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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 1, 2022 10:39:01 GMT 1
Fuck me, you must be fun at parties đ Just tired of folk who pick and choose whats acceptable as humour, who cant be made fun of and who can.. Who can be used as the butt to demean those who have no reason or excuse to be fucking useless and those that cant.. My humour is and has been pretty black and most would be totally unacceptable to many on here and elsewhere, disability isnt a big part of it, the fuckwits wandering about with 'beliefs' in their own heads and opinions that have not a single fact to back them up, or damage themselves and want us all to see them as victims are the ones I think funny. Id get short shrift on here. Geez, take a chill pill, not like they can see what Porroh has posted đ
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 1, 2022 11:23:12 GMT 1
Just tired of folk who pick and choose whats acceptable as humour, who cant be made fun of and who can.. Who can be used as the butt to demean those who have no reason or excuse to be fucking useless and those that cant.. My humour is and has been pretty black and most would be totally unacceptable to many on here and elsewhere, disability isnt a big part of it, the fuckwits wandering about with 'beliefs' in their own heads and opinions that have not a single fact to back them up, or damage themselves and want us all to see them as victims are the ones I think funny. Id get short shrift on here. Jokes about refs eyesight have been around as long as football has. I rest my case. Try a few black or gay jokes, they have been around quite a while. One or two about mental health suicide should go down a storm, or would you avoid them? I dont usually bite at jokes, being Jewish gives you a thick skin but equating the incompetence or worse of an able bodied, well paid professional with a disability is fucking annoying.
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Post by Champers on Jun 1, 2022 12:23:17 GMT 1
Jokes about refs eyesight have been around as long as football has. I rest my case. Try a few black or gay jokes, they have been around quite a while. One or two about mental health suicide should go down a storm, or would you avoid them? I dont usually bite at jokes, being Jewish gives you a thick skin but equating the incompetence or worse of an able bodied, well paid professional with a disability is fucking annoying. I find your whining about it far more annoying. Unless you're registered blind then you're just virtue signalling and there's way too much of that in the world already. Can't you just go back to spreading Covid misinformation instead, at least that was funny in a bewildering way.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 1, 2022 12:26:44 GMT 1
I rest my case. Try a few black or gay jokes, they have been around quite a while. One or two about mental health suicide should go down a storm, or would you avoid them? I dont usually bite at jokes, being Jewish gives you a thick skin but equating the incompetence or worse of an able bodied, well paid professional with a disability is fucking annoying. I find your whining about it far more annoying. Unless you're registered blind then you're just virtue signalling and there's way too much of that in the world already. Can't you just go back to spreading Covid misinformation instead, at least that was funny in a bewildering way. Or being the only one that knows what's really happening in the Ukraine thread.
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Post by 28901 on Jun 1, 2022 12:40:24 GMT 1
I rest my case. Try a few black or gay jokes, they have been around quite a while. One or two about mental health suicide should go down a storm, or would you avoid them? I dont usually bite at jokes, being Jewish gives you a thick skin but equating the incompetence or worse of an able bodied, well paid professional with a disability is fucking annoying. I find your whining about it far more annoying. Unless you're registered blind then you're just virtue signalling and there's way too much of that in the world already. Can't you just go back to spreading Covid misinformation instead, at least that was funny in a bewildering way. Whats wrong with virtue? Thats a stupid insult thrown at anyone who cares about something by people who don't give a shit or are too stupid to understand. The rest of your post I agree with by the way.
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Post by Champers on Jun 1, 2022 12:46:24 GMT 1
I find your whining about it far more annoying. Unless you're registered blind then you're just virtue signalling and there's way too much of that in the world already. Can't you just go back to spreading Covid misinformation instead, at least that was funny in a bewildering way. Whats wrong with virtue? Thats a stupid insult thrown at anyone who cares about something by people who don't give a shit or are too stupid to understand. The rest of your post I agree with by the way. Fair comment, but we could all do this to the point where nobody is allowed to post anything for fear of upsetting somebody. I mean, calling a ref blind is obviously not an intentional attempt to cause offence to genuinely blind people - everyone knows that surely - yet here we are.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 1, 2022 12:47:02 GMT 1
I find your whining about it far more annoying. Unless you're registered blind then you're just virtue signalling and there's way too much of that in the world already. Can't you just go back to spreading Covid misinformation instead, at least that was funny in a bewildering way. Or being the only one that knows what's really happening in the Ukraine thread. I merely stated what I had been told by people who were monitoring the situation for us from the area. Im pretty sure none of it was misinformation, you can read our media if you want that. The rest was from being there 3 times since 2014. Sorry if it does not fit the narrative. I believe the outcome will be as predicted. As for covid, now monkey pox the science was proved wrong so many times that its clear that its political and behavioral science that has and will run whatever is coming, much like it did with these tools.
