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Post by durhamterrier on Aug 6, 2022 10:25:10 GMT 1
I’m nowhere near a happy clapper and certain things going on regarding recruitment is frustrating me too , however in our best championship finish in recent years our start was just as poor.
This time last season we only had one more point on the board after scraping a draw with a derby team with 6 pros and taking a dicking from Fulham.
The following game was Preston at home on a Tuesday night. The performance was turgid , the immediate reaction was pretty sceptical but that win built spirit back up .
I know it’s a different competition but let’s hope it’s the same outcome this week.
I truly believe this squad is strong enough for mid table champ , however a few loans would really pad out the depth. If we don’t manage to turn it around against Preston or stoke , we’ve some very tricky away fixtures the following week.
The start hasn’t been great , there are murmurings behind the scenes , but it was the same last year and look how we developed . Keep the faith, get behind the lads and see what this season holds!!!!
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 6, 2022 10:53:28 GMT 1
We had a covid outbreak at the start of last season meaning Nichols (top keeper in the league) and two now premier league players in lob and toffolo missed those games. Ruffels also had covid so Thomas played as a make shift left wing back
Of our four best players - three were out and one playing out of position
Sadly I’m not seeing any similar short term fixes that will change things ahead of some tough games
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2022 11:10:44 GMT 1
Can’t see us winning a game until September and that’s just dependant on if Blackpool are worse than us. Tragic
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 6, 2022 11:17:08 GMT 1
Can’t see us winning a game until September and that’s just dependant on if Blackpool are worse than us. Tragic I think Blackpool are a decent team this year. Kept their mid table side from last year (bowler, Anderson, Ekpiteta) and added 4 good loanees and also paid a fee to Brentford for a young fullback |
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Post by H7 on Aug 6, 2022 11:25:06 GMT 1
There is no doubt that we are in an absolute mess. All the key players from last season gone and not replaced, our talented head coach has walked and we are hanging a club legend out to dry. DS has been set up to fail. Pathetic last couple of months behind the scenes.
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Post by Melc on Aug 6, 2022 11:26:46 GMT 1
I’m nowhere near a happy clapper and certain things going on regarding recruitment is frustrating me too , however in our best championship finish in recent years our start was just as poor. This time last season we only had one more point on the board after scraping a draw with a derby team with 6 pros and taking a dicking from Fulham. The following game was Preston at home on a Tuesday night. The performance was turgid , the immediate reaction was pretty sceptical but that win built spirit back up . I know it’s a different competition but let’s hope it’s the same outcome this week. I truly believe this squad is strong enough for mid table champ , however a few loans would really pad out the depth. If we don’t manage to turn it around against Preston or stoke , we’ve some very tricky away fixtures the following week. The start hasn’t been great , there are murmurings behind the scenes , but it was the same last year and look how we developed . Keep the faith, get behind the lads and see what this season holds!!!! Already expecting my unused season card to gather more dust as Hoyle has just about knocked any interest I had completely out of the window! |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 6, 2022 11:33:01 GMT 1
I’m nowhere near a happy clapper and certain things going on regarding recruitment is frustrating me too , however in our best championship finish in recent years our start was just as poor. This time last season we only had one more point on the board after scraping a draw with a derby team with 6 pros and taking a dicking from Fulham. The following game was Preston at home on a Tuesday night. The performance was turgid , the immediate reaction was pretty sceptical but that win built spirit back up . I know it’s a different competition but let’s hope it’s the same outcome this week. I truly believe this squad is strong enough for mid table champ , however a few loans would really pad out the depth. If we don’t manage to turn it around against Preston or stoke , we’ve some very tricky away fixtures the following week. The start hasn’t been great , there are murmurings behind the scenes , but it was the same last year and look how we developed . Keep the faith, get behind the lads and see what this season holds!!!! Already expecting my unused season card to gather more dust as Hoyle has just about knocked any interest I had completely out of the window! Seeing that you have withdrawn your support, why not give the card to someone who may have an interest in going and who you might give a gift (or curse) for life? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 6, 2022 11:34:05 GMT 1
Love the sentiment.....
...but last year at the end of August we had 10 points from 5 games.
The fixture list hasn't been kind given the negatives in pre-season (play off defeat hangover, loss of manager, loss of three quality players + loanees). Even with that backdrop the start has been disappointing
Would be surprised (but very happy) with 10 points at the end of August from 2 games more.
Wouldn't be that surprised with less than a point a game.
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Post by ldr on Aug 6, 2022 11:43:11 GMT 1
You cannot ask football fans to hold their horses. We are passionate, irrational and usually shoot from the hip.
I will do as I always do: chat shit on the here and now and then retract and admit I got it wrong further down the line.
This day to day moaning bollocks is sometimes the best bit about football.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 6, 2022 11:48:44 GMT 1
The problem is we relied heavily on set pieces & goalkeeping excellence for many of our points last season.
