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Oct 20, 2022 8:17:56 GMT 1
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Post by Convictatthemac on Oct 20, 2022 8:17:56 GMT 1
There’s only one result come the weekend and that’s us losing. He’s lost Hoggy, he’s lost the dressing room and that means he’s lost the team effort. TBF I think he was on the way to losing the dressing room earlier by the looks of things, strikers missing tap ins and all that usually are a sign of not giving a fuck(concentration not at 100%).
Time to cut and move on. Need to give a proper manager the WC break to make their mark.
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Oct 20, 2022 8:39:40 GMT 1
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Post by Drew Peacock on Oct 20, 2022 8:39:40 GMT 1
People think MF should be keeping things in house.
Something then supposedly happens in house.
Folk then pester Maynard into liking a post thus releasing things from said house.
No disrespect but if Maynard is "in house" then they should know better. Transfer tidbits are one thing but please don't lower yourself mate.
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Oct 20, 2022 8:41:15 GMT 1
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Post by runner76 on Oct 20, 2022 8:41:15 GMT 1
People think MF should be keeping things in house. Something then supposedly happens in house. Folk then pester Maynard into liking a post thus releasing things from said house. No disrespect but if Maynard is "in house" then they should know better. Transfer tidbits are one thing but please don't lower yourself mate. We need our Mole!!! |
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Post by Maynardblue on Oct 20, 2022 8:44:43 GMT 1
People think MF should be keeping things in house. Something then supposedly happens in house. Folk then pester Maynard into liking a post thus releasing things from said house. No disrespect but if Maynard is "in house" then they should know better. Transfer tidbits are one thing but please don't lower yourself mate. I am not 'in house' - and I know the difference between unhelpful gossip (which I keep to myself) and a worrying situation that fans need to be aware of. I get your sentiment though |
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Oct 20, 2022 9:22:46 GMT 1
Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 20, 2022 9:22:46 GMT 1
Suspect there will be a swallowing of pride if MF knows that the rumours of a bust up have got out and Hogg will be involved Saturday to gloss over and make it look like his house is in order.
Unless Hogg point blank refuses.
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Oct 20, 2022 9:44:48 GMT 1
Post by irverino on Oct 20, 2022 9:44:48 GMT 1
Suspect there will be a swallowing of pride if MF knows that the rumours of a bust up have got out and Hogg will be involved Saturday to gloss over and make it look like his house is in order. Unless Hogg point blank refuses. Hoggy refusing to put the shirt on, never, he may tell MF listen to my constructive advice you dopey twat or you will be history (Bromby too)........& so will be your short managerial career.. |
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Oct 20, 2022 9:48:00 GMT 1
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 20, 2022 9:48:00 GMT 1
Where’s Tino? Has he been completely omitted or injured? He is out probably most the season. I don’t have Twitter but I’m told the Chelsea loan army account intimated he wasn’t far from a return? Maybe wishful thinking/bad info on their behalf. |
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Post by willo on Oct 20, 2022 9:53:33 GMT 1
Hoggy bleeds blue and white. He may lack coaching badges (although Fotheringham proves the case these aren’t necessarily everything) and I’d rather see him in the dugout as player coach flanked by the current coaching staff than the bloke occupying the position He will know the club and ethos inside and out and we may go down but we’d go down fighting.
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Oct 20, 2022 9:56:27 GMT 1
Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 20, 2022 9:56:27 GMT 1
Hoggy bleeds blue and white. He may lack coaching badges (although Fotheringham proves the case these aren’t necessarily everything) and I’d rather see him in the dugout as player coach flanked by the current coaching staff than the bloke occupying the position He will know the club and ethos inside and out and we may go down but we’d go down fighting. Well MF doesn't have a pro license so... |
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Oct 20, 2022 9:58:38 GMT 1
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Post by willo on Oct 20, 2022 9:58:38 GMT 1
Hoggy bleeds blue and white. He may lack coaching badges (although Fotheringham proves the case these aren’t necessarily everything) and I’d rather see him in the dugout as player coach flanked by the current coaching staff than the bloke occupying the position He will know the club and ethos inside and out and we may go down but we’d go down fighting. Well MF doesn't have a pro license so... ? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. |
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 20, 2022 10:08:44 GMT 1
Hoggy bleeds blue and white. He may lack coaching badges (although Fotheringham proves the case these aren’t necessarily everything) and I’d rather see him in the dugout as player coach flanked by the current coaching staff than the bloke occupying the position He will know the club and ethos inside and out and we may go down but we’d go down fighting. Well MF doesn't have a pro license so... It's starting to show too! |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 20, 2022 10:10:33 GMT 1
Well MF doesn't have a pro license so... ? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us |
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Oct 20, 2022 10:19:26 GMT 1
Post by ambryboy on Oct 20, 2022 10:19:26 GMT 1
? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us Shame  |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 20, 2022 10:26:56 GMT 1
? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us If anything shows our lack of ambition - the fact our manager wouldnt be able to manage us in the league above if we were promoted says it all! |
