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Post by griffa on Apr 19, 2023 1:03:15 GMT 1
Forest = twats
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 19, 2023 6:54:05 GMT 1
Looks like many of the Forest are thinking they are gone.. Comments on their forum about us.. “ Look forward to six points “ “ getting the fireworks ready “ “Look forward to battering them at that frozen dump “ Strange description of "the world famous" Shitty Ground |
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 19, 2023 6:56:25 GMT 1
Thought the taking off the shirt thing was that some overseas audiences find it offensive, i.e Middle East and China? I can't work out how football managed for over a hundred years without someone taking their shirt off to celebrate a goal 🤨🙄 |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Apr 19, 2023 9:34:41 GMT 1
Thats presuming Tierney didnt suggest to Moss that he take a look at it. he might have done and Moss just turn him down. Wouldn't put that past Moss. Chances are though Tierney just decided it wasnt a clear and obvious mistake, despite what the pictures were clearly showing. Wouldn't put that past Tierney. Just a blatant, potentially corrupt, level of incompetence from one or both of them. I thought the verdict on the O'Brien one was that he'd lost control of the ball..ie it was too far away from him.. If that was a genuine reason then it basically means you can hack anyone down in the box provided the ball is more than 3 yards away..? Tiernay was probably topping up his G&T while this was happening, staggered back to the screen and just copped out because he was pissed..
'...the replays were inconclusive...' on the Toffolo one? No. No they were not: It was a CLEAR pen and an obvious error for VAR to overturn, the above leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 19, 2023 9:44:15 GMT 1
I thought the verdict on the O'Brien one was that he'd lost control of the ball..ie it was too far away from him.. If that was a genuine reason then it basically means you can hack anyone down in the box provided the ball is more than 3 yards away..? Tiernay was probably topping up his G&T while this was happening, staggered back to the screen and just copped out because he was pissed..
'...the replays were inconclusive...' on the Toffolo one? No. No they were not:It was a CLEAR pen and an obvious error for VAR to overturn, the above leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever.Jack Clarke was interviewed on television afterwards saying that the moments taken for the VAR review were the longest in his life because he admitted that there had been contact and was worried that they would give it. It was accidental (he said) but there definitely was contact. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 19, 2023 12:03:13 GMT 1
Are we really still going on about this?
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Post by Sio on Apr 19, 2023 12:16:43 GMT 1
I thought the verdict on the O'Brien one was that he'd lost control of the ball..ie it was too far away from him.. If that was a genuine reason then it basically means you can hack anyone down in the box provided the ball is more than 3 yards away..? Tiernay was probably topping up his G&T while this was happening, staggered back to the screen and just copped out because he was pissed..
'...the replays were inconclusive...' on the Toffolo one? No. No they were not: It was a CLEAR pen and an obvious error for VAR to overturn, the above leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever. It's absolute madness that that wasn't given. As clear a penalty as you'll see. I'll never accept that there wasn't deliberate or subconscious favouritism going on that day. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Apr 19, 2023 12:23:16 GMT 1
Are we really still going on about this? Yes. It’s still an issue isn’t it? Despite clear evidence that it’s corrupt it still goes on. Look at that Brighton penalty shout at Spurs the other week. What possible reason is there, other than corruption, that the penalty wasn’t given? No other explanation makes any sense because you can see clear contact, you can see it’s an obvious error on the refs part, so why? The injustice of the Premier League will bug me for life, as will that Play-Off final. It was just plain wrong and sport simply shouldn’t be like that. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 19, 2023 12:39:36 GMT 1
'...the replays were inconclusive...' on the Toffolo one? No. No they were not: It was a CLEAR pen and an obvious error for VAR to overturn, the above leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever. It's absolute madness that that wasn't given. As clear a penalty as you'll see. I'll never accept that there wasn't deliberate or subconscious favouritism going on that day. The whole story was Forest at Wembley and a chance at getting back to the Prem. We were playing the role of stooges. Everything about Wembley this last time was shite. Pub allocation. The time of the kick off. The fact we all had work the next day. Forest fans behaving like proper brats and prats. The ref. VAR. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 19, 2023 12:56:54 GMT 1