It is not wise to think we can replicate over 20 set piece goals this season, that is an unusually high number. Plus we have lost the left footed option of Sinani's delivery & teams will be far more wary of us & know what to expect.
I'm not going to knock Nicholls, as he was truly superb last year, but he does not seem to have the same confidence as last year, so far, & I'm concerned as that may have been the best season he may ever have - bit like Smith & Kachunga in our promotion season. That being said, I certainly would not be surprised to see him lift himself again & I really hope he does, I think we are really going to need him this season.
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Post by ldr on Aug 6, 2022 12:02:01 GMT 1
The problem is we relied heavily on set pieces & goalkeeping excellence for many of our points last season. It is not wise to think we can replicate over 20 set piece goals this season, that is an unusually high number. Plus we have lost the left footed option of Sinani's delivery & teams will be far more wary of us & know what to expect. I'm not going to knock Nicholls, as he was truly superb last year, but he does not seem to have the same confidence as last year, so far, & I'm concerned as that may have been the best season he may ever have - bit like Smith & Kachunga in our promotion season. That being said, I certainly would not be surprised to see him lift himself again & I really hope he does, I think we are really going to need him this season. Or his head has been turned? |
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Post by conman on Aug 6, 2022 12:03:28 GMT 1
With town I always keep the faith , after fifty odd years of watching town it comes naturally . But I'm struggling at this present time , with the players , the choice of manager, and also with the owner . I've no idea what the solution is though , maybe a combination of all three..
When I woke this morning my first thought was what to do today , when normally it would have been " Fucking hell , town lost last night"
It's going to be a long hard season , which will most likely end in the usual nail biting finale.. KEEP THE FAITH
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Post by alexdire on Aug 6, 2022 12:07:06 GMT 1
There is no doubt that we are in an absolute mess. All the key players from last season gone and not replaced, our talented head coach has walked and we are hanging a club legend out to dry. DS has been set up to fail. Pathetic last couple of months behind the scenes. Which legend? |
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Post by prepare on Aug 6, 2022 12:08:27 GMT 1
I’m nowhere near a happy clapper and certain things going on regarding recruitment is frustrating me too , however in our best championship finish in recent years our start was just as poor. This time last season we only had one more point on the board after scraping a draw with a derby team with 6 pros and taking a dicking from Fulham. The following game was Preston at home on a Tuesday night. The performance was turgid , the immediate reaction was pretty sceptical but that win built spirit back up . I know it’s a different competition but let’s hope it’s the same outcome this week. I truly believe this squad is strong enough for mid table champ , however a few loans would really pad out the depth. If we don’t manage to turn it around against Preston or stoke , we’ve some very tricky away fixtures the following week. The start hasn’t been great , there are murmurings behind the scenes , but it was the same last year and look how we developed . Keep the faith, get behind the lads and see what this season holds!!!! Already expecting my unused season card to gather more dust as Hoyle has just about knocked any interest I had completely out of the window! [/quote nobody is happy with the start but do you likr a lot more have to be drama queens. Grow a pair lad and get over it utt |
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Post by alexdire on Aug 6, 2022 12:11:29 GMT 1
You cannot ask football fans to hold their horses. We are passionate, irrational and usually shoot from the hip. I will do as I always do: chat shit on the here and now and then retract and admit I got it wrong further down the line. This day to day moaning bollocks is sometimes the best bit about football. I don't think anybody is being irrational. The organisation of last season, so far has gone. This is a better championship than last season and we have a weaker squad. |
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Post by ldr on Aug 6, 2022 12:13:35 GMT 1
You cannot ask football fans to hold their horses. We are passionate, irrational and usually shoot from the hip. I will do as I always do: chat shit on the here and now and then retract and admit I got it wrong further down the line. This day to day moaning bollocks is sometimes the best bit about football. I don't think anybody is being irrational. The organisation of last season, so far has gone. This is a better championship than last season and we have a weaker squad. You misunderstood me. I’m saying, by definition, supporters are irrational by nature. Passion does strange things to us. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 6, 2022 12:24:29 GMT 1
There is no doubt that we are in an absolute mess. All the key players from last season gone and not replaced, our talented head coach has walked and we are hanging a club legend out to dry. DS has been set up to fail. Pathetic last couple of months behind the scenes. Which legend? Yep agree liked DS as a player he was a likeable player but legend , 😂. |
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Post by Melc on Aug 6, 2022 12:48:13 GMT 1
Already expecting my unused season card to gather more dust as Hoyle has just about knocked any interest I had completely out of the window! [/quote nobody is happy with the start but do you likr a lot more have to be drama queens. Grow a pair lad and get over it utt For starters I am not a lad, had a season ticket/card for over 50 years. As for growing a pair…. You should be doing the growing up old boy! |
