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Post by terryya on Apr 12, 2023 12:42:21 GMT 1
True fans would call Bradford over Leeds. Bradford to me are more our rivals than Leeds.In this situation, both dropping would be fantastic. But for a lot of us, the way they won the play off final was a disgrace. The celebrations and chanting about VAR took the absolute piss. Their fans were dead beat moronic arseholes. And last of all they thought they were Billy big bollocks who would get top 6. Forest to be relegated would be hilarious. I wouldn't say "True Fans" mate. I think it's more what era you became a Town fan, mixed with other outside influences. EG since 93 when I started attending regularly it's been Sadford who have been in and around us so have become our fiercest rivals to THAT era of fans. The only reason I despise L***s more than Shitty is because of dad and sis being chestwankers, otherwise I'd probably say Sadford were our main rivals. But everyone I know who became a Town fan prior to the 90's seem to cite L***s as the bigger rivals. I think it depends which team the individual fan grew up seeing us play against, with additional factors (like my dad's side of the family) swaying things either way. Edit: Just to say my hatred of L***s was also nurtured by three of my uncles, who all started going in the late 60s early 70s when Sadford were barely a blip on the radar. This hits the nail on the head. I started watching late 80s and Leeds were so far off our radar it was ridiculous. I think it was almost 15 years before we even played them. We were regularly playing Bradford though so that was the big game for me, especially with Geoffrey Richmond,Kevin Gray etc etc. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 12, 2023 12:44:51 GMT 1
I wouldn't say "True Fans" mate. I think it's more what era you became a Town fan, mixed with other outside influences. EG since 93 when I started attending regularly it's been Sadford who have been in and around us so have become our fiercest rivals to THAT era of fans. The only reason I despise L***s more than Shitty is because of dad and sis being chestwankers, otherwise I'd probably say Sadford were our main rivals. But everyone I know who became a Town fan prior to the 90's seem to cite L***s as the bigger rivals. I think it depends which team the individual fan grew up seeing us play against, with additional factors (like my dad's side of the family) swaying things either way. Edit: Just to say my hatred of L***s was also nurtured by three of my uncles, who all started going in the late 60s early 70s when Sadford were barely a blip on the radar. This hits the nail on the head. I started watching late 80s and Leeds were so far off our radar it was ridiculous. I think it was almost 15 years before we even played them. We were regularly playing Bradford though so that was the big game for me, especially with Geoffrey Richmond,Kevin Gray etc etc. Yeah, I think the Richmond thing and suing KG and all that went around that certainly ramped up the hostilities. Fucker shouldn't have tried snapping Paul Reid  |
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Post by 28901 on Apr 12, 2023 13:36:19 GMT 1
True fans would call Bradford over Leeds. Bradford to me are more our rivals than Leeds. In this situation, both dropping would be fantastic. But for a lot of us, the way they won the play off final was a disgrace. The celebrations and chanting about VAR took the absolute piss. Their fans were dead beat moronic arseholes. And last of all they thought they were Billy big bollocks who would get top 6. Forest to be relegated would be hilarious. True fans would call Bradford over Leeds? I'm sorry but thats patronising tripe. I started watching Town in 1991 and prior to that we'd played 22 league games against Bradford, ever. 11 of 83 seasons in the same league. Yeah we then had a decade or so of them trying to turn it into a major rivalry, their owner being an antagonistic bellend and them often being better than us. And since then...back to normality, nigh on 2 decades of them being 1, 2 or even 3 leagues below us. Compare that to a history of playing Leeds bar the 90s, the history involved in 'them' almost stealing the club from Huddersfield, them spending the first 15 years of their existence playing in our kit, and most of all the massive crossover of fans that exists in the Heavy Woollen District, which contributes a big % of Towns fanbase. I dont think there is anything like the same crossover anywhere between Town fans and Bradford fans. Losing to Bradford is annoying. I hate nothing more than losing to Leeds and I think its fair to say that applies to most town fans, especially ones from north Kirklees. Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. |
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Post by alexdire on Apr 12, 2023 13:45:22 GMT 1
