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Post by benhomly on Sept 14, 2022 9:37:55 GMT 1
Amazed how many of you are surprised we’re struggling I said throughout last season if we didn’t go up we’d struggle given league would be much stronger, we’d likely lose O’Brien & Colwill and our post season rest / pre season training affected 4 weeks vs others by play offs & early season start - last season was an open goal of a weak league, a great squad with number of players at the peak they’d reach with us before moving on - which is why messing up the play off final (& officials) mattered so much I always thought this would be a hard mid to lower half season Add Carlos screwing us over 3 weeks before the season rather than after the play off final, losing Toffolo too & not replacing him, the recruitment team seemingly picking players out of a hat rather than where we needed them panicking at the end and throwing Schofield under the bus in at the deep end We don’t have a squad to play 4 at the back or enough of a balance in midfield to do that, but don’t have wing backs to play 3 at the back (hoping Kesler-Hayden can grow into that role) - if we play a centre half / left back at left wing back and the definition of old school defender at right wing back we are never going to be a cohesive attacking unit - neither are going to get forward like Toffolo did. Recruitment a lot to answer here - squad unbalanced and appears no cohesive plan - Rudoni looks a great signing but we’re having to play him out of position given inadequacies elsewhere That all points to worse than mid to lower half But despite all that clearly 1 win in 8 isn’t enough - if they are going to make a change they need to do it quickly From what we've seen so far the league is far from much stronger this season. Our last 2 home defeats have been against very poor sides and a relegated Norwich who usually tear us apart at their place only narrowly beat us. If we act quickly we've got a decent enough squad to take us to mid table mediocrity. Something we never seem to get at Town. |
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Post by Orinoco on Sept 14, 2022 9:41:00 GMT 1
Amazed how many of you are surprised we’re struggling I said throughout last season if we didn’t go up we’d struggle given league would be much stronger, we’d likely lose O’Brien & Colwill and our post season rest / pre season training affected 4 weeks vs others by play offs & early season start - last season was an open goal of a weak league, a great squad with number of players at the peak they’d reach with us before moving on - which is why messing up the play off final (& officials) mattered so much I always thought this would be a hard mid to lower half season Add Carlos screwing us over 3 weeks before the season rather than after the play off final, losing Toffolo too & not replacing him, the recruitment team seemingly picking players out of a hat rather than where we needed them panicking at the end and throwing Schofield under the bus in at the deep end We don’t have a squad to play 4 at the back or enough of a balance in midfield to do that, but don’t have wing backs to play 3 at the back (hoping Kesler-Hayden can grow into that role) - if we play a centre half / left back at left wing back and the definition of old school defender at right wing back we are never going to be a cohesive attacking unit - neither are going to get forward like Toffolo did. Recruitment a lot to answer here - squad unbalanced and appears no cohesive plan - Rudoni looks a great signing but we’re having to play him out of position given inadequacies elsewhere That all points to worse than mid to lower half But despite all that clearly 1 win in 8 isn’t enough - if they are going to make a change they need to do it quickly From what we've seen so far the league is far from much stronger this season. Our last 2 home defeats have been against very poor sides and a relegated Norwich who usually tear us apart at their place only narrowly beat us. If we act quickly we've got a decent enough squad to take us to mid table mediocrity. Something we never seem to get at Town. Thats it with town, its either top or bottom, mid table doesnt exist!! |
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Post by mrg on Sept 14, 2022 9:42:14 GMT 1
I can't believe he's still in charge. I sense we're waiting for that one win to come about (which it will) and just assuming that all is fixed. Madness. I can. No leadership at the club. Say what you want about Big Phil but he'd have bombed him out a few games ago. Phil, despite the fact he didn't come up with the 2nd £2m, it might have been better for DH and PH to actually try and get on and fix it for the sake of the club and then the club wouldn't be in this pickle in the 1st place. Which is leadership/yes. |
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 14, 2022 9:45:58 GMT 1
I can't believe he's still in charge. I sense we're waiting for that one win to come about (which it will) and just assuming that all is fixed. Madness. I can. No leadership at the club. Say what you want about Big Phil but he'd have bombed him out a few games ago. If Phil was still here so would Carlos. And IF Carlos wasn’t, no way would Phil have employed DS. |
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Post by aideybabes on Sept 14, 2022 9:47:24 GMT 1
I can't believe he's still in charge. I sense we're waiting for that one win to come about (which it will) and just assuming that all is fixed. Madness. When that win does come we’ll be cut off from the 4th from bottom club so pointless to wait. He has to go today. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Sept 14, 2022 9:51:43 GMT 1
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Post by dbterrier32 on Sept 14, 2022 9:52:58 GMT 1
I've not seen the previous posts, so I dont know if it has been discussed. But lets say we sack Schofield today. Who do you realistically expect us to get to replace him?
