sicktodeath
George Donis Terrier
Stop blaming the ref
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Post by sicktodeath on May 30, 2022 21:59:33 GMT 1
Then you are the one who is brain dead. Not really cause im not one going around crying about var and the ref. Just sore losers like you  |
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sicktodeath
George Donis Terrier
Stop blaming the ref
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Post by sicktodeath on May 30, 2022 22:02:02 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish Not a time for wind ups mate. F*ck off. You another sore loser crying? |
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Post by Mastercracker on May 30, 2022 22:04:01 GMT 1
God there’s some bellends in our fanbase.
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Wingman
Mental Health Support Group
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Post by Wingman on May 30, 2022 22:07:47 GMT 1
Not a time for wind ups mate. F*ck off. You another sore loser crying? Goodbye.  |
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 30, 2022 22:13:56 GMT 1
You another sore loser crying? Goodbye. Think he was a Forest fan… good decision. |
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ambryboy
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
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Post by ambryboy on May 30, 2022 22:17:24 GMT 1
Very interesting analysis from an objective source. We need to channel this frustration to motivate the players and finish top 2 next season. He isn't objective. He lays into refs constantly, making out like it was far better when he was running the referees. People use him for confirmation bias because he'll normally side against the refs. Sometimes it takes a thief to catch a thief. |
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Post by ACW on May 30, 2022 22:20:06 GMT 1
You another sore loser crying? Goodbye. How upsetting to lose such a quality poster. |
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Post by tockyterrier on May 30, 2022 22:22:22 GMT 1
Lighten up, it’s not as if Stevie Wonder will ever be reading DATM is it? Good one, another one who still believes Chubby Brown is the cutting edge of comedy. People who have blind relatives or friends who have been blinded do read DATM, im one.. Why is it ok to use a disability to take the piss out of a fully able bodied person who behaves like a c***  ? Can i call you spaccer if you get something incorrect or you make a mistake? Id just call you a c***.. Im all for taking the piss out of him being far too fat to be a ref or far too unfit, its his choice and the clowns that saw him as fit to ref the game. Can we call them mentally ill for doing so or would that upset those who have issues?? Just annoys me, thats all. Selective on the 'issues' that you use as comedy, cant call folk names but you can use a disability to demean a fully able bodied person?? Thats what this actually is.. You've lost me now. Why is it ok to take the piss out of him for being fat? Plenty people are overweight as a result of other issues such as injury and disability and not ALL their own fault. The visual is clearly to make the point the ref could or didnt see it. BUT It's NOT taking the piss out of blind people. |
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Post by hypotenuse on May 30, 2022 22:32:45 GMT 1
That's the bit I don't understand at all. Moss may have made the decisions that he thought were correct from the one viewing he had, in the position he was in. For the first he obviously thought that Toffolo 'performed an act of simulation', or dived as we all know it, and Moss booked him for it. The replays the the VAR refs (there are 2 of them!) had available to them clearly show that Toffolo was fouled, so that the ref should at least recind the yellow card even if he doesn't think there is enough contact for a penalty. The second one is just a foul and penalty no question about it, I presume the VAR refs had gone home at that point - if they were watching that and didn't bring it to the refs attention then there is no point in VAR at all. I think you would find if the truth be told was that Moss had told the VAR that he would not be countermanded on any big decisions. They were therefore impotent. They did tell him about the Toffolo incident but he refused the onfield check. They didnt even discuss the o brien incident given the 'theatrical' waving away by Moss the second it occurred. He was the ref, VAR were not required and his first decision was going to be final. That he is a fat, unfit, bastard also seems to have bypassed the footballing authorities when choosing a ref in his last game who they probably knew was going to make every decision and ignore any advice or help. VAR is there to assist 3 blokes doing their best under tough circumstances, we are humans and we err or we dont see something, apparently not if you are a fat, unfit, bastard.? The worst humans are those that are inept or useless but simply wont accept it. There was an article by Mark Clattenburg a week or so back expressing astonishment that any referee be given such a big game as their last as there is no way of taking any retrospective action against the ref. He mentioned that his last game in the UK was a meaningless mid-table game between Leicester and WBA. |
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Post by Porrohman on May 30, 2022 23:07:26 GMT 1
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Post by saintlyterrier on May 30, 2022 23:13:13 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish I hope you realise that Forest also had no shots on target and played rubbish. THAT'S why this topic is so significant. |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on May 30, 2022 23:32:47 GMT 1
We didn’t have any shots on target cos we kept getting fouled all over the pitch (twice in the penalty area)!
