats what the bad taste is in my mouth and I reckon any other fan of any another club who was dealt those harsh cards woud feel that as well. VAR is managed differently by the authorities in the UK to that in any other region. It appears to be brought in to get the results that the powers that be want than rectifying any erroneous decisions. If you watch enough football on the TV the outcome from VAR is about looking after the big clubs. I have tried refereeing matches and it is not easy and they will make mistakes that we can all give them some rope for, but being above the game and having VAR to hand and then refuse to make any comment they should all be sacked not promoted. |
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Post by Porrohman on May 30, 2022 19:22:53 GMT 1
Again, forgive it being my own tweet. As a luddite I can't just put photo's on here Please dont equate disability with a fat cheat who has nothing wrong with him that less pies, more exercise and a fucking backbone wont cure. Its not appropriate. So you won't like this one either then |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 30, 2022 19:32:27 GMT 1
Please dont equate disability with a fat cheat who has nothing wrong with him that less pies, more exercise and a fucking backbone wont cure. Its not appropriate. So you won't like this one either then Love the Stevie Wonder one. |
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Post by sicktodeath on May 30, 2022 19:41:23 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 30, 2022 19:44:38 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish Thanks for the incisive summary. |
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Post by impact on May 30, 2022 19:47:21 GMT 1
Very interesting analysis from an objective source. We need to channel this frustration to motivate the players and finish top 2 next season. He isn't objective. He lays into refs constantly, making out like it was far better when he was running the referees. People use him for confirmation bias because he'll normally side against the refs. |
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Post by nicovaesen on May 30, 2022 19:50:05 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish So if we’d had twenty five shots on target and not scored that would be different? |
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Post by sicktodeath on May 30, 2022 19:50:20 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish Thanks for the incisive summary. just making it clear and simple for the brain dead people thinking that we should of had 2 pens |
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Post by sicktodeath on May 30, 2022 19:52:13 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish So if we’d had twenty five shots on target and not scored that would be different? better then 0 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 30, 2022 20:08:03 GMT 1
Thanks for the incisive summary. just making it clear and simple for the brain dead people thinking that we should of had 2 pens You’re obviously on a baiting attempt, but I’ll bite. As others have pointed out, we might have had 2 shots on target, perhaps goals even, if those players hadn’t been fouled. How many attempts on target did Forest have? Apparently that one we had early doors doesn’t count because it’s got to reach the keeper for the stattos? That tells you all about what a load of bollocks modern day, media driven football has become. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 30, 2022 20:22:22 GMT 1
just making it clear and simple for the brain dead people thinking that we should of had 2 pens You’re obviously on a baiting attempt, but I’ll bite. As others have pointed out, we might have had 2 shots on target, perhaps goals even, if those players hadn’t been fouled. How many attempts on target did Forest have? Apparently that one we had early doors doesn’t count because it’s got to reach the keeper for the stattos? That tells you all about what a load of bollocks modern day, media driven football has become. The on target goal attempts was 2. Colvil and a long shot from forest in the second half that barely reached. Both teams could have had a dozen or more on target and it does not change the fact that clear and obvious penalties were not given and the reasoning given is utter bollocks. The better team did not win, so that old load of shite about teams getting the reward of really poor decisions is ok because they 'deserved' them, does not fit either. The almost 100% of unbiased comment stating they cannot understand the non decisions is unheard of before in the game. Have spoken to lads today who support a variety of teams around the country, have no love for Town or anything against Forest, its clear from them we should have had 2 penalties. No dissenters.. Never seen it before other than when Beckham got sent off for nothing for England. How Town or Forest performed should never have anything to do with the decisions given. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 30, 2022 20:32:15 GMT 1
So you won't like this one either then Love the Stevie Wonder one. Nah, using a disability to take the piss out of a non disabled persons failings or stupidity isnt big or clever. Try it with some mentally ill person as the ref or var, see the reaction. You could show him dropping his pants and sucking his thumb, whilst shaking his head about so he misses the incident??? The last bloke i was trying to help, thats what he does under pressure.He used to defuse ordnance, hundreds of times. Laugh? Not really.. Blind person reffing a game, just be honest, he is a fully able person who just cant cut it in his job. A blind person isnt in a position to cheat us and his profession in this way. |
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Post by ACW on May 30, 2022 20:37:18 GMT 1
Thanks for the incisive summary. just making it clear and simple for the brain dead people thinking that we should of had 2 pens So, you think neither incident was a foul and merited a penalty? |
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Post by sicktodeath on May 30, 2022 20:42:16 GMT 1
just making it clear and simple for the brain dead people thinking that we should of had 2 pens So, you think neither incident was a foul and merited a penalty? Correct. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 30, 2022 20:49:32 GMT 1
Just imagine if you were a neutral paying little interest to the detail, but followed the media representation in the last few weeks.
All you’ll be programmed to remember, is that Forest just missed out on automatic promotion (but didn’t finish third bizarrely), and were strong favourites for the final, despite creeping through on pens after nearly shutting out.
Once the VAR stuff dies down that’s all some folk will remember, a club that achieved its rightful destiny.