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Post by 28901 on Jun 1, 2022 12:50:49 GMT 1
Whats wrong with virtue? Thats a stupid insult thrown at anyone who cares about something by people who don't give a shit or are too stupid to understand. The rest of your post I agree with by the way. Fair comment, but we could all do this to the point where nobody is allowed to post anything for fear of upsetting somebody. I mean, calling a ref blind is obviously not an intentional attempt to cause offence to genuinely blind people - everyone knows that surely - yet here we are. No refs and eyesight jokes isn't really the top of the 'woke agenda'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 12:55:05 GMT 1
Is any thread, on any board, about any topic, safe from Galpharm's crazy Covid conspiracy theories?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 1, 2022 12:58:22 GMT 1
Whats wrong with virtue? Thats a stupid insult thrown at anyone who cares about something by people who don't give a shit or are too stupid to understand. The rest of your post I agree with by the way. Fair comment, but we could all do this to the point where nobody is allowed to post anything for fear of upsetting somebody. I mean, calling a ref blind is obviously not an intentional attempt to cause offence to genuinely blind people - everyone knows that surely - yet here we are. You are equating a disability to excuse the pure incompetence or worse of an able bodied professional. A joke about a blind person doing something funny because they 'cant' see is different, as is joking about a blind person injuring themselves because of their disability. A blind person cannot be a ref because they really cant see. The complaints about the paddy power blind footballers kicking the cat with a bell round its neck were from cat lovers, blind people found it hilarious and no cats were kicked. You can laugh about most things its the context.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 1, 2022 13:02:20 GMT 1
Is any thread, on any board, about any topic, safe from Galpharm's crazy Covid conspiracy theories? kill me now Just hang on a bit, something will get you, even if you hide.đ
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Post by Champers on Jun 1, 2022 13:04:37 GMT 1
Fair comment, but we could all do this to the point where nobody is allowed to post anything for fear of upsetting somebody. I mean, calling a ref blind is obviously not an intentional attempt to cause offence to genuinely blind people - everyone knows that surely - yet here we are. You are equating a disability to excuse the pure incompetence or worse of an able bodied professional. A joke about a blind person doing something funny because they 'cant' see is different, as is joking about a blind person injuring themselves because of their disability. A blind person cannot be a ref because they really cant see. The complaints about the paddy power blind footballers kicking the cat with a bell round its neck were from cat lovers, blind people found it hilarious and no cats were kicked. You can laugh about most things its the context. Yeah. I'm gonna stick with my initial comment and move on as I can't be arsed with this đđź
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jun 1, 2022 13:04:42 GMT 1
Is any thread, on any board, about any topic, safe from Galpharm's crazy Covid conspiracy theories? kill me now I don't think I've ever read more than a handful of his posts, as soon as I see his username I just immediately scroll down as the overwhelming likelihood is that it'll be just more incomprehensible babble.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 1, 2022 13:13:43 GMT 1
Is any thread, on any board, about any topic, safe from Galpharm's crazy Covid conspiracy theories? kill me now Heâll not take a blind bit of notice.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Jun 1, 2022 13:15:04 GMT 1
Is any thread, on any board, about any topic, safe from Galpharm's crazy Covid conspiracy theories? kill me now Heâll not take a blind bit of notice. I see what you did there!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 13:17:49 GMT 1
Is any thread, on any board, about any topic, safe from Galpharm's crazy Covid conspiracy theories? kill me now I don't think I've ever read more than a handful of his posts, as soon as I see his username I just immediately scroll down as the overwhelming likelihood is that it'll be just more incomprehensible babble. You mis-spelt "certainty"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 14:25:28 GMT 1
Bit much, folks.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jun 2, 2022 23:04:42 GMT 1
For all we know they could have told Moss to overturn it but he fucked them off. It's mind-blowing that we don't get to hear the Comms from the VAR team.
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Post by runner76 on Jun 2, 2022 23:10:47 GMT 1
Be a better use of police time investigating the VAR decisions âŚ..
