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Oct 19, 2022 21:18:00 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Oct 19, 2022 21:18:00 GMT 1
Insulting language now. Water off a duck's back but I've been banned for less. Let's see how this is handled by the admins because I'm too old to be trading internet insults at my time of life. |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 21:33:58 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 19, 2022 21:33:58 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Shame about the fat-shaming, but generally it worked for me. I found it quite cathartic. I live in a very small Welsh town and everybody knows I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, and I feel that the locals judgement of me, albeit unconscious and to a very small degree, is somehow coloured by whoever Town's manager is at the time. I found it difficult when whingey Lee Clark and half the cast of Brookside were running things, but since then it's been OK. Chris Powell was a hit with the Guardian readers and David Wagner, being Klopp's Bezzie, raised my status amongst the many local Liverpool fans. But this guy....... kinell. The loud-mouth, blustering Billy big Bollocks aggression is something I really don't want to be associated with, and the sooner he's gone the better, as far as I'm concerned. If his nemesis turns out to be Johnny Hogg then that would be beautiful poetry. Hoggy's proper hard. He can kill, skin and cook a Swedish elk with one hand AND recover from a broken neck in three days. If we are not careful the chanting will start and the younger lads if not all of em, will be frightened to death to touch the ball. If we really believe we could influence the game and the team then perhaps shitting on ourselves isnt the best idea? As we are now bottom there is only one way to go now or the season will just get worse. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 19, 2022 21:37:02 GMT 1
Shame about the fat-shaming, but generally it worked for me. I found it quite cathartic. I live in a very small Welsh town and everybody knows I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, and I feel that the locals judgement of me, albeit unconscious and to a very small degree, is somehow coloured by whoever Town's manager is at the time. I found it difficult when whingey Lee Clark and half the cast of Brookside were running things, but since then it's been OK. Chris Powell was a hit with the Guardian readers and David Wagner, being Klopp's Bezzie, raised my status amongst the many local Liverpool fans. But this guy....... kinell. The loud-mouth, blustering Billy big Bollocks aggression is something I really don't want to be associated with, and the sooner he's gone the better, as far as I'm concerned. If his nemesis turns out to be Johnny Hogg then that would be beautiful poetry. Hoggy's proper hard. He can kill, skin and cook a Swedish elk with one hand AND recover from a broken neck in three days. If we are not careful the chanting will start and the younger lads if not all of em, will be frightened to death to touch the ball. If we really believe we could influence the game and the team then perhaps shitting on ourselves isnt the best idea? As we are now bottom there is only one way to go now or the season will just get worse. They're already frightened to go near the ball because they've been told that if they make a mistake they won't play. |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 21:41:13 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 19, 2022 21:41:13 GMT 1
If we are not careful the chanting will start and the younger lads if not all of em, will be frightened to death to touch the ball. If we really believe we could influence the game and the team then perhaps shitting on ourselves isnt the best idea? As we are now bottom there is only one way to go now or the season will just get worse. They're already frightened to go near the ball because they've been told that if they make a mistake they won't play. They were making mistakes when they were not dropped??? Whatever you think of your manager you need to show some character,? He cant drop them all but they all made mistakes last night. I guess we have decided its all down to the manager.? |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 21:41:25 GMT 1
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Post by alexdire on Oct 19, 2022 21:41:25 GMT 1
Shame about the fat-shaming, but generally it worked for me. I found it quite cathartic. I live in a very small Welsh town and everybody knows I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, and I feel that the locals judgement of me, albeit unconscious and to a very small degree, is somehow coloured by whoever Town's manager is at the time. I found it difficult when whingey Lee Clark and half the cast of Brookside were running things, but since then it's been OK. Chris Powell was a hit with the Guardian readers and David Wagner, being Klopp's Bezzie, raised my status amongst the many local Liverpool fans. But this guy....... kinell. The loud-mouth, blustering Billy big Bollocks aggression is something I really don't want to be associated with, and the sooner he's gone the better, as far as I'm concerned. If his nemesis turns out to be Johnny Hogg then that would be beautiful poetry. Hoggy's proper hard. He can kill, skin and cook a Swedish elk with one hand AND recover from a broken neck in three days. If we are not careful the chanting will start and the younger lads if not all of em, will be frightened to death to touch the ball. If we really believe we could influence the game and the team then perhaps shitting on ourselves isnt the best idea? As we are now bottom there is only one way to go now or the season will just get worse. This club is not staying in the Championship. |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 21:42:41 GMT 1