It’s strange to think that they’ll probably wax lyrical about the side that finished third of the promoted sides, they’re like the Leeds Utd story that they were desperate to write…
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 30, 2022 20:57:43 GMT 1
Love the Stevie Wonder one. Nah, using a disability to take the piss out of a non disabled persons failings or stupidity isnt big or clever. Try it with some mentally ill person as the ref or var, see the reaction. You could show him dropping his pants and sucking his thumb, whilst shaking his head about so he misses the incident??? The last bloke i was trying to help, thats what he does under pressure.He used to defuse ordnance, hundreds of times. Laugh? Not really.. Blind person reffing a game, just be honest, he is a fully able person who just cant cut it in his job. A blind person isnt in a position to cheat us and his profession in this way. Lighten up, it’s not as if Stevie Wonder will ever be reading DATM is it? |
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Post by Porrohman on May 30, 2022 20:58:23 GMT 1
You’re obviously on a baiting attempt, but I’ll bite. As others have pointed out, we might have had 2 shots on target, perhaps goals even, if those players hadn’t been fouled. How many attempts on target did Forest have? Apparently that one we had early doors doesn’t count because it’s got to reach the keeper for the stattos? That tells you all about what a load of bollocks modern day, media driven football has become. The on target goal attempts was 2. Colvil and a long shot from forest in the second half that barely reached. Both teams could have had a dozen or more on target and it does not change the fact that clear and obvious penalties were not given and the reasoning given is utter bollocks. The better team did not win, so that old load of shite about teams getting the reward of really poor decisions is ok because they 'deserved' them, does not fit either. The almost 100% of unbiased comment stating they cannot understand the non decisions is unheard of before in the game. Have spoken to lads today who support a variety of teams around the country, have no love for Town or anything against Forest, its clear from them we should have had 2 penalties. No dissenters.. Never seen it before other than when Beckham got sent off for nothing for England. How Town or Forest performed should never have anything to do with the decisions given. Colwills won't count as a shot on target for them. They had 2 from 25 yards in the 2nd half, both straight at Nicholls |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 30, 2022 21:11:31 GMT 1
Love the Stevie Wonder one. Nah, using a disability to take the piss out of a non disabled persons failings or stupidity isnt big or clever. Try it with some mentally ill person as the ref or var, see the reaction. You could show him dropping his pants and sucking his thumb, whilst shaking his head about so he misses the incident??? The last bloke i was trying to help, thats what he does under pressure.He used to defuse ordnance, hundreds of times. Laugh? Not really.. Blind person reffing a game, just be honest, he is a fully able person who just cant cut it in his job. A blind person isnt in a position to cheat us and his profession in this way. It was a joke Galph. Nothing more. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 30, 2022 21:44:22 GMT 1
Nah, using a disability to take the piss out of a non disabled persons failings or stupidity isnt big or clever. Try it with some mentally ill person as the ref or var, see the reaction. You could show him dropping his pants and sucking his thumb, whilst shaking his head about so he misses the incident??? The last bloke i was trying to help, thats what he does under pressure.He used to defuse ordnance, hundreds of times. Laugh? Not really.. Blind person reffing a game, just be honest, he is a fully able person who just cant cut it in his job. A blind person isnt in a position to cheat us and his profession in this way. It was a joke Galph. Nothing more. Didnt need a disability to make a joke about him, an able bodied, highly paid professional, who either cant or would not do the job he is paid to do, or his fully able bodied assistants who cant or wont do it either, did it??? Maybe showing him looking down counting cash or looking the other way wearing a Forest in the Premier league T shirt?? Nah, just an easy joke using a disability. If you want to be a cutting edge comedian using taboo subjects, you have to be clever, not Chubby Brown. |
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Post by Ibiza Town on May 30, 2022 21:51:24 GMT 1
Very interesting analysis from an objective source. We need to channel this frustration to motivate the players and finish top 2 next season. Not just an objective source.
It was written by Keith Hackket, one of the most highly rated ex referees around |
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Post by ACW on May 30, 2022 21:51:33 GMT 1
So, you think neither incident was a foul and merited a penalty? Correct. Then you are the one who is brain dead. |
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Post by malcolmbrown on May 30, 2022 21:55:34 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish Not a time for wind ups mate. F*ck off. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 30, 2022 21:56:43 GMT 1
Nah, using a disability to take the piss out of a non disabled persons failings or stupidity isnt big or clever. Try it with some mentally ill person as the ref or var, see the reaction. You could show him dropping his pants and sucking his thumb, whilst shaking his head about so he misses the incident??? The last bloke i was trying to help, thats what he does under pressure.He used to defuse ordnance, hundreds of times. Laugh? Not really.. Blind person reffing a game, just be honest, he is a fully able person who just cant cut it in his job. A blind person isnt in a position to cheat us and his profession in this way. Lighten up, it’s not as if Stevie Wonder will ever be reading DATM is it? Good one, another one who still believes Chubby Brown is the cutting edge of comedy. People who have blind relatives or friends who have been blinded do read DATM, im one.. Why is it ok to use a disability to take the piss out of a fully able bodied person who behaves like a c***  ? Can i call you spaccer if you get something incorrect or you make a mistake? Id just call you a c***.. Im all for taking the piss out of him being far too fat to be a ref or far too unfit, its his choice and the clowns that saw him as fit to ref the game. Can we call them mentally ill for doing so or would that upset those who have issues?? Just annoys me, thats all. Selective on the 'issues' that you use as comedy, cant call folk names but you can use a disability to demean a fully able bodied person?? Thats what this actually is.. |
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away the captain who is the one person on the pitch who is allowed to talk to them. 
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