True fans would call Bradford over Leeds? I'm sorry but thats patronising tripe. I started watching Town in 1991 and prior to that we'd played 22 league games against Bradford, ever. 11 of 83 seasons in the same league. Yeah we then had a decade or so of them trying to turn it into a major rivalry, their owner being an antagonistic bellend and them often being better than us. And since then...back to normality, nigh on 2 decades of them being 1, 2 or even 3 leagues below us. Compare that to a history of playing Leeds bar the 90s, the history involved in 'them' almost stealing the club from Huddersfield, them spending the first 15 years of their existence playing in our kit, and most of all the massive crossover of fans that exists in the Heavy Woollen District, which contributes a big % of Towns fanbase. I dont think there is anything like the same crossover anywhere between Town fans and Bradford fans. Losing to Bradford is annoying. I hate nothing more than losing to Leeds and I think its fair to say that applies to most town fans, especially ones from north Kirklees. Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. You're joking. Leeds, every time. Plenty of Leeds fans in the Valleys. Or at least the part I originate from. I've only ever known one Bradford in my life. That is a big contributing factor to the rivalry. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 12, 2023 13:46:14 GMT 1
Have they gone bust yet?
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 12, 2023 13:55:47 GMT 1
True fans would call Bradford over Leeds? I'm sorry but thats patronising tripe. I started watching Town in 1991 and prior to that we'd played 22 league games against Bradford, ever. 11 of 83 seasons in the same league. Yeah we then had a decade or so of them trying to turn it into a major rivalry, their owner being an antagonistic bellend and them often being better than us. And since then...back to normality, nigh on 2 decades of them being 1, 2 or even 3 leagues below us. Compare that to a history of playing Leeds bar the 90s, the history involved in 'them' almost stealing the club from Huddersfield, them spending the first 15 years of their existence playing in our kit, and most of all the massive crossover of fans that exists in the Heavy Woollen District, which contributes a big % of Towns fanbase. I dont think there is anything like the same crossover anywhere between Town fans and Bradford fans. Losing to Bradford is annoying. I hate nothing more than losing to Leeds and I think its fair to say that applies to most town fans, especially ones from north Kirklees. Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. I actually live in the Colne Valley now. When I moved here in 2016 it was an amazingly chest free zone or so it seemed. Since 2020 they've appeared out of the woodwork. Mostly of them will never go anywhere near a game and are just in it for the car sticker. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 12, 2023 14:18:19 GMT 1
Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. I actually live in the Colne Valley now. When I moved here in 2016 it was an amazingly chest free zone or so it seemed. Since 2020 they've appeared out of the woodwork. Mostly of them will never go anywhere near a game and are just in it for the car sticker. Same in Liversedge. Not a single chestwanker on Union Road (or they didn't make themselves known) before 2020, now there's at least half a dozen cars with some kind of two-bob L***s shit in. |
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Post by sabailand on Apr 12, 2023 14:21:38 GMT 1
This side of Batley the rivalry between Town and Leeds is a bit more intense, i have a few Leeds fan mates and they've had lots of digs in the past, other side of Leeds i dont think many of them care that much, some will but apart from wanting to beat us when we play them most wont have any loathing of us.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 12, 2023 14:25:00 GMT 1
I actually live in the Colne Valley now. When I moved here in 2016 it was an amazingly chest free zone or so it seemed. Since 2020 they've appeared out of the woodwork. Mostly of them will never go anywhere near a game and are just in it for the car sticker. Same in Liversedge. Not a single chestwanker on Union Road (or they didn't make themselves known) before 2020, now there's at least half a dozen cars with some kind of two-bob L***s shit in. Can remember when Bradford won promotion to the prem, Hecky was pretty much a Bantam free zone but i started seeing Bradford shirts in the town, it didnt last and its back to being mainly Town/Leeds. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Apr 12, 2023 14:39:00 GMT 1
Watford now do press releases to confirm they aren’t sacking their manager. It’s probably less work than doing them when they are.