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Post by mosher on May 31, 2022 0:51:37 GMT 1
galpharm2400 I think you must be the first squaddie/ex-squaddie I've EVER seen get het up over taking the piss out of ANYTHING! Every other one I know relishes the piss take, including every one of them that's been injured or suffering from PTSD (including my dad)! Not saying you're in the wrong or criticising you in any way, just pointing out an apparent anomoly 😁
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Post by 28901 on May 31, 2022 1:13:32 GMT 1
Football is dead, that's about as corrupt as it can get yesterday in a game that is worth so much money to both clubs. I really aren't sure how Forest fans can celebrate that victory knowing that its basically cheating that promoted them. Youre talking about a fanbase who celebrate being scabs..no honour or pride whatsoever. |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 31, 2022 2:35:15 GMT 1
To be fair, we'd be celebrating the victory if roles were reversed.
I'm not mad with their fans, I've seen a few comments from a few tree huggers saying they were lucky that they didn't get called. Sure some are right arsehats, but every club has them, heck remember, one of our supposed fans threw coins.
I'm more mad at the referee and VAR. That O'Brien one especially, just watch the defenders leg, tackle LOB from behind! Clear as day.
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 31, 2022 7:22:51 GMT 1
VAR was bought into the final beacuse of the magnitude of the prize to be won and to help get the big decisions right in the spirit of fairness. The fact the 2nd penalty appeal didn't even go to VAR is a head scratcher. But we've not had any luck with penalty decisions in all 3 play off games. Bad luck or a conspiracy?? Either way it's not sour grapes re VAR and the penalties - had we been given one penalty & scored we would only have been level. We played well enough second half to be in the game, the momentum would have been with us & who knows what would have happened then. Thats what the bad taste is in my mouth and I reckon any other fan of any another club who was dealt those harsh cards woud feel that as well. VAR was brought in to ensure the correct team won 😡 |
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 31, 2022 7:27:20 GMT 1
I dont understand why people are having a go at the ref and var. People need to realise we had 0 shots on target and played rubbish Bit like forest next year then ( fuck off) |
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 31, 2022 7:35:45 GMT 1
VAR is only there to assist the big clubs. I think it may have been mentioned but if that’s Kane or Salah they are pens all day long. Imagine if a decision like that lad gone against Liverpool or city. Their players would have surrounded the ref and pep/ klopp would have chased Moss down the tunnel at full time. I think as a club we are too nice at times. Fair play to forest but we were well and truly fucked over by Moss and VAR on Sunday that leaves a sour taste. Why bring it in for £190m game and get the decisions wrong? I think it’s shocking and should be looked into.
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Post by alexdire on May 31, 2022 8:46:42 GMT 1
Very interesting analysis from an objective source. We need to channel this frustration to motivate the players and finish top 2 next season. He isn't objective. He lays into refs constantly, making out like it was far better when he was running the referees. People use him for confirmation bias because he'll normally side against the refs. But the standard of refereeing was much better. That's why there were no FA refs at the last world cup. |
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Post by impact on May 31, 2022 10:05:07 GMT 1
He isn't objective. He lays into refs constantly, making out like it was far better when he was running the referees. People use him for confirmation bias because he'll normally side against the refs. But the standard of refereeing was much better. That's why there were no FA refs at the last world cup. It wasn't. It was just as bad if not worse in a slower game without as much media attention. We had no refs at the world cup last time because Clattenburg, one of if not the best in the world, quit just before and no one else had gone to the training camp. If you follow Hackett on twitter you see just how much bitterness spews out of him. I agree with what he's saying on the game, but that doesn't mean he's objective. |
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Post by detox on May 31, 2022 11:39:03 GMT 1
What pisses me off is the total silence on this issue from whoever runs it,and the EFL. Where is the accountability,the excuses for it or explanation?
This was the top game of the season, seen all over the world,worth£170m to the winners yet utter silence..not even a 'sorry'..
The EFL employ this var outfit,and the refs, so why aren't they asking the questions, why aren't they demanding an explanation on behalf of the clubs and the fans ?
Another point,about O'Brien,he was targeted that first half by Forest with at least 4 fouls given, and eventually a yellow card after about an hour. So how come soon as he's fouled yet again,in the penalty box this time it's play on ?
