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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 18, 2023 13:04:29 GMT 1
The PL is corrupt. It’s just a matter of time before someone manages to prove it. Nobody will care by then anyway, VAR is proving that it’s still not going to be B&W with all the levelling up tech they have. The money men that own these clubs aren’t going to see their enjoyment curtailed by fair play. Some of those owners will be like this bloke… It’s a cesspit of shithousing and bias. We all want to get there but in reality hate what it is. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 18, 2023 13:15:05 GMT 1
Must be a first for DATM surely  though what Oti's cousin has to do with it, I have no idea. thats a bit harsh Sorry, Allan, not with you? |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Apr 18, 2023 13:33:31 GMT 1
Attachment DeletedThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 18, 2023 13:36:19 GMT 1
View AttachmentThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game. It's Pritchard. Perfectly justifiable if you ask me. |
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Post by ACW on Apr 18, 2023 13:45:22 GMT 1
View AttachmentThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game. That would be a foul in rugby league, never mind football. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 18, 2023 14:02:05 GMT 1
View AttachmentThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game. It's Pritchard. Perfectly justifiable if you ask me. I’m just surprised the Ref didn’t spot it. Their defender must have had to kneel down… |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 18, 2023 14:22:11 GMT 1
It's Pritchard. Perfectly justifiable if you ask me. I’m just surprised the Ref didn’t spot it. Their defender must have had to kneel down… His feet were simultaneously at head height and planted on the floor. |
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 18, 2023 14:23:35 GMT 1
Sent of Mounie against Brighton I think. We were 1-0 up and lost 2-1. Totally changed the way our season was going. I think Wagner then realised that little teams aren't wanted in the PL. We were playing Brighton though, Kenny. Hardly a big club....we got promoted with them! It was just a crap decision. Same as his decision to send Hoggy off at Watford for 2 yellows when neither was a yellow card |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 18, 2023 14:46:17 GMT 1
Pritchard disallowed goal V Liverpool to equalise late on for offside when he was nowhere near offside too.
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 18, 2023 14:48:47 GMT 1
View AttachmentThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game. Not enough contact. that was potato heads comment on it. Funny someone farts and his mate salah falls over and its defo a pen. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 18, 2023 15:06:19 GMT 1
Enough contact for mounie though 🤦♂️
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Post by ldr on Apr 18, 2023 16:13:07 GMT 1
Milner’s handball in the FA Cup match?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 18, 2023 16:15:19 GMT 1
Sorry, Allan, not with you? I think opprobrium means harsh judgement, just checked Mr Google harsh judgement is close enough |
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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 18, 2023 16:39:34 GMT 1
50 pages and 150,000 viewing looks - The Twigs, Treetards, Florests or whatever have certainly captured the imagination of DATM for sure...
From ma own perspective I definitely admired them as a team around 1980 but am delighted that I picked Huddersfield Town without doubt - two European Cups or not !!!
I haven’t wasted one ounce of energy on whether they stay up or plummet down or not -
I have though wasted plenty negative energy and hatred on bent, dishonest and corrupt despicable cheats called Jon Moss and Paul Tierney !
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 18, 2023 16:41:37 GMT 1
View AttachmentThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game. Said at the time, I can see why Mounie got his red card. Dangled his foot there and made contact just below the players knee as the two of them came together. Might have been harsh.. might have been.. but it wasnt a shocker by the ref. Not giving us the pen for the foul of Pritchard though.. that was a shocker! |
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Post by detox on Apr 18, 2023 17:19:50 GMT 1
Yep. At the time, I didn't think they were penalties either so I went home disappointed (both at the result and the graceless behaviour of the opposition fans) but with no feelings of injustice. Watching them replayed - which is what Tierney will have done - both were absolutely stonewall. Obvious. Tierney deserves more opprobrium than Moss. Also, I am a bit shit at remembering referees. What did Oliver do? Thats presuming Tierney didnt suggest to Moss that he take a look at it. he might have done and Moss just turn him down. Wouldn't put that past Moss. Chances are though Tierney just decided it wasnt a clear and obvious mistake, despite what the pictures were clearly showing. Wouldn't put that past Tierney. Just a blatant, potentially corrupt, level of incompetence from one or both of them. I thought the verdict on the O'Brien one was that he'd lost control of the ball..ie it was too far away from him.. If that was a genuine reason then it basically means you can hack anyone down in the box provided the ball is more than 3 yards away..? Tiernay was probably topping up his G&T while this was happening, staggered back to the screen and just copped out because he was pissed..
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 18, 2023 18:00:04 GMT 1
I’ll not change my view that we were beaten by the powers that be last May. Forest were the fairy tale for them, nearly bottom after a few games, then clawed their way up there to be in contention for an automatic spot. Past European Cup winners were far more attractive to the people who run the game than Town. (despite Town probably being in contention for longer than Forest were)
The penalty decisions weren’t the only things that Jon Moss got wrong that day, some innocuous stuff was given.