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Post by yappledapple on Apr 12, 2023 14:55:24 GMT 1
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Post by shedds on Apr 12, 2023 14:59:10 GMT 1
back in the day more memorable run ins used to be playing bradford and encountering the ointment
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 12, 2023 15:02:51 GMT 1
The owner was jealous because he thought they’d named part of the ground after him. Why did they name that part of the ground after a biscuit anyway. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 12, 2023 15:04:23 GMT 1
back in the day more memorable run ins used to be playing bradford and encountering the ointment Cowardly scum of the lowest order. The main reason I've got ANY rivalry with them BD twats is because of them attacking my uncle while he was with his 5-6 year old daughter. They'd not even lost against us, think it was either 83 or 86 because he said they'd beat us three something and STILL went after "scarfed" supporters and their kids. Traumatised our Becky and she wouldn't go to football for years after that. Obviously their hubris at getting to the Prem didn't help but the above incident is 90% of why I loathe them. Still not close to the L***s hatred though, bloody uncles to blame for that |
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Post by shedds on Apr 12, 2023 15:15:37 GMT 1
rememeber one time getting escort back from valley parade and some of thier lot had managed to get in amongst the back end of escort as we got near centre it kicked off and some innocent ones got caught up in it til police managed to interverne ,then it all kicked off again near and inside interchange with fans who had come by bus
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 12, 2023 15:16:31 GMT 1
This side of Batley the rivalry between Town and Leeds is a bit more intense, i have a few Leeds fan mates and they've had lots of digs in the past, other side of Leeds i dont think many of them care that much, some will but apart from wanting to beat us when we play them most wont have any loathing of us. Entirely understandable. Why would some fucker from Seacroft or Harewood care that much about Town when he probably doesn't know or come across any Town fans. Exact same reason I struggle to care that much about Bradford. By fortune or chance I've simply never really come across them. None at School, none at any jobs I've had, none in any of my youth football teams and certainly none where I live now. That's what hatred is built on, being in and amongst one another. Incidentally I've met 2 Halifax fans before and they both were almost raging when I said I was a Town fan. Bizarre |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Apr 12, 2023 15:28:22 GMT 1
Lived up Bennett Lane, Dewsbury until I was 18, which is the Leeds side of Dewsbury. Loads of Leeds up there as you would expect. Only ever met one Bradford fan in my 22 years in the RAF. Which is strange as they get crowds of 30,000 plus each week😂😂
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Apr 12, 2023 16:01:51 GMT 1
This side of Batley the rivalry between Town and Leeds is a bit more intense, i have a few Leeds fan mates and they've had lots of digs in the past, other side of Leeds i dont think many of them care that much, some will but apart from wanting to beat us when we play them most wont have any loathing of us. Entirely understandable. Why would some fucker from Seacroft or Harewood care that much about Town when he probably doesn't know or come across any Town fans. Exact same reason I struggle to care that much about Bradford. By fortune or chance I've simply never really come across them. None at School, none at any jobs I've had, none in any of my youth football teams and certainly none where I live now. That's what hatred is built on, being in and amongst one another. Incidentally I've met 2 Halifax fans before and they both were almost raging when I said I was a Town fan. Bizarre Funny you mention Halifax, I get the impression from the handful of Shaymen I've known that they don't hold us lot in high regard. I think they find the way a lot of Town fans consider them a sort of "second team" a bit patronising, which is understandable. The team I consider either our "main rival" or even just the most hated does change over time though. During the 90s Leeds barely registered as we never played them, I even had a bit of a soft spot* for them because they were West Yorkshire's only top-flight team, until my dad put me right. Right now my "most hated" top five list is (from worst to least-worst): Notts Forest Beeston Massive Citeh Brum Manningham are barely on my radar. *- in my defence, I was young and daft, and as we hadn't played them since I started watching I wasn't aware of the history. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 12, 2023 16:16:32 GMT 1