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Oct 20, 2022 10:28:00 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 20, 2022 10:28:00 GMT 1
They were making mistakes when they were not dropped??? Whatever you think of your manager you need to show some character,? He cant drop them all but they all made mistakes last night. I guess we have decided its all down to the manager.? Everyone makes mistakes, it's part of being human. Not everyone has some prick saying they won't be allowed to do their job if they do. I think you might find in todays atmosphere of fear and alarm you get suspended pending a full enquiry?? Footballers get paid a lot more than many poor buggers who 'cant make mistakes'  Danny might have tried the arm round the shoulder and it failed, this blokes gone right the other way and its not working. ? I dont know any of the players personally so cant gauge character or how to manage them, maybe when they all get a month off there might be time to talk it all through? Maybe pay him off and make Hogg player manager, seeing as though Bromby seems to run everything else? |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:18:08 GMT 1
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Post by yappledapple on Oct 20, 2022 11:18:08 GMT 1
Where’s Tino? Has he been completely omitted or injured? He is out probably most the season. Isn’t he out because he’s got glandular fever? |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 20, 2022 11:18:25 GMT 1
They were making mistakes when they were not dropped??? Whatever you think of your manager you need to show some character,? He cant drop them all but they all made mistakes last night. I guess we have decided its all down to the manager.? Full changes then. Bilo Kkh the Japanese lad mbete the northern irish fella Russell Hogg Mahoney diarra Ruffles Ondo We're putting that Bradford fan in goals? |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 20, 2022 11:19:02 GMT 1
Irony (right word? wrong word?) is that we could have done with Nakayama the other night. I'm still not 100% convinced with his defending but his movement for the goal he scored against Stoke was outstanding and was sorely missed when Thomas put a couple of excellent corners in. Or the pass to Rudoni at Rotherham when he was brought down in the box. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 20, 2022 11:19:34 GMT 1
Hardly helpful is it? Or funny. You were saying about dickheads on Twitter. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. , but generally it worked for me. I found it quite cathartic. I live in a very small Welsh town and everybody knows I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, and I feel that the locals judgement of me, albeit unconscious and to a very small degree, is somehow coloured by whoever Town's manager is at the time. I found it difficult when whingey Lee Clark and half the cast of Brookside were running things, but since then it's been OK. Chris Powell was a hit with the Guardian readers and David Wagner, being Klopp's Bezzie, raised my status amongst the many local Liverpool fans. But this guy....... kinell. The loud-mouth, blustering Billy big Bollocks aggression is something I really don't want to be associated with, and the sooner he's gone the better, as far as I'm concerned. If his nemesis turns out to be Johnny Hogg then that would be beautiful poetry. Hoggy's proper hard. He can kill, skin and cook a Swedish elk with one hand AND recover from a broken neck in three days. As a former fat/obese person I have no problem whatsoever with fat-shaming. At 5'0" (grown a bit since then ) and 105kg at age 18 I could have done with a bit of "fat-shaming" back then; might have bucked my ideas up sooner! I'm still not svelte, but I think anyone who gets offended by "fat-shaming" probably knows WHY they're being "fat-shamed" and instead of getting offended should probably try and do something about it? |
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Post by Uddersfield on Oct 20, 2022 11:22:53 GMT 1
Irony (right word? wrong word?) is that we could have done with Nakayama the other night. I'm still not 100% convinced with his defending but his movement for the goal he scored against Stoke was outstanding and was sorely missed when Thomas put a couple of excellent corners in. Or the pass to Rudoni at Rotherham when he was brought down in the box. I think i'd have put him in CM myself as he's played there a few times. Our midfield was weak as piss on Tuesday. Still baffles me how we had 3 CB's still on the pitch after 90 mins when we were 1-0 down. |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:26:15 GMT 1
Post by mosher on Oct 20, 2022 11:26:15 GMT 1
He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us If anything shows our lack of ambition - the fact our manager wouldnt be able to manage us in the league above if we were promoted says it all! I seem to recall there's a loophole where if you get promoted before you've got the badges you're still allowed to manage? |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:31:13 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 20, 2022 11:31:13 GMT 1
Yuta was part of the team that kept a clean sheet against Hull & played really well. Makes one mistake against Rotherham the next game, gets shat on in the media by his manager & dropped for the game after. He then plays a RB at LCB. How many times has Lees been at fault for goals conceded this season? He was literally marking nobody for the goal yesterday. Will he get dropped? No, Fotheringham praised him in the same presser when he outed Yuta even though he was ball watching & lost his man for the first against Rotherham. MF is utterly clueless & a hypocrite. In a nutshell. Lots of posters complain about square pegs in round holes and I think a right back at left centre back, when an international left sided defender is relegated to the bench, is a pretty good example. You have to ask why? Yuta is no inexperienced player. He's played 215 club games and 17 as a full international for Japan. How does MF drop someone with that pedigree, for apparantly one mistake, and throw him under the bus in a media interview, and replace them with a right back? What sort of man management is that? For me that is just shifting the blame. We lost but it wasn't because I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, it's because I didn't have Matty Pearson heading a cross away. Just that Japanese guy with a name too difficult for me to remember. If that is not ringing alarm bells in the Town boardroom then they, and unfortunately us, are lost. Nailed it. Fuck knows what Hoyle and Bromby see in "the Scottish head coach". My guess is that by now they probably realise they've fucked up but don't know how to extricate the club from the problem and still save face. That's the only reason I can see why he's still here. |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:32:32 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 20, 2022 11:32:32 GMT 1