It's absolute madness that that wasn't given. As clear a penalty as you'll see. I'll never accept that there wasn't deliberate or subconscious favouritism going on that day. The whole story was Forest at Wembley and a chance at getting back to the Prem. We were playing the role of stooges. Everything about Wembley this last time was shite. Pub allocation. The time of the kick off. The fact we all had work the next day. Forest fans behaving like proper brats and prats. The ref. VAR. Agree. My worst experience ever at a football match including the hours before and after the game. |
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Post by Sio on Apr 19, 2023 13:26:53 GMT 1
It's absolute madness that that wasn't given. As clear a penalty as you'll see. I'll never accept that there wasn't deliberate or subconscious favouritism going on that day. The whole story was Forest at Wembley and a chance at getting back to the Prem. We were playing the role of stooges. Everything about Wembley this last time was shite. Pub allocation. The time of the kick off. The fact we all had work the next day. Forest fans behaving like proper brats and prats. The ref. VAR. Yep, can't say I enjoyed anything about that day from the off - and it felt far too predictable even on the journey down. |
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Post by yappledapple on Apr 19, 2023 13:45:56 GMT 1
Enjoyed the Challenge cup final more that weekend and then the banging CL final atmosphere in a London city centre pub; the actual playoff final was a complete damp squib and non-event 🤷♂️
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 19, 2023 13:52:53 GMT 1
'...the replays were inconclusive...' on the Toffolo one? No. No they were not: It was a CLEAR pen and an obvious error for VAR to overturn, the above leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever. It's absolute madness that that wasn't given. As clear a penalty as you'll see. I'll never accept that there wasn't deliberate or subconscious favouritism going on that day. Or as I call it. CHEATING |
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Post by bluemond on Apr 19, 2023 14:02:29 GMT 1
Enjoyed the Challenge cup final more that weekend and then the banging CL final atmosphere in a London city centre pub; the actual playoff final was a complete damp squib and non-event 🤷♂️ Same here, spent the evening watching the CL final in the Exmouth Arms pub at Euston after travelling back from Tottenham, before catching the train back up to our Northampton hotel. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 19, 2023 14:02:50 GMT 1
Are we really still going on about this? Yes. It’s still an issue isn’t it? Despite clear evidence that it’s corrupt it still goes on. Look at that Brighton penalty shout at Spurs the other week. What possible reason is there, other than corruption, that the penalty wasn’t given? No other explanation makes any sense because you can see clear contact, you can see it’s an obvious error on the refs part, so why? The injustice of the Premier League will bug me for life, as will that Play-Off final. It was just plain wrong and sport simply shouldn’t be like that. There is absolutely nothing that can be done about it by the common fan, short of a mass boycott of the game. Yes we were robbed at Wembley, but there is zero that can be done about it and it has long since passed, going over and over it just makes us look bitter. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 19, 2023 14:05:55 GMT 1
It's absolute madness that that wasn't given. As clear a penalty as you'll see. I'll never accept that there wasn't deliberate or subconscious favouritism going on that day. The whole story was Forest at Wembley and a chance at getting back to the Prem. We were playing the role of stooges. Everything about Wembley this last time was shite. Pub allocation. The time of the kick off. The fact we all had work the next day. Forest fans behaving like proper brats and prats. The ref. VAR. Even worse... I had my wallet lifted... By Town fans.  I was quite literally robbed! Had it while in seats, but half way down the stairs coming out it was gone. Never keep a wallet in my back pocket since. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 19, 2023 14:18:53 GMT 1
I get the bitterness thing, but isn’t that part of what makes supporters tick?
You have to have some sort of simmering grudge in your locker.
I think in the main the beef is with PGMOL and their use of VAR, that’s obviously a wider discussion.
There’s people that would still lynch Michael Oliver when he next returns as well.
I think moving on from things that demonstrate bias towards the football authorities shaping things in their perfect image, you allow those people to cement that bias, leading to the corruption of the sport.
Life has never been ‘fair’, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a grumble about things like this once in a while.
