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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Mar 20, 2024 13:17:53 GMT 1
Shit like this is exactly why I (and I'm sure many others) have completely fallen out of love with football in general. The beautiful game it may be, but as a sporting institution, it is brazenly corrupt, and broken beyond repair, and we are the fools for propping it up.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Mar 21, 2024 16:43:49 GMT 1
Have I missed something here. Their financial year is 30/6 and FFP is based on accounts submitted to Companies House as of that date. So surely their appeal is based on CH agreeing to a player sale in September being agreed by CH and backdated to previous financial year? It all suggests that they want to effectively include the Johnson transfer fee in 2022/23 figures, even though the year end was 30th June and he wasn't sold until the beginning of September. I presume they'll also want to include it in the 3 year period 2023-26. So that means, they'll be allowing for that transfer fee in 4 separate 3 year rolling periods. It's fine looking back now and saying they got £x for Johnson by delaying the sale but what if he'd broken his leg. He'd have been worth nothing then. They took a risk. Financially it paid off, but it meant they broke the rules so they should be punished properly for that - and a 4 point deduction is hardly a proper punishment. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 21, 2024 19:28:53 GMT 1
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Post by markthehorn on Mar 21, 2024 19:36:23 GMT 1
Must be too late to impact on this season and it's a Premier league thing relating to last season Face a points deduction if they go up? |
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Post by Dan on Mar 21, 2024 19:43:25 GMT 1
Must be too late to impact on this season and it's a Premier league thing relating to last season Face a points deduction if they go up?Good news for Ipswich and Southampton then |
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Post by Galpharmer on Mar 25, 2024 19:37:39 GMT 1
Appealed. Hope they get a further reduction for being twats.
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Post by detox on Mar 25, 2024 19:56:31 GMT 1
Appealed. Hope they get a further reduction for being twats. Be hilarious if they lost,got deducted 2 more points and they were relegated by one point. Bring it on.. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 25, 2024 20:22:08 GMT 1
They need to pull their finger out and get this wrapped up before 24th May or it’ll be a circus.
Sunday 19th May at 6pm please. Just as they leave Burnley celebrating staying up by a point, hit them with the 2 point deduction that was initially given back.
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Post by mosher on Mar 26, 2024 9:52:46 GMT 1
So they get a punishment reduction for admitting the crime, now they're appealing?
Yup, rescind the reduction please.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 26, 2024 11:34:47 GMT 1
So they get a punishment reduction for admitting the crime, now they're appealing? Yup, rescind the reduction please. So they should, its clearly unfair on them that they could not stick to the rules because other clubs made their own financial decisions which left them having to break the rules??? Its the modern defence of 'Its someone else's fault'. If that fails they will return with the defence of 'big boys came and made us do it'.?? The final defence is 'a bloke in the pub said it was totally legal and the Football League can fuck off'..🙄 |
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Post by Dan on Mar 26, 2024 12:27:44 GMT 1
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 26, 2024 12:43:36 GMT 1
So they get a punishment reduction for admitting the crime, now they're appealing? Yup, rescind the reduction please. Absolutely. The reduction for co-operation is clearly no longer valid as they're no longer co-operating. If you co-operate with the police then plead not guilty you get the full wallop of sentence when you are found guilty. Same principle applies. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Mar 26, 2024 13:46:59 GMT 1
So they get a punishment reduction for admitting the crime, now they're appealing? Yup, rescind the reduction please. So they should, its clearly unfair on them that they could not stick to the rules because other clubs made their own financial decisions which left them having to break the rules??? Its the modern defence of 'Its someone else's fault'. If that fails they will return with the defence of 'big boys came and made us do it'.?? The final defence is 'a bloke in the pub said it was totally legal and the Football League can fuck off'..🙄 That’s not a modern defence. Liverpool have been using it for years. |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 26, 2024 13:53:51 GMT 1
Would absolutely love it if they got their points back and still went down....
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 27, 2024 18:04:46 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 28, 2024 0:51:53 GMT 1
Let’s hope Tierney isn’t 4th official for one of our games. At £5k per fan per having a pop at him, they’ll reap around £100m… |
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Post by uptownfunk on Mar 28, 2024 10:19:20 GMT 1
If anyone watches kids football these days they’ll see the dreadful impact that Prem teams and players has on them. Teams like Forest are a disgrace. The sanctions are way too lenient. The club is so corrupt the best thing all round would be if they were wound up. Notts county can represent the scabs.