People are claiming it's a conspiracy, bias against smaller clubs..which they will do when nobody comes out to face up to the questions and offers an explanation. The failure to be accountable just confirms for many that there is no justifyable excuse so therefore it clearly is corruption
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 31, 2022 12:18:47 GMT 1
galpharm2400 I think you must be the first squaddie/ex-squaddie I've EVER seen get het up over taking the piss out of ANYTHING! Every other one I know relishes the piss take, including every one of them that's been injured or suffering from PTSD (including my dad)! Not saying you're in the wrong or criticising you in any way, just pointing out an apparent anomoly 😁 Spent a great deal of time with ex colleagues with many parts missing, many who have other issues, taking the piss and laughing about it, is part of the treatment. Using a blind person to demean the abilities of a fully able person isnt. The ref has vision, he either uses that vision along with his other senses and physical condition to keep up and make decisions or he does not. He either uses all the extra help he has or he does not. A blind person isnt appropriate to use to demean his full senses or his failings as a fully able bodied person. Call him a fat, useless c*** because thats his choice and his ability as a top ref and leave it at that? He could not keep up, no pictures of him in a wheelchair or with limbs missing or references to physical disability? Being fat or unfit and still being paid to referee fast moving professional sport brings up far and away more sensible areas for taking the piss.? |
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Post by Porrohman on May 31, 2022 12:49:52 GMT 1
galpharm2400 I think you must be the first squaddie/ex-squaddie I've EVER seen get het up over taking the piss out of ANYTHING! Every other one I know relishes the piss take, including every one of them that's been injured or suffering from PTSD (including my dad)! Not saying you're in the wrong or criticising you in any way, just pointing out an apparent anomoly 😁 Spent a great deal of time with ex colleagues with many parts missing, many who have other issues, taking the piss and laughing about it, is part of the treatment. Using a blind person to demean the abilities of a fully able person isnt. The ref has vision, he either uses that vision along with his other senses and physical condition to keep up and make decisions or he does not. He either uses all the extra help he has or he does not. A blind person isnt appropriate to use to demean his full senses or his failings as a fully able bodied person. Call him a fat, useless c*** because thats his choice and his ability as a top ref and leave it at that? He could not keep up, no pictures of him in a wheelchair or with limbs missing or references to physical disability? Being fat or unfit and still being paid to referee fast moving professional sport brings up far and away more sensible areas for taking the piss.? His size and mobility had fuck all to do with him choosing not to see two blatant fouls in the box. Do you get pissed off that Scottish refs are/were sponsored by Specsavers ? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 31, 2022 14:14:33 GMT 1
Spent a great deal of time with ex colleagues with many parts missing, many who have other issues, taking the piss and laughing about it, is part of the treatment. Using a blind person to demean the abilities of a fully able person isnt. The ref has vision, he either uses that vision along with his other senses and physical condition to keep up and make decisions or he does not. He either uses all the extra help he has or he does not. A blind person isnt appropriate to use to demean his full senses or his failings as a fully able bodied person. Call him a fat, useless c*** because thats his choice and his ability as a top ref and leave it at that? He could not keep up, no pictures of him in a wheelchair or with limbs missing or references to physical disability? Being fat or unfit and still being paid to referee fast moving professional sport brings up far and away more sensible areas for taking the piss.? His size and mobility had fuck all to do with him choosing not to see two blatant fouls in the box. Do you get pissed off that Scottish refs are/were sponsored by Specsavers ? So he 'chose' not to see 2 fouls and he isnt blind or partially sighted? His mobility certainly saw him well out of position a few times, but he had VAR alledgedly. His arrogance in failing to use the help given has nothing to do with weight or eyesight? Specsavers sponsors refs who have to pass eye tests which are administered by Specsavers? ? Not sure thats anything but a business agreement?? Ale companies sponsor football teams as do gambling companies, does that mean the players and officials are alcoholics or problem gamblers and when a player makes a mistake do we show a mock up of an alcoholic missing the chance? |
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Post by Porrohman on May 31, 2022 14:44:55 GMT 1