The fairy tale has run its course now, are Forest now expendable to the PL, are their supporters realising that they’re not really the big story any more?
As much as some Forest supporters have been knobs, it’s PGMOL and the PL who are at the centre of every controversy and are still able to plough on unchallenged.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 18, 2023 18:09:10 GMT 1
View AttachmentThe red card for Mounie was far from the worst decision in the game v Brighton. The decision not to give a penalty for the assault on Alex Pritchard is what cost us that game. Not enough contact. that was potato heads comment on it. Funny someone farts and his mate salah falls over and its defo a pen. What about Joe Allan rugby tacking Mooy in the box against Stoke and Potato Head said it wasn't a penalty but a slight coming together in our box should've been a stonewall one for them 🙄 |
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Post by terriers321 on Apr 18, 2023 18:10:14 GMT 1
I dont like Forest. There supporters are some of the most deluded dickheads in the footballing pyramid.
But as far as corruption etc goes. It was just terrible refereeing as far as im concerned. Every club in the country claims they are victims or been turned over by the powers that be at somepoint. Its happened to us before and will again. Unfortunately that one was such an important game for us.
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 18, 2023 18:21:52 GMT 1
I dont like Forest. There supporters are some of the most deluded dickheads in the footballing pyramid. But as far as corruption etc goes. It was just terrible refereeing as far as im concerned. Every club in the country claims they are victims or been turned over by the powers that be at somepoint. Its happened to us before and will again. Unfortunately that one was such an important game for us. Not having it. VAR has every angle. Human error was supposed to be removed. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 18:27:13 GMT 1
Kind of my point. On balance of play I thought they were marginally the better of two sides who were scarcely even a shadow of the form they'd shown all season. But even if we'd battered them from first minute to last - that's not why we were robbed. Sometimes the better side on the day loses. It's frustrating but it's part of the game. I still maintain my belief that Jon Moss and Paul Tierney were deliberately working to favour the "correct" outcome. It was the officials - who I still believe to be corrupt - who robbed us. We can all laugh at Leeds getting stuffed at home by Liverpool but its like they don't even care about showing the deliberate bias anymore. Absolute blatant and deliberate handball in the build up to the game changing first goal. VAR is the worst thing to ever happen to football. They are laughing in the face of those fans who make the effort to attend. Second worst. You're forgetting half-and-half scarves. |
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Post by huddersfc on Apr 18, 2023 19:16:28 GMT 1
The point of VAR was to remove errors and the controversy, and to get decisions correct. Now instead of the referees being talked about, VAR has replaced the conversation. Now it just takes some of the excitement out of the live games for the fans that turn up, while everyone sits and watches a screen saying VAR is checking for whatever its looking at. Like pretty much everything else it was brought in without any say by the fans who turn out and pay their money. As a season ticket holder for all Prem clubs they could have had a basic ballot with Yes or No on, or logging in to your clubs ticket page to vote on it. The powers that be must think that people enjoy sitting and waiting for 5 minutes freezing cold at the ground, while some bloke in an office miles away draws some lines to see if someones toe is a millimetre offside. Or while they sit looking at every angle slowed down making it look worse, when the referee had the best view of it at full speed to make the call.
There is no consistency from game to game even on the same day with things like handballs. When it was first talked about, I thought it was going to just be used to avoid absolutely clear mistakes, so to take out of the game things like the ball being punched into the goal, someone elbowing someone in back play where the officials havnt seen it or where 2 yellow cards are issued and the player not sent off, or when a red card is given to an incorrect player. Decisions where there is no debate, not even stonewall penalties, ones that are 100% factual. Yet here we are years after being brought in, and no-one still knows how they are getting to the decisions, and why so much is wrong. Why with VAR are clubs having to be apologised to for bad decisions? I mean if you are making bad decisions when you have all the time in the world to watch replays of it, then the official should be just removed because they arent up to the job.
What do you expect though, when the people in charge of bringing about these changes still think we need to see a player booked for taking his shirt off. I mean its so offensive and degrading to see a player do that we must start introducing a straight red for it I reckon. Set of wankers.
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Post by Orinoco on Apr 18, 2023 20:09:13 GMT 1
We can all laugh at Leeds getting stuffed at home by Liverpool but its like they don't even care about showing the deliberate bias anymore. Absolute blatant and deliberate handball in the build up to the game changing first goal. VAR is the worst thing to ever happen to football. They are laughing in the face of those fans who make the effort to attend. Second worst. You're forgetting half-and-half scarves. Always got kids 1 for finals, won't be releasing the Reading 1 unless Town are safe and Reading aint!! |
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Post by stevecato64 on Apr 18, 2023 22:20:27 GMT 1
Looks like many of the Forest are thinking they are gone..
Comments on their forum about us..
