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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 19, 2022 18:02:29 GMT 1
This is just ridiculous. We’ve got a tiny, ill equipped squad, the majority of who have just come off a mega season where they nearly achieved the impossible.
Why would you throw a pumped up nobody in there to make them train like madmen and fall out with senior pros? Have they completely forgotten Carlos cooked his squad just a couple of seasons ago? Get rid of this clown before he dooms us before Xmas.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:13:14 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 19, 2022 18:13:14 GMT 1
Dont worry, Scott High will be back in January to fill Hogg's role
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 19, 2022 18:14:34 GMT 1
Dont worry, Scott High will be back in January to fill Hogg's role Probably said with tongue in cheek. But high would probably be starting if he was here
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 19, 2022 18:18:49 GMT 1
Dont worry, Scott High will be back in January to fill Hogg's role Probably said with tongue in cheek. But high would probably be starting if he was here And that is exactly why we are staring relegation square in the face
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Post by wigster on Oct 19, 2022 18:22:45 GMT 1
From what I've heard the final straw for Hogg was the farce surrounding the "naming" of Yuta Nakayama.
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 19, 2022 18:28:12 GMT 1
From what I've heard the final straw for Hogg was the farce surrounding the "naming" of Yuta Nakayama. I get that. Keep it inside the changing room
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Oct 19, 2022 18:29:12 GMT 1
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Post by townrwe on Oct 19, 2022 18:29:12 GMT 1
Another issue, if the problem with Hogg is correct, and Maynard's nod seems to comfirm that, is MF has, on several occasions, lied to us and the media. Bigging Hoggy up and saying how he can't wait to get him into the team. If we can see this from a distance then the people in positions of power at the club must. They have dug another huge hole by the sounds of it. How on earth they put this right I cannot imagine. He's not really mentioned him in the last 7-10 days. Which corresponds with the fall out. Hoggy putting in a transfer request would focus minds.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:30:12 GMT 1
Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 19, 2022 18:30:12 GMT 1
That post match interview with MF, (such unfortunate initials by the way, but it does seem to sum him up…) where he talked about not picking players if they don’t train well / put the effort in during training doesn’t seem to fit with Hogg After watching him for 10 years or so, can any on here imagine he’s not always busting a bollock in training. He was by far one of our fittest players for the last few seasons Something is obviously very wrong with leaving him out. And I can’t see many fans siding with MF over Hoggy. The truth will come out in the wash hopefully There was a training video a week or so back with Hoggy on an exercise bike working really hard. Maybe someone from the media team was sending out a message? "Here's Hoggy, working hard, looking fit, but not being picked" Pearson was in the same video pedalling just as hard as Hogg, however there's a difference between being able to ride a bike and playing football for 90 minutes.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:32:27 GMT 1
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Post by specialun on Oct 19, 2022 18:32:27 GMT 1
The bloke talks nonsense in pre scripted drivel
Adds he’s a top guy / works hard at the end to sound softer but it comes across as fake & like he’s been told to say it by some sort of media coach
But in the middle is what he’s truly thinking
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 19, 2022 18:56:56 GMT 1
Another issue, if the problem with Hogg is correct, and Maynard's nod seems to comfirm that, is MF has, on several occasions, lied to us and the media. Bigging Hoggy up and saying how he can't wait to get him into the team. If we can see this from a distance then the people in positions of power at the club must. They have dug another huge hole by the sounds of it. How on earth they put this right I cannot imagine. That to me looks more like an olive branch than a lie. Training ground bust-ups don't necessarily concern me per se. People who care let their passions get the better of them sometimes. Fine. The utterly disrespectful way he spoke about Yuta Nakayama worried me far more. I can accept the "I'm not here to be their friend" schtick, but the respect has to be there - both ways. It's entirely possible that a lack of respect is what provoked the bust-up. The apparent lack of any tangible ideas is another. Again, I can buy into the emphasis on training being taken seriously in order to get the best out of players, but effort alone is not going to be enough. I don't suggest that the players aren't trying. I didn't suggest they weren't trying under Schofield though either. The effort is there but the direction is lacking horribly. I don't like sacking managers after 5 or 6 games, but the question is how long do you leave it? A decent coach given the world cup break to get his ideas across *might* still turn this shit show around. Ideally given a few games beforehand to assess the squad. If he's still in the dugout after the Swansea fixture then we might as well start putting Stevenage into our Sat Navs.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 19, 2022 19:03:13 GMT 1
