Wagner

[King Curtis]

Aug 26, 2022 20:15:28 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Aug 26, 2022 19:45:26 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Don't ask me... It's happening though.

Just wondered, it doesn't seem a forward step, for me anyway.

Probably to do with money.

Call me a cynic if you like.

[terriers2000]

wow he is coming back 🙄, jesus he won't come back and the amount of hated towards Schofield is awful, yeah he got us up to the prem but didn't want to carry on because he was scared hmmm that's where the downfall happened for us, don't get me wrong he is a legend but town fans need to understand that he ain't coming back, trust in Schofield and support the lads tomorrow utt

[galpharm2400]

Aug 26, 2022 20:15:28 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Aug 26, 2022 19:45:26 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Don't ask me... It's happening though.

Just wondered, it doesn't seem a forward step, for me anyway.

The money backing Stoke is huge if somebody can get them promoted. Each season outside is costing too much.
Each bloke coming in thinks it can be him.
Its called potential and a gravy train awaits..

[bluedogs, Esq.]

Aug 26, 2022 20:50:29 GMT 1 terriers2000 said:

wow he is coming back 🙄, jesus he won't come back and the amount of hated towards Schofield is awful, yeah he got us up to the prem but didn't want to carry on because he was scared hmmm that's where the downfall happened for us, don't get me wrong he is a legend but town fans need to understand that he ain't coming back, trust in Schofield and support the lads tomorrow utt

Schofield should have started his management career at a lower level the championship was a bridge too far.Howevere he has my support. UTT.

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Aug 26, 2022 21:10:20 GMT 1 bluedogs, Esq. said:

Aug 26, 2022 20:50:29 GMT 1 terriers2000 said:

wow he is coming back 🙄, jesus he won't come back and the amount of hated towards Schofield is awful, yeah he got us up to the prem but didn't want to carry on because he was scared hmmm that's where the downfall happened for us, don't get me wrong he is a legend but town fans need to understand that he ain't coming back, trust in Schofield and support the lads tomorrow utt

Schofield should have started his management career at a lower level the championship was a bridge too far.Howevere he has my support. UTT.

Think it's too early to write him off, we know he gives a shit about the club, he needs to keep us up though, that's imperative.

[galpharm2400]

Danny may have been a stop gap??
Its about timing sometimes..

[28901]

Aug 26, 2022 13:39:46 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Wagner is a Town legend that's for sure but anyone wanting him back has lost the plot. No Plan B, no idea at times, more so in the disastrous 2nd season. He'll be warmly received and rightly so but talk of having him back is a no no for me.

Glad its not just me.
Not only do I suspect he would be a disaster, it would undermine all the good times and memories.

[dalesterrier]

Aug 26, 2022 21:45:47 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Danny may have been a stop gap??
Its about timing sometimes..

For who?

[shawsie]

Aug 26, 2022 20:50:29 GMT 1 terriers2000 said:

wow he is coming back 🙄, jesus he won't come back and the amount of hated towards Schofield is awful, yeah he got us up to the prem but didn't want to carry on because he was scared hmmm that's where the downfall happened for us, don't get me wrong he is a legend but town fans need to understand that he ain't coming back, trust in Schofield and support the lads tomorrow utt

With respect.....some of that is garbage!
Nobody hates schofield - they simply doubt his ability to do the job......and wagner has proved he can do it!
I dont think he will come back....nor am i that bothered if he does or not - that ship sailed long since, however you cant blame fans wanting a return to some form of success and he achieved a unity historically which ive not seen in my lifetime before or since.
Agree re supporting the team and DS tmoro though.

[dugnet]

I wasn't going to attend today but have decided to purely to show my appreciation to DW.

It's nice to get the opportunity as we didn't when he left.

[Porrohman]

Aug 26, 2022 22:26:34 GMT 1 shawsie said:

Aug 26, 2022 20:50:29 GMT 1 terriers2000 said:

wow he is coming back 🙄, jesus he won't come back and the amount of hated towards Schofield is awful, yeah he got us up to the prem but didn't want to carry on because he was scared hmmm that's where the downfall happened for us, don't get me wrong he is a legend but town fans need to understand that he ain't coming back, trust in Schofield and support the lads tomorrow utt

With respect.....some of that is garbage!
Nobody hates schofield - they simply doubt his ability to do the job......and wagner has proved he can do it!
I dont think he will come back....nor am i that bothered if he does or not - that ship sailed long since, however you cant blame fans wanting a return to some form of success and he achieved a unity historically which ive not seen in my lifetime before or since.
Agree re supporting the team and DS tmoro though.

Kaiser Dave had that couple of seasons when the stars aligned, since the 2nd season in the PL his managerial career has been a disaster. Love the bloke but that was then, this is now

[drumriggend]

Really torn on this one..



King David took me to places I never dreamed I’d visit..



45 years of pain and dissatisfaction watching town was swept away by the incredible achievement of those 2016-2018 years ..




Let nobody be under any illusions- his charisma and drive made it happen..



And I would foooooookin love it if he becomes our manager next week..




But..



I’m worried it probably wouldn’t work again—it was a moment in time..




And failure now would sully those memories..



Always a terrier..



Legend..




🍻

[turbo2]

Aug 27, 2022 6:48:16 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Aug 26, 2022 22:26:34 GMT 1 shawsie said:

With respect.....some of that is garbage!
Nobody hates schofield - they simply doubt his ability to do the job......and wagner has proved he can do it!
I dont think he will come back....nor am i that bothered if he does or not - that ship sailed long since, however you cant blame fans wanting a return to some form of success and he achieved a unity historically which ive not seen in my lifetime before or since.
Agree re supporting the team and DS tmoro though.