“ Look forward to six points “
“ getting the fireworks ready “
“Look forward to battering them at that frozen dump
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 18, 2023 22:28:56 GMT 1
Looks like many of the Forest are thinking they are gone.. Comments on their forum about us.. “ Look forward to six points “ “ getting the fireworks ready “ “Look forward to battering them at that frozen dump “ That's weird. They seemed so convinced that they'd never play us again. |
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Post by space hardware on Apr 18, 2023 22:33:16 GMT 1
Looks like many of the Forest are thinking they are gone.. Comments on their forum about us.. “ Look forward to six points “ “ getting the fireworks ready “ “Look forward to battering them at that frozen dump “ They're more convinced that we'll stay up than I am 🤭 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 22:42:50 GMT 1
Looks like many of the Forest are thinking they are gone.. Comments on their forum about us.. “ Look forward to six points “ “ getting the fireworks ready “ “Look forward to battering them at that frozen dump “ That's weird. They seemed so convinced that they'd never play us again. Funny, isn't it? All these so-called "sleeping giants" think that a promotion to the top tier will reawaken them and propel them to former glories - only to find that football's moved on, everything has changed, they've been left behind - and kids today don't even know who they are. Replace "Accrington Stanley" with "Nottingham Forest". Same vibes. Same applies to a certain team just over the road. Oh dear, oh well, never mind - bless their cotton socks. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 18, 2023 23:17:57 GMT 1
The point of VAR was to remove errors and the controversy, and to get decisions correct. Now instead of the referees being talked about, VAR has replaced the conversation. Now it just takes some of the excitement out of the live games for the fans that turn up, while everyone sits and watches a screen saying VAR is checking for whatever its looking at. Like pretty much everything else it was brought in without any say by the fans who turn out and pay their money. As a season ticket holder for all Prem clubs they could have had a basic ballot with Yes or No on, or logging in to your clubs ticket page to vote on it. The powers that be must think that people enjoy sitting and waiting for 5 minutes freezing cold at the ground, while some bloke in an office miles away draws some lines to see if someones toe is a millimetre offside. Or while they sit looking at every angle slowed down making it look worse, when the referee had the best view of it at full speed to make the call. There is no consistency from game to game even on the same day with things like handballs. When it was first talked about, I thought it was going to just be used to avoid absolutely clear mistakes, so to take out of the game things like the ball being punched into the goal, someone elbowing someone in back play where the officials havnt seen it or where 2 yellow cards are issued and the player not sent off, or when a red card is given to an incorrect player. Decisions where there is no debate, not even stonewall penalties, ones that are 100% factual. Yet here we are years after being brought in, and no-one still knows how they are getting to the decisions, and why so much is wrong. Why with VAR are clubs having to be apologised to for bad decisions? I mean if you are making bad decisions when you have all the time in the world to watch replays of it, then the official should be just removed because they arent up to the job. What do you expect though, when the people in charge of bringing about these changes still think we need to see a player booked for taking his shirt off. I mean its so offensive and degrading to see a player do that we must start introducing a straight red for it I reckon. Set of wankers. You do realise that "offence" is to stop unauthorised advertising, don't you? A financial decision, nothing more, nothing less. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Apr 18, 2023 23:46:22 GMT 1
The point of VAR was to remove errors and the controversy, and to get decisions correct. Now instead of the referees being talked about, VAR has replaced the conversation. Now it just takes some of the excitement out of the live games for the fans that turn up, while everyone sits and watches a screen saying VAR is checking for whatever its looking at. Like pretty much everything else it was brought in without any say by the fans who turn out and pay their money. As a season ticket holder for all Prem clubs they could have had a basic ballot with Yes or No on, or logging in to your clubs ticket page to vote on it. The powers that be must think that people enjoy sitting and waiting for 5 minutes freezing cold at the ground, while some bloke in an office miles away draws some lines to see if someones toe is a millimetre offside. Or while they sit looking at every angle slowed down making it look worse, when the referee had the best view of it at full speed to make the call. There is no consistency from game to game even on the same day with things like handballs. When it was first talked about, I thought it was going to just be used to avoid absolutely clear mistakes, so to take out of the game things like the ball being punched into the goal, someone elbowing someone in back play where the officials havnt seen it or where 2 yellow cards are issued and the player not sent off, or when a red card is given to an incorrect player. Decisions where there is no debate, not even stonewall penalties, ones that are 100% factual. Yet here we are years after being brought in, and no-one still knows how they are getting to the decisions, and why so much is wrong. Why with VAR are clubs having to be apologised to for bad decisions? I mean if you are making bad decisions when you have all the time in the world to watch replays of it, then the official should be just removed because they arent up to the job. What do you expect though, when the people in charge of bringing about these changes still think we need to see a player booked for taking his shirt off. I mean its so offensive and degrading to see a player do that we must start introducing a straight red for it I reckon. Set of wankers. You do realise that "offence" is to stop unauthorised advertising, don't you? A financial decision, nothing more, nothing less. If that's the real thinking behind it, it makes even less sense. Why not just book players who actually remove their shirt to display an "unauthorised advert" then? |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Apr 19, 2023 1:00:57 GMT 1
Thought the taking off the shirt thing was that some overseas audiences find it offensive, i.e Middle East and China?
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though what Oti's cousin has to do with it, I have no idea.