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Post by pterrier on Oct 19, 2022 19:13:02 GMT 1
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Oct 19, 2022 19:21:58 GMT 1
Another issue, if the problem with Hogg is correct, and Maynard's nod seems to comfirm that, is MF has, on several occasions, lied to us and the media. Bigging Hoggy up and saying how he can't wait to get him into the team. If we can see this from a distance then the people in positions of power at the club must. They have dug another huge hole by the sounds of it. How on earth they put this right I cannot imagine. That to me looks more like an olive branch than a lie. Training ground bust-ups don't necessarily concern me per se. People who care let their passions get the better of them sometimes. Fine. The utterly disrespectful way he spoke about Yuta Nakayama worried me far more. I can accept the "I'm not here to be their friend" schtick, but the respect has to be there - both ways. It's entirely possible that a lack of respect is what provoked the bust-up. The apparent lack of any tangible ideas is another. Again, I can buy into the emphasis on training being taken seriously in order to get the best out of players, but effort alone is not going to be enough. I don't suggest that the players aren't trying. I didn't suggest they weren't trying under Schofield though either. The effort is there but the direction is lacking horribly. I don't like sacking managers after 5 or 6 games, but the question is how long do you leave it? A decent coach given the world cup break to get his ideas across *might* still turn this shit show around. Ideally given a few games beforehand to assess the squad. If he's still in the dugout after the Swansea fixture then we might as well start putting Stevenage into our Sat Navs. Absolutely ridiculous post. There's no guarantee Stevenage will get promoted...
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Oct 19, 2022 19:26:40 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Oct 19, 2022 19:26:40 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
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Oct 19, 2022 19:37:16 GMT 1
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Post by mrg on Oct 19, 2022 19:37:16 GMT 1
Another issue, if the problem with Hogg is correct, and Maynard's nod seems to comfirm that, is MF has, on several occasions, lied to us and the media. Bigging Hoggy up and saying how he can't wait to get him into the team. If we can see this from a distance then the people in positions of power at the club must. They have dug another huge hole by the sounds of it. How on earth they put this right I cannot imagine. He's not really mentioned him in the last 7-10 days. Which corresponds with the fall out. Hoggy putting in a transfer request would focus minds. If hoggy puts in a tf I predict a riot, if there's anyone left to give a shit. If this guy makes January at the rate he's going it'll be a shock.
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Oct 19, 2022 19:43:05 GMT 1
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Post by dugnet on Oct 19, 2022 19:43:05 GMT 1
When you think it couldn't get any worse...it does. I can believe this is true but the question is when will somebody do something about this
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Post by Yesss on Oct 19, 2022 19:45:06 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Yawn
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Oct 19, 2022 19:53:53 GMT 1
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 19, 2022 19:53:53 GMT 1
I assume both Bromby and Hoyle were fine with giving him a three year contract? I've said it before and I'll say it again. Fotheringham is Mick Wadsworth all over again. On the showing so far, Mick Wadsworth was a much better coach. He had worse players playing much better football.... still losing games, but at least sticking pins in your eyes wasn't more fun - which it is now! Yeah, Wadsworth had a much more impressive c.v. before coming here than MF does, he was just well over the hill by then. Though I was more referring to him having a long contract, making it too expensive to sack him. (Unless we can turn the Nakayama faux-pas or the Hoggy rift into "gross misconduct")
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Post by rockwall on Oct 19, 2022 19:54:40 GMT 1
What the chuff is going on at our club ladies and gents?