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Post by shawsie on Oct 19, 2022 21:42:41 GMT 1
If we are not careful the chanting will start and the younger lads if not all of em, will be frightened to death to touch the ball. If we really believe we could influence the game and the team then perhaps shitting on ourselves isnt the best idea? As we are now bottom there is only one way to go now or the season will just get worse. They're already frightened to go near the ball because they've been told that if they make a mistake they won't play. Well they wont be making much of an impression in the game then! Top level football is demanding and brutal - if you arent consistently good then you dont play. Some of our lot young and old need to start delivering !!! |
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 19, 2022 21:46:41 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. usually I agree, but that's just funny. raised more of a smile than this team has lately! |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 19, 2022 21:48:00 GMT 1
They're already frightened to go near the ball because they've been told that if they make a mistake they won't play. Well they wont be making much of an impression in the game then! Top level football is demanding and brutal - if you arent consistently good then you dont play. Some of our lot young and old need to start delivering !!! How are the young or player new to the league supposed to learn if they get dropped as soon as they make a mistake then get hung out to dry in the media by the head coach? |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 19, 2022 21:59:52 GMT 1
They're already frightened to go near the ball because they've been told that if they make a mistake they won't play. They were making mistakes when they were not dropped??? Whatever you think of your manager you need to show some character,? He cant drop them all but they all made mistakes last night. I guess we have decided its all down to the manager.? Full changes then. Bilo Kkh the Japanese lad mbete the northern irish fella Russell Hogg Mahoney diarra Ruffles Ondo |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 22:01:09 GMT 1
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Post by shawsie on Oct 19, 2022 22:01:09 GMT 1
Well they wont be making much of an impression in the game then! Top level football is demanding and brutal - if you arent consistently good then you dont play. Some of our lot young and old need to start delivering !!! How are the young or player new to the league supposed to learn if they get dropped as soon as they make a mistake then get hung out to dry in the media by the head coach? Its not a single mistake though - its repeated failures. I get the media bit and am not keen on MFs style in that regard but the players have to be accountable surely? |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 22:09:16 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 19, 2022 22:09:16 GMT 1
They were making mistakes when they were not dropped??? Whatever you think of your manager you need to show some character,? He cant drop them all but they all made mistakes last night. I guess we have decided its all down to the manager.? Full changes then. Bilo Kkh the Japanese lad mbete the northern irish fella Russell Hogg Mahoney diarra Ruffles Ondo Just maybe not two strikers who get less touches and influence the game less than one up top and stop playing Sorba as a wing back with no cover. Go to a back 4, get the defending right before leaving two up the pitch with nobody near them? Walk before you run?? |
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 22:11:04 GMT 1
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Post by rockwall on Oct 19, 2022 22:11:04 GMT 1
Full changes then. Bilo Kkh the Japanese lad mbete the northern irish fella Russell Hogg Mahoney diarra Ruffles Ondo Just maybe not two strikers who get less touches and influence the game less than one up top and stop playing Sorba as a wing back with no cover. Go to a back 4, get the defending right before leaving two up the pitch with nobody near them? Walk before you run?? Agree. Imo Nicholls Turton helik yuta Jackson Hogg camara Sorba rudoni Holmes Rhodes |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 19, 2022 22:13:52 GMT 1
How are the young or player new to the league supposed to learn if they get dropped as soon as they make a mistake then get hung out to dry in the media by the head coach? Its not a single mistake though - its repeated failures. I get the media bit and am not keen on MFs style in that regard but the players have to be accountable surely? Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. |
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Post by specialun on Oct 19, 2022 22:14:56 GMT 1
If you lose Hogg you’ve lost dressing room - needs rectifying as that’s not a sustainable position
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Post by specialun on Oct 19, 2022 22:18:31 GMT 1