Kaiser Dave had that couple of seasons when the stars aligned, since the 2nd season in the PL his managerial career has been a disaster. Love the bloke but that was then, this is now

I’m a believer that the vast majority of success in football outside the big spenders is largely down to luck. A time and a place. Like you say, the stars aligned.

What DW achieved with very few additions was way beyond my wildest dreams and gave me and my two girls memories to last our lifetime.

But what has he really done since? Would he possibly repeat his first stint??

I think not. But will always love the bloke for what he did for our club. An absolute legend in my eyes. UTT

[galpharm2400]

He failed in the second premier season. The club failed along with him.
Definite lift for the club now but wether it lasts or works at all, I wouldnt, couldnt even speculate.

[66738]

Part of me would love David to come back as manager/ head coach but the sensible side to me says very rarely does going back for a second stint work out. I’d hate for his legacy to be tainted if he came back and it just didn’t work.
I will give him a huge round of applause today to show my appreciation of what he did for my club. It was the impossible dream.
I also think Danny should be given a fair crack. It would be very unfair for it to be taken away from him after very few games.

[specialun]

Extraordinary man who achieved extraordinary things

To win 24 out of 25 matches in the premier league promotion season by 1 goal - incredible. Sum better than its parts. What a team. He got the absolute maximum out of every squad he had at his disposal

[specialun]

Re Schofield this season will be incredibly difficult

As I said throughout last season that was the easiest opportunity of promotion we’ll see and if we failed we wouldn’t get a better chance - it was in a weak league, 25% teams on minus points / transfer embargo, a great depth in our squad post Xmas, 3 / 4 players who would have got in any championship team (3 now in premier league) available to us - unfortunately Carlos bottled it when it mattered (& officials)

Whoever was to pick up the hangover from that shambles, made worse by Carlos sticking his fingers up at the fans 3 weeks before the season started, short pre season vs others, losing 3 of our best players and a stronger league - hiding to nothing

Schofield pushed in deep end - transition season ahead & Carlos’ first season has to be benchmark

But obviously Wagner better placed. Separate point altogether

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

Aug 27, 2022 9:27:26 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

He failed in the second premier season. The club failed along with him.
Definite lift for the club now but wether it lasts or works at all, I wouldnt, couldnt even speculate.

the whole thing fell apart.  expensive and misfit signings,  Dean getting ill, Wagner touting himself around for other jobs (allegedly).

The perfect storm.  A club imploding. 

If (and this would I think be a massive IF) someone at the club has approached Wagner, it could be a massive mistake.

[Big Ern]

Aug 27, 2022 11:54:44 GMT 1 Farsley Terrier (UK product) said:

Aug 27, 2022 9:27:26 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

He failed in the second premier season. The club failed along with him.
Definite lift for the club now but wether it lasts or works at all, I wouldnt, couldnt even speculate.

the whole thing fell apart.  expensive and misfit signings,  Dean getting ill, Wagner touting himself around for other jobs (allegedly).

The perfect storm.  A club imploding. 

If (and this would I think be a massive IF) someone at the club has approached Wagner, it could be a massive mistake.

I disagree, yes things went sour but that wasn't just Wagner. The players we brought in were mercenaries who were utterly garbage. You can't blame Wagner for Kongolo going from Van Dijk to Trotman in the space of a season.

Wagner also wasn't to blame for Dean getting ill. What he was responsible for was the togetherness, the team spirit and the no limits attitude in our promotion season. I would kill for that atmosphere again.

[blueandwhitemavis]

For me Wagner and Schofield could work together and make a formidable partnership....

UTT

[3Pipe]

Has he signed yet?

[Jack]

Aug 27, 2022 13:22:16 GMT 1 3Pipe said:

Has he signed yet?

Will be announced at half time if we are 2-0 down.

[basil]

Turkeys tend not to vote for Christmas.

Bromby will not employ Wagner.

[jqhtfc]

Aug 27, 2022 6:48:16 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Aug 26, 2022 22:26:34 GMT 1 shawsie said:

With respect.....some of that is garbage!
Nobody hates schofield - they simply doubt his ability to do the job......and wagner has proved he can do it!
I dont think he will come back....nor am i that bothered if he does or not - that ship sailed long since, however you cant blame fans wanting a return to some form of success and he achieved a unity historically which ive not seen in my lifetime before or since.
Agree re supporting the team and DS tmoro though.

Kaiser Dave had that couple of seasons when the stars aligned, since the 2nd season in the PL his managerial career has been a disaster. Love the bloke but that was then, this is now

To be fair it hasn’t been that bad, schalke were a basket case of a club he started well then things behind the scenes went to pot.

[drewden]

Aug 27, 2022 13:12:39 GMT 1 blueandwhitemavis said:

For me Wagner and Schofield could work together and make a formidable partnership....

UTT

Funnily enough I was talking to someone this morning who has connections with players at the club, and this scenario was mentioned.

[mids]

Carlos had three assistants.
Him and one of them left.
Danny and one stayed.
Then another assistant was added.
Now Wagner returns, has three assistants, and a few days to sign some Germans

[3Pipe]

He's currently supplying the German commentary on hesgoal.

[drumriggend]

Wonderful reception for the king..




Brought a tear to my eye..




Sign him up Dean..



Schofield as assistant..



🍻

[finnmurphy1]

Promotion was a truly amazing achievement. Staying up was off the chart. That season seems more extraordinary with every passing year. Seeing us top (very briefly) beating Man U and drawing away with City and Chelsea. Brilliant.

[Porrohman]

Aug 27, 2022 14:49:57 GMT 1 mids said:

Carlos had three assistants.
Him and one of them left.
Danny and one stayed.
Then another assistant was added.
Now Wagner returns, has three assistants, and a few days to sign some Germans

He can't, unless he's bringing in international players, Brexit fucked that for us