His size and mobility had fuck all to do with him choosing not to see two blatant fouls in the box. Do you get pissed off that Scottish refs are/were sponsored by Specsavers ? So he 'chose' not to see 2 fouls and he isnt blind or partially sighted? His mobility certainly saw him well out of position a few times, but he had VAR alledgedly. His arrogance in failing to use the help given has nothing to do with weight or eyesight? Specsavers sponsors refs who have to pass eye tests which are administered by Specsavers? ? Not sure thats anything but a business agreement?? Ale companies sponsor football teams as do gambling companies, does that mean the players and officials are alcoholics or problem gamblers and when a player makes a mistake do we show a mock up of an alcoholic missing the chance? Fuck me, you must be fun at parties 🙄 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 31, 2022 16:28:07 GMT 1
So he 'chose' not to see 2 fouls and he isnt blind or partially sighted? His mobility certainly saw him well out of position a few times, but he had VAR alledgedly. His arrogance in failing to use the help given has nothing to do with weight or eyesight? Specsavers sponsors refs who have to pass eye tests which are administered by Specsavers? ? Not sure thats anything but a business agreement?? Ale companies sponsor football teams as do gambling companies, does that mean the players and officials are alcoholics or problem gamblers and when a player makes a mistake do we show a mock up of an alcoholic missing the chance? Fuck me, you must be fun at parties 🙄 Just tired of folk who pick and choose whats acceptable as humour, who cant be made fun of and who can.. Who can be used as the butt to demean those who have no reason or excuse to be fucking useless and those that cant.. My humour is and has been pretty black and most would be totally unacceptable to many on here and elsewhere, disability isnt a big part of it, the fuckwits wandering about with 'beliefs' in their own heads and opinions that have not a single fact to back them up, or damage themselves and want us all to see them as victims are the ones I think funny. Id get short shrift on here. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 31, 2022 21:03:02 GMT 1
Fuck me, you must be fun at parties 🙄 Just tired of folk who pick and choose whats acceptable as humour, who cant be made fun of and who can.. Who can be used as the butt to demean those who have no reason or excuse to be fucking useless and those that cant.. My humour is and has been pretty black and most would be totally unacceptable to many on here and elsewhere, disability isnt a big part of it, the fuckwits wandering about with 'beliefs' in their own heads and opinions that have not a single fact to back them up, or damage themselves and want us all to see them as victims are the ones I think funny. Id get short shrift on here. Tired of folk who pick and choose what’s acceptable as humour? That’s exactly what you are doing. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 31, 2022 21:11:40 GMT 1
I think the more you look into the record shop the more it stinks.
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Post by Porrohman on May 31, 2022 21:51:33 GMT 1
Fuck me, you must be fun at parties 🙄 Just tired of folk who pick and choose whats acceptable as humour, who cant be made fun of and who can.. Who can be used as the butt to demean those who have no reason or excuse to be fucking useless and those that cant.. My humour is and has been pretty black and most would be totally unacceptable to many on here and elsewhere, disability isnt a big part of it, the fuckwits wandering about with 'beliefs' in their own heads and opinions that have not a single fact to back them up, or damage themselves and want us all to see them as victims are the ones I think funny. Id get short shrift on here. Jokes about refs eyesight have been around as long as football has. |
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Post by mosher on May 31, 2022 22:27:52 GMT 1
Fuck me, you must be fun at parties 🙄 Just tired of folk who pick and choose whats acceptable as humour, who cant be made fun of and who can.. Who can be used as the butt to demean those who have no reason or excuse to be fucking useless and those that cant.. My humour is and has been pretty black and most would be totally unacceptable to many on here and elsewhere, disability isnt a big part of it, the fuckwits wandering about with 'beliefs' in their own heads and opinions that have not a single fact to back them up, or damage themselves and want us all to see them as victims are the ones I think funny. Id get short shrift on here. Completely agree galph with people choosing what to be offended by! I tend not to get offended by any type of joke, mostly because of the squaddie upbringing, 70s & 80s if you got offended by stick, the stick just intensified! Some of the jokes I've heard about disability, race, religion, etc would DEFINITELY lead to a ban on here, fakebook or twatter and they were 99% of the time told to me by someone who could fit the subject of the joke! Bloody hell, one abiding memory is my mate's dad Ainsley, dressed as a cowboy, walking into a do at the Sergeant's Mess, pulling his fake colt and saying "nobody move or the n****** gets it" and one of the SMs (also afro-caribbean) started doing a dance chanting "shoot the n*****"! And like you say, the injured guys tend to incessantly take the piss outta each other's various ailments! |
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