Its not a single mistake though - its repeated failures. I get the media bit and am not keen on MFs style in that regard but the players have to be accountable surely? Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. Agree with your points The Lees marking nobody bit - I’m assuming that’s a deliberate tactic rather than Lees lost man etc, I don’t like it but guessing theory is we’re protecting the six yard box …. But one decent ball over and their centre half has a big advantage being marked by Camara… easy |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 19, 2022 22:26:47 GMT 1
Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. Agree with your points The Lees marking nobody bit - I’m assuming that’s a deliberate tactic rather than Lees lost man etc, I don’t like it but guessing theory is we’re protecting the six yard box …. But one decent ball over and their centre half has a big advantage being marked by Camara… easy If we're zonal marking then surely the whole team need to do it, not just one or two players? If that was indeed the tactic then we'll concede loads from set pieces this season. |
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Post by uptheterriers on Oct 19, 2022 22:27:12 GMT 1
Full changes then. Bilo Kkh the Japanese lad mbete the northern irish fella Russell Hogg Mahoney diarra Ruffles Ondo Just maybe not two strikers who get less touches and influence the game less than one up top and stop playing Sorba as a wing back with no cover. Go to a back 4, get the defending right before leaving two up the pitch with nobody near them? Walk before you run?? Haha this just reminded me of Mike Bassett. Too much sense in this post and I imagine you’d get a similar response from MF |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 19, 2022 22:32:18 GMT 1
After years of Sterling service including playing again just days after sustaining a serious neck injury ( Bristol City ) and being a part of a PL midfield where he allowed the clubs best ever player ( Mooy) to flourish, if the rumours are true, the club must surely step in and sort the problem.
Hogg is a very special case - please don’t let his final years be tainted and destroyed by this turmoil.
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Hogg
Oct 19, 2022 22:41:08 GMT 1
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Post by shawsie on Oct 19, 2022 22:41:08 GMT 1
Its not a single mistake though - its repeated failures. I get the media bit and am not keen on MFs style in that regard but the players have to be accountable surely? Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. The lad who scored was being marked by camara ..... badly! The rovrum goal stemmed from kasumu giving the bloody ball away - something hes been better at than getting booked and thats saying something! Cant disagree with the lees analogy though - im not against calling out poor play or players per se - but if you do it you have to be consistent and not do it repeatedly. MF is a dead man walking for me - lose badly on sat and i think hes on v thin ice. A bad result the week after and a poor home crowd (which is likely with a loss at boro) and that will be it imho. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 22:42:44 GMT 1
Its not a single mistake though - its repeated failures. I get the media bit and am not keen on MFs style in that regard but the players have to be accountable surely? Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. In a nutshell. Lots of posters complain about square pegs in round holes and I think a right back at left centre back, when an international left sided defender is relegated to the bench, is a pretty good example. You have to ask why? Yuta is no inexperienced player. He's played 215 club games and 17 as a full international for Japan. How does MF drop someone with that pedigree, for apparantly one mistake, and throw him under the bus in a media interview, and replace them with a right back? What sort of man management is that? For me that is just shifting the blame. We lost but it wasn't because I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, it's because I didn't have Matty Pearson heading a cross away. Just that Japanese guy with a name too difficult for me to remember. If that is not ringing alarm bells in the Town boardroom then they, and unfortunately us, are lost. |
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Post by irverino on Oct 19, 2022 22:46:10 GMT 1
If you lose Hogg you’ve lost dressing room - needs rectifying as that’s not a sustainable position Watching the performance last night from the team & then hearing about the bizarre antics of MF during half time this may be at revolution stage already, falling out with the guy who the owner, the players, backroom staff & nearly (if not all) every Town fan  is a pretty dumb thing to do (sort it)........MF if you're thinking of wandering around the streets of Middlesborough on Friday night looking for a friendly face to have a beer with, beware Hoggy's family live there! |
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Oct 19, 2022 23:03:39 GMT 1
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 19, 2022 23:03:39 GMT 1
Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. In a nutshell. Lots of posters complain about square pegs in round holes and I think a right back at left centre back, when an international left sided defender is relegated to the bench, is a pretty good example. You have to ask why? Yuta is no inexperienced player. He's played 215 club games and 17 as a full international for Japan. How does MF drop someone with that pedigree, for apparantly one mistake, and throw him under the bus in a media interview, and replace them with a right back? What sort of man management is that? For me that is just shifting the blame. We lost but it wasn't because I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, it's because I didn't have Matty Pearson heading a cross away. Just that Japanese guy with a name too difficult for me to remember. If that is not ringing alarm bells in the Town boardroom then they, and unfortunately us, are lost. He’s gone public with these comments ( re Yuta) this is not rumour, it’s fact. On every level this is rank bad management. And hardly surprising that it has affected team spirit. |