It would appear plenty of other supporters from other clubs have commented on that final last year, maybe Forest are just the current pantomime villains, providing some respite for the usual suspects?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 19, 2023 15:00:46 GMT 1
over simplified and very generous. |
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Post by detox on Apr 19, 2023 15:09:16 GMT 1
I get the bitterness thing, but isn’t that part of what makes supporters tick? You have to have some sort of simmering grudge in your locker. I think in the main the beef is with PGMOL and their use of VAR, that’s obviously a wider discussion. There’s people that would still lynch Michael Oliver when he next returns as well. I think moving on from things that demonstrate bias towards the football authorities shaping things in their perfect image, you allow those people to cement that bias, leading to the corruption of the sport. Life has never been ‘fair’, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a grumble about things like this once in a while. It would appear plenty of other supporters from other clubs have commented on that final last year, maybe Forest are just the current pantomime villains, providing some respite for the usual suspects? Was there ever a final (published) response from the PGMOL or EFL, or anybody ? Did Town actually get a reply to the complaint ? |
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Post by Orinoco on Apr 19, 2023 15:36:28 GMT 1
I get the bitterness thing, but isn’t that part of what makes supporters tick? You have to have some sort of simmering grudge in your locker. I think in the main the beef is with PGMOL and their use of VAR, that’s obviously a wider discussion. There’s people that would still lynch Michael Oliver when he next returns as well. I think moving on from things that demonstrate bias towards the football authorities shaping things in their perfect image, you allow those people to cement that bias, leading to the corruption of the sport. Life has never been ‘fair’, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a grumble about things like this once in a while. It would appear plenty of other supporters from other clubs have commented on that final last year, maybe Forest are just the current pantomime villains, providing some respite for the usual suspects? Was there ever a final (published) response from the PGMOL or EFL, or anybody ? Did Town actually get a reply to the complaint ? Very much doubt it, they are piss, whinging and moaning about officials at the moment, swings and roundabouts!!! |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Apr 19, 2023 15:49:27 GMT 1
Thought the taking off the shirt thing was that some overseas audiences find it offensive, i.e Middle East and China? Let them be offended. If they were that fussed they wouldn't buy our clubs, then we'd maybe have something slightly closer to a level playing field. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 19, 2023 15:55:54 GMT 1
Are we really still going on about this? We were still going on about the relative merits or otherwise of Lee Clark when we were in the Premier League, so it shouldn't be surprising. And TBF Brighton and Palace rivalry stuck after a smaller controversy nearly 50 years ago. I expect this one will last a while. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 19, 2023 17:41:59 GMT 1
Agree can’t stand their fan base , where as with Leeds I like the rivalry and want to play them. with forest I’d love nothing better than the club ceasing to exist , because their fans deserve nothing better . Don’t care for ever playing them just wish them a great deal of failure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2023 17:45:11 GMT 1
Thought the taking off the shirt thing was that some overseas audiences find it offensive, i.e Middle East and China? Nope, just commercial. Shirt sponsors want their logo visible when players do that running towards the camera thing, which is what gets shown on TV and printed in newspapers. Take their shirt off, you can't see the sponsor. Cynical? Aye Bit ridiculous? Aye Football authorities' responsibility? Not really But that's why the rule's there, I believe - can't go upsetting the most important people in football - the ones with the money! |
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Post by rphyorks on Apr 19, 2023 19:37:39 GMT 1
Thought the taking off the shirt thing was that some overseas audiences find it offensive, i.e Middle East and China? I can't work out how football managed for over a hundred years without someone taking their shirt off to celebrate a goal 🤨🙄 maybe they were wanting to set a precedent, for when women's Football came along. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Apr 19, 2023 19:47:58 GMT 1
Did she get booked? I can't remember
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 19, 2023 19:52:23 GMT 1
Did she get booked? I can't remember Is there a booking line ? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 19, 2023 19:56:51 GMT 1
Those of a certain age will recall the Not the Nine O’ Clock news sketch I imagine…
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Post by terrierZed on Apr 20, 2023 8:48:58 GMT 1
'...the replays were inconclusive...' on the Toffolo one? No. No they were not:It was a CLEAR pen and an obvious error for VAR to overturn, the above leaves absolutely no doubt whatsoever.Jack Clarke was interviewed on television afterwards saying that the moments taken for the VAR review were the longest in his life because he admitted that there had been contact and was worried that they would give it. It was accidental (he said) but there definitely was contact. Those saying ‘Toffolo dived’ need to realise he lands on the ball with his FACE, which simply doesn’t happen if you throw yourself to the floor yourself as you’re in control of your own fall and cushion the landing with your arms. I’d actually put this to bed, but Forest’s incessant moaning about marginal VAR decisions going against them screams hypocrisy, they’ve had all the luck in the world, what more do they want?? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 20, 2023 9:29:41 GMT 1
Anyone who’s played football and has their balance taken from them when running at pace will understand what happened with the first penalty shout.
I’ve seen a kid break his leg when playing at junior level from a bad tackle at pace.
I’m obviously not suggesting it was a leg breaker, note that you can literally do nothing other than what your momentum and your body wants to do. Every foul in the same circumstances will have that theatrical element to it, it’s unavoidable.
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