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 3, 2022 9:40:07 GMT 1
For all we know they could have told Moss to overturn it but he fucked them off. It's mind-blowing that we don't get to hear the Comms from the VAR team. It's so they can then make up any old bollocks after the game to give them the best chance of worming out of any mistakes they have made. If we had already heard how they reached a decision then they've got nowhere to go. At the bare minimum, the coaching staff of both sides should be able to hear what is going on. If they completely disagree with what is being said then they should be able to have 1 appeal per half where they can insist on the referee having to look at the screen again. Unless you're the most stubborn person in the world who always believes you are right (unfortunately it seems a lot of refs tick that box) why wouldn't you want the opportunity to have another look at it? Surely Moss is now wishing he had looked at both again on the screen as he wouldnt have had the horrible week which has followed.
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Post by drewden on Jun 3, 2022 9:57:33 GMT 1
For all we know they could have told Moss to overturn it but he fucked them off. It's mind-blowing that we don't get to hear the Comms from the VAR team. It's so they can then make up any old bollocks after the game to give them the best chance of worming out of any mistakes they have made. If we had already heard how they reached a decision then they've got nowhere to go. At the bare minimum, the coaching staff of both sides should be able to hear what is going on. If they completely disagree with what is being said then they should be able to have 1 appeal per half where they can insist on the referee having to look at the screen again. Unless you're the most stubborn person in the world who always believes you are right (unfortunately it seems a lot of refs tick that box) why wouldn't you want the opportunity to have another look at it? Surely Moss is now wishing he had looked at both again on the screen as he wouldnt have had the horrible week which has followed. All true and good, but corruption is getting in the way.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 3, 2022 10:05:48 GMT 1
For all we know they could have told Moss to overturn it but he fucked them off. It's mind-blowing that we don't get to hear the Comms from the VAR team. It's so they can then make up any old bollocks after the game to give them the best chance of worming out of any mistakes they have made. If we had already heard how they reached a decision then they've got nowhere to go. At the bare minimum, the coaching staff of both sides should be able to hear what is going on. If they completely disagree with what is being said then they should be able to have 1 appeal per half where they can insist on the referee having to look at the screen again. Unless you're the most stubborn person in the world who always believes you are right (unfortunately it seems a lot of refs tick that box) why wouldn't you want the opportunity to have another look at it? Surely Moss is now wishing he had looked at both again on the screen as he wouldnt have had the horrible week which has followed. You think he'll be that bothered? Just another week, another bunch of fans thinking his shite refereeing has cost them the game. Imagine its like water off a ducks back to refs like him.
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Post by dewsburyborn on Jun 3, 2022 10:11:34 GMT 1
For all we know they could have told Moss to overturn it but he fucked them off. It's mind-blowing that we don't get to hear the Comms from the VAR team. It's so they can then make up any old bollocks after the game to give them the best chance of worming out of any mistakes they have made. If we had already heard how they reached a decision then they've got nowhere to go. At the bare minimum, the coaching staff of both sides should be able to hear what is going on. If they completely disagree with what is being said then they should be able to have 1 appeal per half where they can insist on the referee having to look at the screen again. Unless you're the most stubborn person in the world who always believes you are right (unfortunately it seems a lot of refs tick that box) why wouldn't you want the opportunity to have another look at it? Surely Moss is now wishing he had looked at both again on the screen as he wouldnt have had the horrible week which has followed. But the question is - did he ? Did he ever give it a second thought ? People who think they are always right never actually consider they might not be. More likely he was thinking what a great career he'd had and looking forward to his promotion to referee's boss ....and the next bar of chocolate.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 3, 2022 10:17:14 GMT 1
It's so they can then make up any old bollocks after the game to give them the best chance of worming out of any mistakes they have made. If we had already heard how they reached a decision then they've got nowhere to go. At the bare minimum, the coaching staff of both sides should be able to hear what is going on. If they completely disagree with what is being said then they should be able to have 1 appeal per half where they can insist on the referee having to look at the screen again. Unless you're the most stubborn person in the world who always believes you are right (unfortunately it seems a lot of refs tick that box) why wouldn't you want the opportunity to have another look at it? Surely Moss is now wishing he had looked at both again on the screen as he wouldnt have had the horrible week which has followed. But the question is - did he ? Did he ever give it a second thought ? People who think they are always right never actually consider they might not be. More likely he was thinking what a great career he'd had and looking forward to his promotion to referee's boss ....and the next bar of chocolate. Yes you could be right I think this is the inherent problem with referees. A bit of a generalisation on my part but you've got to be a bit of a weirdo in the first place to want to be a referee. Usually it's because you're rubbish at football and can't get a game so you ref instead. Most seem to have that arrogant type of personality where they take great delight in being centre stage upsetting people
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2022 11:20:18 GMT 1
This article, along with the bullshit that his business was trashed, is a poor attempt to take the heat off him to garner some sympathy. Pathetic. He was wrong on both penalty calls and is incompetent. Has no business taking up the new role as itâs well beyond him.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jun 4, 2022 10:07:27 GMT 1
The way the Corrupt League and collaborators see it is that they gave us our 2 years in the limelight and this time come hell or high water itâll be a âbigâ club that comes up and enriches their brand.