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Post by alexdire on Aug 6, 2022 12:55:43 GMT 1
Yep agree liked DS as a player he was a likeable player but legend , 😂. He was alright, good in patches. But if any player summed up the 2000's for Town. It was Danny Schofield. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 6, 2022 13:01:55 GMT 1
Yep agree liked DS as a player he was a likeable player but legend , 😂. He was alright, good in patches. But if any player summed up the 2000's for Town. It was Danny Schofield. He was a key man who dug us out of the shit after admin/ 8 players. Rolled his sleeves up with the other young under uns and won promotion - holding his nerve to score a crucial penalty versus Lincoln. Played a big part in a side that finished 4th in league one Very good servant to the club |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 6, 2022 13:29:04 GMT 1
He was alright, good in patches. But if any player summed up the 2000's for Town. It was Danny Schofield. He was a key man who dug us out of the shit after admin/ 8 players. Rolled his sleeves up with the other young under uns and won promotion - holding his nerve to score a crucial penalty versus Lincoln. Played a big part in a side that finished 4th in league one Very good servant to the club Must admit I liked that year felt the players were town through and through and you know what maybe closer to legends than my dismissive post above stated, you’ve changed my mind well done sir. |
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Post by prepare on Aug 6, 2022 13:36:50 GMT 1
For starters I am not a lad, had a season ticket/card for over 50 years. As for growing a pair…. You should be doing the growing up old boy! we are both long standing fans but I retract my comment about growing a pair but it’s not the most mature thing you said but neither was mine! We will leave it at thst utt |
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Post by willo on Aug 6, 2022 13:45:44 GMT 1
My fear is we’re potentially looking at another Siewart situation here, ie a young manager out of his depth, and if we wait til the end of September before addressing the situation, we’re almost certainly in for a constant season of struggle to avoid relegation. Next match is crucial for me, no significant improvement and it’s very much decision time by the board. If it is to be the death of a thousand knives, how does this affect Schofield and another possible go at some stage in the future? Concerning if not worrying times.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 6, 2022 15:35:52 GMT 1
While I do understand those who try and find solace in the current situation by comparing it to last season, it's totally flawed thinking. They are two completely different sets of circumstances, it's not even worth trying to compare one players current performances to those of last season, because a players level of output will often wildly vary depending on what coach he is playing for.
All we are seeing is even further evidence of just what Corberan brought to the table, and why it was pure insanity, even from a business sense, to not back him.
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Post by ruggedivy on Aug 6, 2022 15:41:53 GMT 1
I agree with the opening post. Although can’t see a similar table
finish I do think we will be alright. We just look like a side lacking in confidence suffering from a hangover from the play offs and the subsequent events over the summer.
We also have a new coach who is trying to put his stamp on things.
One positive is that the window is open for a while ( even if it’s only loans and frees) and we have an opportunity to have another pre season in November to iron our issues!
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 6, 2022 16:07:27 GMT 1
Am I disappointed at the lack of horse puns in this thread?
Neigh
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Post by mrg on Aug 6, 2022 16:35:19 GMT 1
The problem is we relied heavily on set pieces & goalkeeping excellence for many of our points last season. It is not wise to think we can replicate over 20 set piece goals this season, that is an unusually high number. Plus we have lost the left footed option of Sinani's delivery & teams will be far more wary of us & know what to expect. I'm not going to knock Nicholls, as he was truly superb last year, but he does not seem to have the same confidence as last year, so far, & I'm concerned as that may have been the best season he may ever have - bit like Smith & Kachunga in our promotion season. That being said, I certainly would not be surprised to see him lift himself again & I really hope he does, I think we are really going to need him this season. Or his head has been turned? Or maybe he's got more to deal with in front of him with the current back 4? |
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Post by ldr on Aug 6, 2022 17:18:52 GMT 1
Or his head has been turned? Or maybe he's got more to deal with in front of him with the current back 4? True! |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Aug 6, 2022 17:43:01 GMT 1
Hold your horses is a good shout but the 'I want it now' lot won't want to listen.
They remind me of playground bullies seeking one victim after another and enjoying the 'likes' that their foul mouthed and personally abusive posts attract from like minded sheep. They are just desperate to feel accepted and part of the 'cool crew'. If only they could think for themselves and see what we have today compared to a decade ago.
All will be well but it won't happen overnight
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 6, 2022 20:01:00 GMT 1
Hold your horses is a good shout but the 'I want it now' lot won't want to listen. They remind me of playground bullies seeking one victim after another and enjoying the 'likes' that their foul mouthed and personally abusive posts attract from like minded sheep. They are just desperate to feel accepted and part of the 'cool crew'. If only they could think for themselves and see what we have today compared to a decade ago. All will be well but it won't happen overnight Absolutely |
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