I keep seeing people suggesting Wagner to come back. I'm a bit skeptical about this. He worked miracles for us last time BUT it was a squad and philosophy he built. He has struggled after Town with squads he inherits. How would he fair with this squad and in this day and age where the style is quite common now. Also, if he does come back, it will cost a lot of money for a squad re build. This would go against everything Dean has said in relation to us having to balance the books etc. Plus, i dont want him to come back and tarnish his legacy here.
In the early days, people were saying get rid of Schofield and get Sean Dyche. Whilst this would be awful (football wise), even if we were going down that route, there is absolutely no way we could afford him. Wasn't he on around £100K a week at Burnley?
So the options would be to try get an unproven manager from abroad or here, but isn't that just repeating the Schofield appointment. Or should we try pay compo for an assistant manager at a prem club who wants to go on their own?
In fact forget the above, lets just get Thomas Tuchel
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Post by Uddersfield on Sept 14, 2022 9:56:03 GMT 1
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Post by townarentbest on Sept 14, 2022 9:57:03 GMT 1
I'd just add that for all that my post seems harsh on Mbete, the position he's been put in is harsh. We are piss weak on the LHS of defence and our season relies on both Nakayama adapting to an unfamiliar role in an unfamiliar league AND an 18 year old showing exceptional ability AND maturity. We've pinned our hopes on some players in key positions coming good unusually quickly. Agree, and I don't really get why we're over-complicating things with Nakayama, diluting what he can potentially bring and removing some defensive rigidity. I wasn't there last night and its not always easy to get the strategic view on TV, but it seems like when we're out of position, he plays as an extra defender, but when in forward moving positions, he has some kind "inwards J" (my label) role where instead of providing the width, the tactic he's been made to do pretty much solely involves going in-field into a defensive midfield role, into space theoretically left behind Rudoni pushing forwards (pretty ineffectually at the moment) so we're not left with just Kasumu alone when the attacks break down. Problem is it just results in Mbete being over-exposed to any moderate paced break. I don't really understand it, Turton seems to play a much more easily understood role on the other side of the pitch - and we end up making Thomas even less-effective as he has a greater responsibility to drop back into the wide defensive space that you'd maybe expect Nakayama to be in. Don't we just need Turton to tuck in more narrow compressing the space alongside Kasumu if we're advancing up our left, so Nakayama doesn't end up having to run away from being involved? It just seems bizarre, we take a player out of the attacking mix, whilst also delaying his involvement in being a defender when things turn round. If we were playing Hogg and Kasumu, with Rudoni replacing Holmes and ideally Jones replacing Thomas, would we simply rely on Hogg to look after most of the defensive width if Kasumu pushed on, and allow Nakayama to go forward more supportive of Jones? I think we probably would (although likely Kasumu would continue to play where he plays, and Hogg would be ready to drop deeper to support laterally, covering for an advanced Nakayama (or Turton)). |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 14, 2022 9:58:01 GMT 1
Think we all know what that means... Who is lined up haha?? |
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Post by Kenny irons on Sept 14, 2022 9:58:31 GMT 1
He's gone
Rightly so
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 14, 2022 9:59:32 GMT 1
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 14, 2022 10:00:58 GMT 1
yep he's gone
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 10:01:14 GMT 1
Yesss finally
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Post by rockwall on Sept 14, 2022 10:01:18 GMT 1
Wouldn't fancy Dwight for the role |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 14, 2022 10:02:22 GMT 1
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Post by durhamterrier on Sept 14, 2022 10:04:08 GMT 1
Gutted for Schofield . Been stitched up and paid the price . He’ll go onto bigger and better things in the long term
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Post by rockwall on Sept 14, 2022 10:04:44 GMT 1
So after this sacking it would probably have been better financially to have given CC what he wanted?
