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Post by ldotm on Mar 18, 2024 17:18:55 GMT 1
As a qualified lawyer with expertise in this domain, and from a completely neutral, unbiased point of view may I add.. the lawful punishment for their actions should be liquidation.
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 18, 2024 17:19:56 GMT 1
Four points is nothing as they may well be able to negotiate it down to two. As the final decision will be taken after the season ends then it will leave a precarious position for clubs at the bottom. Even the corrupt Premier League would not send say Luton down after giving Forest some points back. What would be the point of having rules if that happens? Mind you what was the point of VAR in the play off final if it was going to be ignored? I know the league rules say the final decision has to be before 5 days after the season ends, so in theory potentially after the last game, but Im pretty sure for this case they set a date in April where it had to be finally resolved. Theyre bound to appeal as there is no jeopardy for Forest in appealing. What they should say is any frivolous appeal ( ie theyre not offering up any extra evidence ) will incur a further 2 points They won't be appealing in time because the fat greek won't be out of his armchair in time to reach the court before the 24th May |
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Post by markthehorn on Mar 18, 2024 17:30:38 GMT 1
Is it because they admitted their guilt? Any appeal would be heard after the season has finished apparently. Why would they appeal if they’ve admitted their guilt? Like Everton did probably feel it’s too harsh . BBC say any appeal will be rushed through potentially. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/685948658 April (approximate) - 'Directions hearing' to set a date for an appeal hearing, which will last between one and three days and conclude no later than 24 May. It is likely to be much earlier in Forest's case. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Mar 18, 2024 17:37:07 GMT 1
Why would they appeal if they’ve admitted their guilt? Like Everton did probably feel it’s too harsh . BBC say any appeal will be rushed through potentially. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/685948658 April (approximate) - 'Directions hearing' to set a date for an appeal hearing, which will last between one and three days and conclude no later than 24 May. It is likely to be much earlier in Forest's case. Too harsh? They’ve spaffed a quarter of billion on shite? At least four times they’re allowed to lose. If they appeal it’s like Shipman appealing to the medical board. |
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Post by detox on Mar 18, 2024 18:10:11 GMT 1
Like Everton did probably feel it’s too harsh . BBC say any appeal will be rushed through potentially. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/685948658 April (approximate) - 'Directions hearing' to set a date for an appeal hearing, which will last between one and three days and conclude no later than 24 May. It is likely to be much earlier in Forest's case. Too harsh? They’ve spaffed a quarter of billion on shite? At least four times they’re allowed to lose. If they appeal it’s like Shipman appealing to the medical board. Their mitigation is that they only went over the limit because the deadline meant they could not maximise the sale price for that twot that went to Spurs...so they delayed and got £45m...if that was the case, then it wasn't an accident or an oversight, it was deliberate breaking of the rules...I'd be fining them £45m as well... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 18, 2024 18:17:57 GMT 1
Too harsh? They’ve spaffed a quarter of billion on shite? At least four times they’re allowed to lose. If they appeal it’s like Shipman appealing to the medical board. Their mitigation is that they only went over the limit because the deadline meant they could not maximise the sale price for that twot that went to Spurs...so they delayed and got £45m...if that was the case, then it wasn't an accident or an oversight, it was deliberate breaking of the rules...I'd be fining them £45m as well... Yeah, Im not sure 'We knowingly broke the rules because we could make ourselves some more money if we broke them' is much of an excuse. |
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Post by ilsonterrier on Mar 18, 2024 18:30:52 GMT 1
Too harsh? They’ve spaffed a quarter of billion on shite? At least four times they’re allowed to lose. If they appeal it’s like Shipman appealing to the medical board. Their mitigation is that they only went over the limit because the deadline meant they could not maximise the sale price for that twot that went to Spurs...so they delayed and got £45m...if that was the case, then it wasn't an accident or an oversight, it was deliberate breaking of the rules...I'd be fining them £45m as well... But they've already had it reduced by 2 points for mitigation. Surely they can't appeal on those grounds again? |
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Post by tonytiler on Mar 18, 2024 21:08:47 GMT 1
I hope to god they drop like a ton of concrete,i used to think Leeds were my most hated club in footie but these fuckers deserve everything that's coming.
So the big fat Greek shithouse can get his tail between his legs and suck it all in.
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Post by blanquiazules on Mar 18, 2024 21:20:42 GMT 1
I see Forest are quoted as saying the outcome "raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs"
Weren't they one of the 10 PL clubs who voted against providing a fair share of TV money to aspirant clubs in the Football League just last week?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 18, 2024 21:26:53 GMT 1
Just checked the fixture list.