Couldn’t agree more mate. How any Town fan can want another team to be relegated ahead of Leeds is utterly beyond me. In this situation, both dropping would be fantastic. But for a lot of us, the way they won the play off final was a disgrace. The celebrations and chanting about VAR took the absolute piss. Their fans were dead beat moronic arseholes. And last of all they thought they were Billy big bollocks who would get top 6. Forest to be relegated would be hilarious. I've been a fan since 1987 and I've never considered The Chickens to be bigger rivals. Pre Geoffrey Richmond I just saw them and us as local rivals united by a hatred of the Beeston Chestwankers. TBH, we've been consistently so much better than them for so long that they've begun to drop off my radar. They're just a useful club to send our youth prospects to. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 12, 2023 16:37:18 GMT 1
True fans would call Bradford over Leeds? I'm sorry but thats patronising tripe. I started watching Town in 1991 and prior to that we'd played 22 league games against Bradford, ever. 11 of 83 seasons in the same league. Yeah we then had a decade or so of them trying to turn it into a major rivalry, their owner being an antagonistic bellend and them often being better than us. And since then...back to normality, nigh on 2 decades of them being 1, 2 or even 3 leagues below us. Compare that to a history of playing Leeds bar the 90s, the history involved in 'them' almost stealing the club from Huddersfield, them spending the first 15 years of their existence playing in our kit, and most of all the massive crossover of fans that exists in the Heavy Woollen District, which contributes a big % of Towns fanbase. I dont think there is anything like the same crossover anywhere between Town fans and Bradford fans. Losing to Bradford is annoying. I hate nothing more than losing to Leeds and I think its fair to say that applies to most town fans, especially ones from north Kirklees. Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. Possibly not, although I was Oakes/Lindley and my formative years were around the time of the Geoffrey Richmond/Gordon T. Watson spell. That certainly ramped up the animosity but L***s were always the main rivals. |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Apr 12, 2023 16:49:53 GMT 1
Local minnows, Bradford City😉
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 12, 2023 17:38:56 GMT 1
This side of Batley the rivalry between Town and Leeds is a bit more intense, i have a few Leeds fan mates and they've had lots of digs in the past, other side of Leeds i dont think many of them care that much, some will but apart from wanting to beat us when we play them most wont have any loathing of us. Entirely understandable. Why would some fucker from Seacroft or Harewood care that much about Town when he probably doesn't know or come across any Town fans. Exact same reason I struggle to care that much about Bradford. By fortune or chance I've simply never really come across them. None at School, none at any jobs I've had, none in any of my youth football teams and certainly none where I live now. That's what hatred is built on, being in and amongst one another. Incidentally I've met 2 Halifax fans before and they both were almost raging when I said I was a Town fan. Bizarre Interesting- I’ve only ever come across a couple of Halifax fans and they too hated Town with some venom. Personally, Bradford were main rivals for me as I never saw us against Leeds for the first decade or so I supported Town - early 70s to early 80s whereas there always seemed to be something with Bradford, the worst of which was their fans hurling bricks and stones into the VP open end from outside the ground in 1978/79 after Peter Fletcher (?) scored a very late equaliser. It was raining rocks on my and my old man. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 12, 2023 17:57:21 GMT 1
Entirely understandable. Why would some fucker from Seacroft or Harewood care that much about Town when he probably doesn't know or come across any Town fans. Exact same reason I struggle to care that much about Bradford. By fortune or chance I've simply never really come across them. None at School, none at any jobs I've had, none in any of my youth football teams and certainly none where I live now. That's what hatred is built on, being in and amongst one another. Incidentally I've met 2 Halifax fans before and they both were almost raging when I said I was a Town fan. Bizarre Funny you mention Halifax, I get the impression from the handful of Shaymen I've known that they don't hold us lot in high regard. I think they find the way a lot of Town fans consider them a sort of "second team" a bit patronising, which is understandable. The team I consider either our "main rival" or even just the most hated does change over time though. During the 90s Leeds barely registered as we never played them, I even had a bit of a soft spot* for them because they were West Yorkshire's only top-flight