If anything shows our lack of ambition - the fact our manager wouldnt be able to manage us in the league above if we were promoted says it all! I seem to recall there's a loophole where if you get promoted before you've got the badges you're still allowed to manage? I really don't expect that it will be an issue. |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:34:56 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 20, 2022 11:34:56 GMT 1
Shame about the fat-shaming, but generally it worked for me. I found it quite cathartic. I live in a very small Welsh town and everybody knows I'm a Huddersfield Town fan, and I feel that the locals judgement of me, albeit unconscious and to a very small degree, is somehow coloured by whoever Town's manager is at the time. I found it difficult when whingey Lee Clark and half the cast of Brookside were running things, but since then it's been OK. Chris Powell was a hit with the Guardian readers and David Wagner, being Klopp's Bezzie, raised my status amongst the many local Liverpool fans. But this guy....... kinell. The loud-mouth, blustering Billy big Bollocks aggression is something I really don't want to be associated with, and the sooner he's gone the better, as far as I'm concerned. If his nemesis turns out to be Johnny Hogg then that would be beautiful poetry. Hoggy's proper hard. He can kill, skin and cook a Swedish elk with one hand AND recover from a broken neck in three days. As a former fat/obese person I have no problem whatsoever with fat-shaming. At 5'0" (grown a bit since then ) and 105kg at age 18 I could have done with a bit of "fat-shaming" back then; might have bucked my ideas up sooner! I'm still not svelte, but I think anyone who gets offended by "fat-shaming" probably knows WHY they're being "fat-shamed" and instead of getting offended should probably try and do something about it? Wish I was as fat as The Scottish Head Coach. As a current fatty, I have no issue with fat shaming either. |
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Post by incognito on Oct 20, 2022 11:43:23 GMT 1
? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us He has his A-Licence and has done the typical 2 years for a Pro License but for whatever reason has yet to receive the diploma (I'd imagine missed module(s), or simply hasn't finished his dissertation). He'd actually be OK to manage in the Prem as he would meet the requirement to "hold, or have commenced and be actively engaged on the requisite course to obtain, a valid UEFA Pro Licence" - peace of mind for all of us, I'm sure  |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:43:33 GMT 1
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Post by Wingman on Oct 20, 2022 11:43:33 GMT 1
? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us Boro were allowed to have Southgate manage them in the greedy league. Then he got them relegated and moved to the England set-up. I’m off to put a bet on MF getting a Scotland job soon 😂 |
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 20, 2022 11:49:43 GMT 1
? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. He has up to a UEFA B - if we went up (hilarious I know) he wouldn't be able to manage us I can't see us been stuck in this predicament somehow 😂😂 |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:52:57 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 20, 2022 11:52:57 GMT 1
As a former fat/obese person I have no problem whatsoever with fat-shaming. At 5'0" (grown a bit since then ) and 105kg at age 18 I could have done with a bit of "fat-shaming" back then; might have bucked my ideas up sooner! I'm still not svelte, but I think anyone who gets offended by "fat-shaming" probably knows WHY they're being "fat-shamed" and instead of getting offended should probably try and do something about it? Wish I was as fat as The Scottish Head Coach. As a current fatty, I have no issue with fat shaming either. Family and close friends giving 'hard advice and help' isnt fat shaming. The rest is up to you, you either admit the world isnt going to change to suit you or you struggle with it and complain or advertise your size as some sort of 'good thing' ?? Like cigs, put pictures of heart disease on some food and drink? ? We just had 2 years where it became the truth known to all that your weight is a magnet for a virus to get you, if that does not work then nothing will, other than those lucky enough to get a 'final warning' to change their lifestyle choices, we do save a lot more than we used to, or we did.?? |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 20, 2022 12:29:05 GMT 1
Well MF doesn't have a pro license so... ? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. No, Pro is required to manage in the top flight. UEFA A badge is needed for a Championship manager, which is what Schofield and Fotheringham have. Note - this is NOT the equivalent of an old FA Level 1, its broadly same as an old FA Level 4. Lots of folk routinely say, "I'm just as qualified as this donkey" - when they've simply got the broadly tick-in-a-box Level 1 that all those of us who have coached officially in youth football have...which is a LONG way below a UEFA A / FA Level 4 and their pre-req's. We do have a UEFA Pro license holding coach sitting on our bench (not Chicho). |
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Oct 20, 2022 12:32:25 GMT 1
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Post by Drew Peacock on Oct 20, 2022 12:32:25 GMT 1
Well MF doesn't have a pro license so... ? I a simply assumed it was a prerequisite to doing the job. It just gets worse. But what you do learn from this is that Jan Siewert obviously had the badges to manage us in the Premier League, so realistically it means absolutely bugger all. |
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