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Oct 19, 2022 23:14:49 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 19, 2022 23:14:49 GMT 1
In a nutshell. Lots of posters complain about square pegs in round holes and I think a right back at left centre back, when an international left sided defender is relegated to the bench, is a pretty good example. You have to ask why? Yuta is no inexperienced player. He's played 215 club games and 17 as a full international for Japan. How does MF drop someone with that pedigree, for apparantly one mistake, and throw him under the bus in a media interview, and replace them with a right back? What sort of man management is that? For me that is just shifting the blame. We lost but it wasn't because I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, it's because I didn't have Matty Pearson heading a cross away. Just that Japanese guy with a name too difficult for me to remember. If that is not ringing alarm bells in the Town boardroom then they, and unfortunately us, are lost. He’s gone public with these comments ( re Yuta) this is not rumour, it’s fact. On every level this is rank bad management. And hardly surprising that it has affected team spirit. We cleared the ball at Rotherham but at least 4 players stayed in. A speculative ball back in, drop of the ball and a goal from a few yards. Thats a joint venture fault in my book. If you dont HAVE to be there, dont be there. If you make a mistake dont let your unneccessary starting position make it more likely to br fatal. Shout your head off at everyone and work all week to make sure its drilled into the team because everybody has to get out. |
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Post by Wingman on Oct 19, 2022 23:16:55 GMT 1
Insulting language now. Water off a duck's back but I've been banned for less. Let's see how this is handled by the admins because I'm too old to be trading internet insults at my time of life. Dealt with. Fair play for biting your tongue 3Pipe. |
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Hogg
Oct 20, 2022 7:13:40 GMT 1
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 20, 2022 7:13:40 GMT 1
Just maybe not two strikers who get less touches and influence the game less than one up top and stop playing Sorba as a wing back with no cover. Go to a back 4, get the defending right before leaving two up the pitch with nobody near them? Walk before you run?? Agree. Imo Nicholls Turton helik yuta Jackson Hogg camara Sorba rudoni Holmes Rhodes Where’s Tino? Has he been completely omitted or injured? |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Oct 20, 2022 7:20:24 GMT 1
Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. Agree with your points The Lees marking nobody bit - I’m assuming that’s a deliberate tactic rather than Lees lost man etc, I don’t like it but guessing theory is we’re protecting the six yard box …. But one decent ball over and their centre half has a big advantage being marked by Camara… easy It looked to me like a mix of zonal and man marking. Lees and one other (can’t recall now, may have been Ward or Rhodes?) were free and both spaced out on the edge of the six yard box. The rest picked up the stacked PNE players at the edge of the box. |
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Oct 20, 2022 7:21:29 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 20, 2022 7:21:29 GMT 1
They're already frightened to go near the ball because they've been told that if they make a mistake they won't play. They were making mistakes when they were not dropped??? Whatever you think of your manager you need to show some character,? He cant drop them all but they all made mistakes last night. I guess we have decided its all down to the manager.? Everyone makes mistakes, it's part of being human. Not everyone has some prick saying they won't be allowed to do their job if they do. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 20, 2022 7:31:35 GMT 1
Irony (right word? wrong word?) is that we could have done with Nakayama the other night.
I'm still not 100% convinced with his defending but his movement for the goal he scored against Stoke was outstanding and was sorely missed when Thomas put a couple of excellent corners in.
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Oct 20, 2022 7:37:31 GMT 1
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Post by offsideclyde on Oct 20, 2022 7:37:31 GMT 1
Some prick that has never managed before and was a bang average player too.
Get rid.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 20, 2022 7:37:33 GMT 1
Agree. Imo Nicholls Turton helik yuta Jackson Hogg camara Sorba rudoni Holmes Rhodes Where’s Tino? Has he been completely omitted or injured? He is out probably most the season. |
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is a pretty dumb thing to do (sort it)........MF if you're thinking of wandering around the streets of Middlesborough on Friday night looking for a friendly face to have a beer with, beware Hoggy's family live there! 