Not good. Luton’s next game is away at Spurs.
Nevertheless I’ll be hoping for an away win.
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Post by softboy on Mar 18, 2024 21:50:23 GMT 1
Have I missed something here. Their financial year is 30/6 and FFP is based on accounts submitted to Companies House as of that date. So surely their appeal is based on CH agreeing to a player sale in September being agreed by CH and backdated to previous financial year?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 18, 2024 22:06:25 GMT 1
If they were 10th in the league now, they would have jumped at 4 points deduction
It makes financial fuckwittery worthwhile???
Give it 2 or 3 seasons and the top divisions will be sorted out by a committee some time after the season finishes. 🤪
They will have to present the trophy to lads on the fucking beach and tell others preparing for Europe or the premier league the bad news.
Maybe you will be able to negotiate a deduction before the season starts to cover for your financial tomfoolery??
Or purchase points at the end🤔
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Post by alfredsterrier on Mar 19, 2024 0:30:25 GMT 1
Seems to me that the clubs knowingly break the rules and then when charged admit it and submit their evidence.
They then argue that because they admitted it they shouldn’t be punished.
So it’s ok to cheat and break the rules as long as you admit it when caught.
What’s the point in investigating and charging them🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Complete farce.
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Post by Galpharmer on Mar 19, 2024 10:08:00 GMT 1
Wolves have sold a lot of players to make sure they are within the limits. If it’s only four points they might as well have kept the lot of them.
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Post by araucaria on Mar 19, 2024 10:58:50 GMT 1
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Post by ram on Mar 19, 2024 11:21:28 GMT 1
Forest will be OK based on the Wembley result. The FA will instruct all referees to give them penalties in every game they are losing.
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Post by detox on Mar 19, 2024 11:46:19 GMT 1
Wolves have sold a lot of players to make sure they are within the limits. If it’s only four points they might as well have kept the lot of them. Especially considering the higher up the league you finish the more SKY money you get..approx £2.2m per place... |
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Post by markthehorn on Mar 19, 2024 14:40:12 GMT 1
Brentford, Brighton etc have shown you can stay up in the first season without having to go overboard with the spending.
But maybe that time has past now and teams do need to spend big,
Forest's main problem when they first came up was they had a lot of loan players that needed replacing.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Mar 19, 2024 15:12:07 GMT 1
Spot on article, thanks for sharing it. I no longer read the Guardian regularly. |
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 19, 2024 16:02:45 GMT 1
This is why it is so important that we stay up so we can play the Scabs next season, Cant stand them, never have done and never will horrible club with arrogant fans.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 19, 2024 18:05:30 GMT 1
This is why it is so important that we stay up so we can play the Scabs next season, Cant stand them, never have done and never will horrible club with arrogant fans. Agree. That will be the No 1 fixture I look for next season. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 19, 2024 18:50:19 GMT 1
Forest look to have a better run in than Luton unfortunately.
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Post by isitjustme on Mar 19, 2024 18:57:58 GMT 1
Forest look to have a better run in than Luton unfortunately. Think Luton will fall away now. Needed a 10 point deduction for the twiggs I think..... |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 19, 2024 19:06:47 GMT 1
Has anyone mentioned that ex-Forest star Brennan Johnson’s father David used to also play for them?
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Post by conman on Mar 19, 2024 19:39:01 GMT 1
Has anyone mentioned that ex-Forest star Brennan Johnson’s father David used to also play for them? Not this week I don't think 🤔 |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 19, 2024 20:03:41 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 20:33:23 GMT 1
Forest look to have a better run in than Luton unfortunately. Think Luton will fall away now. Needed a 10 point deduction for the twiggs I think..... Don’t underestimate Luton. They have real resilience and could surprise us. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Mar 19, 2024 20:37:37 GMT 1
This is why it is so important that we stay up so we can play the Scabs next season, Cant stand them, never have done and never will horrible club with arrogant fans. Agree. That will be the No 1 fixture I look for next season. I'm getting more worried by the day that the nightmare scenario of Forest staying up and Town going down may happen. It really doesn't bear thinking about. I'm scared I wouldn't leave the house for a few months and if I did that I'd end up in Armley. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Mar 20, 2024 12:43:15 GMT 1
Have they had a full apology from the FA yet and the points put back on UTH a bonus gift of six extra points as a way of compensation for even thinking the mighty Forrest should be questioned let alone penalised
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 20, 2024 13:03:42 GMT 1
Has anyone mentioned that ex-Forest star Brennan Johnson’s father David used to also play for them? Not this week I don't think 🤔 They stopped 'looking for him in the crowd' given he will be watching a game a 100 miles away most weeks🙄 |
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