team, until my dad put me right. Right now my "most hated" top five list is (from worst to least-worst): Notts Forest Beeston Massive Citeh Brum Manningham are barely on my radar. *- in my defence, I was young and daft, and as we hadn't played them since I started watching I wasn't aware of the history. Yep. A mate of mine was from Elland but moved to Huddersfield when he'd already become a Shayman. I've been to a few of their games with him. We're generally referred to there as "The Poodles". They don't like us much, and although the mates he was with knew where my true allegiance lay, nobody else did and I kept quiet. Still, we're not Burnley. Bloody glad your Dad put you right regarding the Chestwankers. That comment almost made me vomit! |
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 12, 2023 18:07:44 GMT 1
I actually live in the Colne Valley now. When I moved here in 2016 it was an amazingly chest free zone or so it seemed. Since 2020 they've appeared out of the woodwork. Mostly of them will never go anywhere near a game and are just in it for the car sticker. Same in Liversedge. Not a single chestwanker on Union Road (or they didn't make themselves known) before 2020, now there's at least half a dozen cars with some kind of two-bob L***s shit in. And they look surprised when you don't  them out into traffic. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 12, 2023 18:14:34 GMT 1
Being from Keighley & working all my working life in the Bradford area, I hate Bradford much more than Leeds. The season City got promoted to the Premiership I had people I'd worked with for a few years coming up to me going on about City, yet most of them I genuinely hadn't realised they were football fans as we'd never had a conversation about football before.
Quite a few of my mates are, naturally, Bradford fans & we have banter but I can't think of any team I'd like Bradford to beat, with the possible recent exception of Forest. Yet growing up, none of my mates were City fans, they were mostly Burnley, Man Utd & Leeds, in that order, nobody supported City full stop in the 70s & early 80s, let alone in Keighley.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 12, 2023 18:20:29 GMT 1
True fans would call Bradford over Leeds? I'm sorry but thats patronising tripe. I started watching Town in 1991 and prior to that we'd played 22 league games against Bradford, ever. 11 of 83 seasons in the same league. Yeah we then had a decade or so of them trying to turn it into a major rivalry, their owner being an antagonistic bellend and them often being better than us. And since then...back to normality, nigh on 2 decades of them being 1, 2 or even 3 leagues below us. Compare that to a history of playing Leeds bar the 90s, the history involved in 'them' almost stealing the club from Huddersfield, them spending the first 15 years of their existence playing in our kit, and most of all the massive crossover of fans that exists in the Heavy Woollen District, which contributes a big % of Towns fanbase. I dont think there is anything like the same crossover anywhere between Town fans and Bradford fans. Losing to Bradford is annoying. I hate nothing more than losing to Leeds and I think its fair to say that applies to most town fans, especially ones from north Kirklees. Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. Wanna bet ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 12, 2023 18:23:35 GMT 1
Exactly I don't think the fans out in the Holme or Colne valleys etc have quite the same intensity with Leeds as those in the Heavy Woollen and surrounds. You're joking. Leeds, every time. Plenty of Leeds fans in the Valleys. Or at least the part I originate from. I've only ever known one Bradford in my life. That is a big contributing factor to the rivalry. I worked in Bradford for 18 years and lived there for 4 years and I still don't know more than about a dozen City fans. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 12, 2023 18:27:42 GMT 1
You're joking. Leeds, every time. Plenty of Leeds fans in the Valleys. Or at least the part I originate from. I've only ever known one Bradford in my life. That is a big contributing factor to the rivalry. I worked in Bradford for 18 years and lived there for 4 years and I still don't know more than about a dozen City fans. Good move. Best avoided. |
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Post by 28901 on Apr 12, 2023 18:44:44 GMT 1
You're joking. Leeds, every time. Plenty of Leeds fans in the Valleys. Or at least the part I originate from. I've only ever known one Bradford in my life. That is a big contributing factor to the rivalry. I worked in Bradford for 18 years and lived there for 4 years and I still don't know more than about a dozen City fans. Theres a few in Wyke I know. I think south Bradford was Park Avenue territory historically. Plus they were only getting 3k in div 4 when I was a youth. |
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