Itâs now a vast global business and as far as theyâre concerned fairness doesnât come into it. They operate like any mega corporation to aggressively grow their revenues and profits to participants.
Iâm more than happy for us to stay in the Championship - and with the added benefit not to see us get thrashed every week and sitting at the bottom of the PL like Norwich.
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Post by artysid on Jun 4, 2022 10:13:38 GMT 1
The way the Corrupt League and collaborators see it is that they gave us our 2 years in the limelight and this time come hell or high water itâll be a âbigâ club that comes up and enriches their brand. Itâs now a vast global business and as far as theyâre concerned fairness doesnât come into it. They operate like any mega corporation to aggressively grow their revenues and profits to participants. Upon reflection Iâm more than happy for us to stay in the Championship - and with the added benefit not to see us get thrashed every week and sitting at the bottom of the PL like Norwich. Maybe it would be better for everyone to admit this, make the PL a closed shop and stop the farce of promotion /relegation on so called merit?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 4, 2022 10:28:20 GMT 1
Iâd be happy with that Art. There are plenty of decent clubs in the EFL to build a strong competition and rivalry with.
It would take some time to settle though, because the PL has induced casino type chairmanship in the EFL.
Itâs franchise football weâre ultimately talking about. It will happen in my lifetime, which is sad in a way, but there will still be a strong market for TV audiences, albeit not to the level that a franchised PL/ESL would have. But their fans might then realise how theyâre just pawns in a big homogenised entertainment business.
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Post by Norn Iron Terrier on Jun 4, 2022 22:37:23 GMT 1
The way the Corrupt League and collaborators see it is that they gave us our 2 years in the limelight and this time come hell or high water itâll be a âbigâ club that comes up and enriches their brand. Itâs now a vast global business and as far as theyâre concerned fairness doesnât come into it. They operate like any mega corporation to aggressively grow their revenues and profits to participants. Upon reflection Iâm more than happy for us to stay in the Championship - and with the added benefit not to see us get thrashed every week and sitting at the bottom of the PL like Norwich. Maybe it would be better for everyone to admit this, make the PL a closed shop and stop the farce of promotion /relegation on so called merit? Ideally we would have won promotion against Forest and then opt out or sell our premier League place. I would have taken ÂŁ50m-ÂŁ75m to then stay in the Championship and have another season of competitive football. With the money we could reward the players, strengthen the team, upgrade training ground and stadium facilities whilst subsidising low ticket prices. This maybe very harsh on the players getting to the premier League but not getting to actually play in it. The best thing about not being in the premier League would be not hearing the 'I went to Anfield, Old Trafford and Emirates so I deserve a ticket for Spurs or its unfair' posts (which occur mainly on Facebook).
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Post by dugnet on Aug 15, 2023 7:33:38 GMT 1
I was just reading new Wolves boss, Gary O'Neil, comments after the game at Old Trafford last night:
"Jon Moss said it was a blatant penalty, and it should have been given - fair play to him, he apologised."
"Fair play to Jon for saying it was a clear and obvious error - he couldn't believe that the on field referee didn't give it or that VAR didn't intervene".
Now I was a massive advocate for moving on but the irony is extremely bitter this morning. The other question is how on earth did Moss get the job, of essentially policing referees, for the PGMOL? I have been quite impressed by Howard Webb as the head of PGMOL but this appointment is risible. When you consider the comments of respected professionals such as Keith Hackett after Wembley last year it beggars belief Moss was appointed, or perhaps it doesn't.
I really do think we have to move on but reading all that left a bitter taste this morning. It also demonstrated how much a "jobs for the boys" lark football actually is.
I would never advocate any abuse or unpleasantness towards Mr Moss but I hope if he ever visits the John Smith's in an official capacity he is merely shown to his seat and given a cold cup of tea.
Rant over.
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