I honestly thought this was people putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.
MF can do one of true. Hogg bleeds blue and white. Been through every high and low for us and always puts in maximum desire and passion.
Please DH, admit you fucked up and get rid.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 19, 2022 20:02:33 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. It’s funny. Get a grip.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 19, 2022 20:12:50 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. It's hilarious 😂
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Post by sheps on Oct 19, 2022 20:25:49 GMT 1
From what I've heard the final straw for Hogg was the farce surrounding the "naming" of Yuta Nakayama. What have I missed? Finding it hard to keep up with the drama.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Oct 19, 2022 20:28:42 GMT 1
From what I've heard the final straw for Hogg was the farce surrounding the "naming" of Yuta Nakayama. What have I missed? Finding it hard to keep up with the drama. A post on page 2 by Dezzly, “liked” by Maynard blue.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 19, 2022 20:33:11 GMT 1
If I was team captain and my manager publicly blamed a fellow team member I would have to stand up for my team mate. Criticism should stay in the dressing room between them.
We are missing Hogg dreadfully. I don’t think we would have lost last games with him in the side. Probably 2 draws.
This seems to be true as Maynard has confirmed. He or she never seems to be wrong.
The fan base is already starting to show their disdain,frustration & anger at MF.
Major problem.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:33:30 GMT 1
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Post by sheps on Oct 19, 2022 20:33:30 GMT 1
What have I missed? Finding it hard to keep up with the drama. A post on page 2 by Dezzly, “liked” by Maynard blue. I meant about our Japanese left centre back lad, but found the video Cheers mate.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:34:51 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 19, 2022 20:34:51 GMT 1
Wonder if Maynard can confirm or deny a player and manager needing to be separated in the changing room at full time? Probably happens a fair bit at most clubs once or twice a season after a poor defeat but not exactly a good sign for such a new manager
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 19, 2022 20:36:57 GMT 1
Wonder if Maynard can confirm or deny a player and manager needing to be separated in the changing room at full time? Probably happens a fair bit at most clubs once or twice a season after a poor defeat but not exactly a good sign for such a new manager Trying to think which one of last nights team would've had the fight in them
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Post by Ross83 on Oct 19, 2022 20:39:27 GMT 1
This is truly a depressing thread. Hogg is more than a legend for me, he is up there in the same box as Booth, Stewart and Mooy. If MF has alienated him, then this is truly a dark day, and the quicker we get shut off him (MF) the better. Totally agree - as you can tell from my profile picture! Likewise. I was gutted when Schindler left but Hoggy would cut deep. He's Mr Huddersfield Town, been with us through the lot and stuck with us too. I wonder now if Hefele was making a point on Sky vs Rotherham too when he spoke about Hoggy. Saying "I was lucky enough to play with him, he's a warrior and when he plays, he has a presence that nobody else can give us" or words to that effect.
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Post by vivabobbyhoy on Oct 19, 2022 21:03:07 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Shame about the fat-shaming, but generally it worked for me. I found it quite cathartic. I live in a very small Welsh town and everybody knows I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, and I feel that the locals judgement of me, albeit unconscious and to a very small degree, is somehow coloured by whoever Town's manager is at the time. I found it difficult when whingey Lee Clark and half the cast of Brookside were running things, but since then it's been OK. Chris Powell was a hit with the Guardian readers and David Wagner, being Klopp's Bezzie, raised my status amongst the many local Liverpool fans. But this guy....... kinell. The loud-mouth, blustering Billy big Bollocks aggression is something I really don't want to be associated with, and the sooner he's gone the better, as far as I'm concerned. If his nemesis turns out to be Johnny Hogg then that would be beautiful poetry. Hoggy's proper hard. He can kill, skin and cook a Swedish elk with one hand AND recover from a broken neck in three days.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Oct 19, 2022 21:10:05 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. miserable prick
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