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Post by softboy on Mar 28, 2024 19:38:07 GMT 1
Just a thought. Players have relegation contracts these days so if a club are relegated they can reduce their salary. I assume if a team get relegated due to a points deduction,no fault of the player, their wage will be reduced, yet a player whose team stays up due to someone else’s points deduction doesn’t. Bring on the lawyers!
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Post by utttrooper on Mar 29, 2024 1:13:14 GMT 1
Just a thought. Players have relegation contracts these days so if a club are relegated they can reduce their salary. I assume if a team get relegated due to a points deduction,no fault of the player, their wage will be reduced, yet a player whose team stays up due to someone else’s points deduction doesn’t. Bring on the lawyers! Well apparently Forest were fucking stupid enough not to implement any such clause in their players' contracts and are totally screwed if they come down. Bring on facing them next season I say. |
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Post by aksaiblue on Mar 29, 2024 2:06:13 GMT 1
If anyone watches kids football these days they’ll see the dreadful impact that Prem teams and players has on them. Teams like Forest are a disgrace. The sanctions are way too lenient. The club is so corrupt the best thing all round would be if they were wound up. Notts county can represent the scabs. Rather harsh on Notts County - they detest Forest too |
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Post by markthehorn on Apr 3, 2024 15:18:48 GMT 1
Wasn’t him but apparently the ref was great last night in their game . “Best for a while” “How it should be reffed” No coincidence Forest won ? |
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Post by ldr on Apr 3, 2024 16:04:11 GMT 1
Wasn’t him but apparently the ref was great last night in their game . “Best for a while” “How it should be reffed” No coincidence Forest won ? They are weapons of the highest order. |
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Post by softboy on Apr 3, 2024 20:15:17 GMT 1
Sign players you cannot afford and break the rules. If those players earn the club more than 4 points (as seems likely) then money well spent and vindicated. Most clubs will now be thinking if we break the rules can the players bought earn us more points than we loose.
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Post by stable on Apr 3, 2024 21:07:51 GMT 1
Just a thought. Players have relegation contracts these days so if a club are relegated they can reduce their salary. I assume if a team get relegated due to a points deduction,no fault of the player, their wage will be reduced, yet a player whose team stays up due to someone else’s points deduction doesn’t. Bring on the lawyers! Well apparently Forest were fucking stupid enough not to implement any such clause in their players' contracts and are totally screwed if they come down. Bring on facing them next season I say. This is apparently true, many of their largest earners have no relegation clauses. |
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Post by isitjustme on Apr 3, 2024 22:36:19 GMT 1
Well apparently Forest were fucking stupid enough not to implement any such clause in their players' contracts and are totally screwed if they come down. Bring on facing them next season I say. This is apparently true, many of their largest earners have no relegation clauses. Unfortunately, can't see them being relegated this season. Just enough poorer teams...!!! |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 8, 2024 14:14:52 GMT 1
Everton now docked 2 more points.
I wonder if these twats will see their measly deduction increased?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 8, 2024 18:00:42 GMT 1
I hope Everton go down now.
It’s about time these chickens came home to roost.
Let’s get this sorted good and proper. Clubs breaking FFP rules need sorting once and for all. Send a message.
Man City next. Then Forest.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 8, 2024 18:13:55 GMT 1
I hope Everton go down now. It’s about time these chickens came home to roost. Let’s get this sorted good and proper. Clubs breaking FFP rules need sorting once and for all. Send a message. Man City next. Then Forest. Agree but im not sure the premeir league will have the bottle to punish Mancheater city, they're allegedly touting an idea of big fines but it remains to be seen where that goes. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 8, 2024 18:52:12 GMT 1
I hope Everton go down now. It’s about time these chickens came home to roost. Let’s get this sorted good and proper. Clubs breaking FFP rules need sorting once and for all. Send a message. Man City next. Then Forest. Agree but im not sure the premeir league will have the bottle to punish Mancheater city, they're allegedly touting an idea of big fines but it remains to be seen where that goes. It’s all guesswork but I do think City will be punished. But the punishment won’t fit the crime. They will get something ridiculous like a 40 point deduction but 38 points given back because they say sorry. |
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Post by markthehorn on Apr 8, 2024 19:51:31 GMT 1
Agree but im not sure the premeir league will have the bottle to punish Mancheater city, they're allegedly touting an idea of big fines but it remains to be seen where that goes. It’s all guesswork but I do think City will be punished. But the punishment won’t fit the crime. They will get something ridiculous like a 40 point deduction but 38 points given back because they say sorry. Probably got the best lawyers defending themselves as well like when UEFAt tried to ban City from Europe . |
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