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Post by dugnet on Sept 14, 2022 10:04:55 GMT 1
How to make yourself look foolish/lacking in football judgement. How much will it now cost to pay off DS and pay a new coach? Want to tell me again we couldn't have kept CC? Utter nonsense. From a human point of view I feel for DS. From a footballing point of view, no other choice. |
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Post by rockwall on Sept 14, 2022 10:05:32 GMT 1
Gutted for Schofield . Been stitched up and paid the price . He’ll go onto bigger and better things in the long term Stitched up? He picks the formation. He picks the team. He runs the training sessions which evidently don't work. He knew what he was signing up for. |
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Post by ritchie on Sept 14, 2022 10:05:37 GMT 1
Teflon Pèlach
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Post by dugnet on Sept 14, 2022 10:06:00 GMT 1
Gutted for Schofield . Been stitched up and paid the price . He’ll go onto bigger and better things in the long term He's a coach, not a head coach - big difference. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 14, 2022 10:06:40 GMT 1
Gutted for Schofield . Been stitched up and paid the price . He’ll go onto bigger and better things in the long term Stitched up? He picks the formation. He picks the team. He runs the training sessions which evidently don't work. He knew what he was signing up for. Totally agree People bang on about him getting a raw deal but he showed no charisma or inspiration in his interviews or his demeanour. |
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Post by tyketaffy on Sept 14, 2022 10:06:53 GMT 1
Its sad really because he's been a loyal servant of the club and seems a genuine nice guy but hes simply not up to the job. I think even if he had been in charge directly after the play off loss he would have done no better.
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 14, 2022 10:07:14 GMT 1
Do we think it will be Dave? No way we pay compo for a manager in a job already
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Post by Uddersfield on Sept 14, 2022 10:08:31 GMT 1
Do we think it will be Dave? No way we pay compo for a manager in a job already Dave or Big Dunc I reckon. |
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Post by ben1987 on Sept 14, 2022 10:08:46 GMT 1
What an appalling statement. I absolutely hope that DS has a great career coaching, I wish no ill to the man at all. He deserved so much better and his time I hope will come. Hoyle sent him to the slaughter. I hope it hasn’t killed DS’ career. Good luck Danny. |
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 14, 2022 10:11:13 GMT 1
If dean wants to appease fans, surely has to be dave
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 10:11:32 GMT 1
What an appalling statement. I absolutely hope that DS has a great career coaching, I wish no ill to the man at all. He deserved so much better and his time I hope will come. Hoyle sent him to the slaughter. I hope it hasn’t killed DS’ career. Good luck Danny. Completely agree. Always the foot soldiers who catch it, the buggers who made the mess still sit there. Good luck Danny you deserved better than this. |
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Post by mrg on Sept 14, 2022 10:12:27 GMT 1
So after this sacking it would probably have been better financially to have given CC what he wanted? Possibly, but having been offered a flat in Athens overlooking the sea, im thinking he went with that. DH big mistake but thats gone now. What we need is sone fucking organisation and to get some testosterone blowing through this team, which has leaked out sideways due to piss poor management from DH and LB in the summer. |
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