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Post by Drew Peacock on Oct 5, 2022 19:46:59 GMT 1
Looks like a very special talent. Hopefully MF has learned his lesson from dropping him because he should be the first name on the team sheet. Think it's more likely that because we had two games in four days so he was never going to play in both of them. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Oct 9, 2022 17:16:37 GMT 1
Had a poor first half today but.....
Three starts, two wins, one draw.
Make it happen Town.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 9, 2022 18:52:47 GMT 1
Got caught on the ball a few times but that’s because he was turning and looking forward. Would much rather that than constantly passing it back to the defence first time without looking.
Looking forward to seeing the lad develop as he looks the business.
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 9, 2022 18:56:10 GMT 1
Got caught on the ball a few times but that’s because he was turning and looking forward. Would much rather that than constantly passing it back to the defence first time without looking. Looking forward to seeing the lad develop as he looks the business. He was sold a couple of terrible passes amongst those times. Rhodes one was ridiculous Terrific performance yet again from the kid |
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 9, 2022 18:59:18 GMT 1
Love his attitude, tenacious and not afraid to get stuck in. Should only gonna get stronger as well. Get him tied down to a longer deal Town.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 9, 2022 19:37:38 GMT 1
Thought he look out of sorts first half but he was excellent in the second. Top player.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 10, 2022 6:49:12 GMT 1
First half he seemed to take an extra touch which he hadn't done in the first few games, 2nd half he stopped doing that and was magnificent.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 10, 2022 8:39:35 GMT 1
First half like Malvin Camara.
Second half absolute baller!
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 10, 2022 9:44:56 GMT 1
Although I think this season will be bitty & a bit toshy at times, I hope we’ve enough to get us out of trouble.
One thing that’s nice to see on here though, is a few threads starting about our different signings and developing players.
As we have to think that Hogg and a couple of others will start on the tail end of their careers, I think we’re not in bad shape with some of the younger players.
Maybe not this season, but I think our prospects for having a decent couple of seasons are looking promising.
Here’s hoping. 🤞
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Oct 10, 2022 10:40:22 GMT 1
Great prospect! Lots of talent and energy, but what I really like is the fact we see him talking and also wanting the ball off the defenders - that kind of leadership and confidence for a central midfielder is key. That, combined with the talent - this lad has a bright future
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 10, 2022 10:53:30 GMT 1
We really need to tie him down to a long contract and be getting on with it as soon as possible.
He could walk away at the end of this season for nowt!
I think he's probably ahead of where Billing and Lewis O'Brien were at the same age. Different player to both of these but he has adapted well to the 'mens game'.
I can see him being worth £5-6 million in another couple of years.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 10, 2022 11:57:40 GMT 1
We really need to tie him down to a long contract and be getting on with it as soon as possible. He could walk away at the end of this season for nowt! I think he's probably ahead of where Billing and Lewis O'Brien were at the same age. Different player to both of these but he has adapted well to the 'mens game'. I can see him being worth £5-6 million in another couple of years. Agree we need to tie him down to a new deal but he won't walk for free at the end of the season regardless, the club will just trigger the option for another year. |
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Post by midge on Oct 10, 2022 12:26:43 GMT 1
We really need to tie him down to a long contract and be getting on with it as soon as possible. He could walk away at the end of this season for nowt! I think he's probably ahead of where Billing and Lewis O'Brien were at the same age. Different player to both of these but he has adapted well to the 'mens game'. I can see him being worth £5-6 million in another couple of years. Agree we need to tie him down to a new deal but he won't walk for free at the end of the season regardless, the club will just trigger the option for another year. Agreed. The club almost always have a year option on the end of a contract and there may also be compo due anyway given his age (although he has only been here 2/3 years?) Nontheless the club do need to work on extending as I’m sure they are! |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 10, 2022 13:03:39 GMT 1
We really need to tie him down to a long contract and be getting on with it as soon as possible. He could walk away at the end of this season for nowt! I think he's probably ahead of where Billing and Lewis O'Brien were at the same age. Different player to both of these but he has adapted well to the 'mens game'. I can see him being worth £5-6 million in another couple of years. Agree we need to tie him down to a new deal but he won't walk for free at the end of the season regardless, the club will just trigger the option for another year. We did that with Toff and the same issue arises, just 12 months later. Would not give him it yet though, let him keep working for it. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 30, 2022 17:50:47 GMT 1
Another really good game yesterday. Has taken to the Championship like a duck to water.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 30, 2022 18:07:31 GMT 1
The midfield performance with Camara & Kasumu yesterday was like the performance we saw when we beat Cardiff under Narcis. They were dominant in both games. Both young lads who are striking up a good partnership & will only get better.
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Post by leroy212 on Oct 30, 2022 18:30:02 GMT 1
The midfield performance with Camara & Kasumu yesterday was like the performance we saw when we beat Cardiff under Narcis. They were dominant in both games. Both young lads who are striking up a good partnership & will only get better. Is Hogg going to get back in when he's fit |
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 30, 2022 18:34:11 GMT 1
The midfield performance with Camara & Kasumu yesterday was like the performance we saw when we beat Cardiff under Narcis. They were dominant in both games. Both young lads who are striking up a good partnership & will only get better. Thought they both had good games as did rudoni. Problem is they are all kids playing in the championship. They’ll have off games. The stick they’ve been given is just wrong. It’s the clubs fault they are all having to play so many games. But they all look like they have big futures. But I thought that about Russell and he’s disappeared as quickly as he arrived |
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Post by leroy212 on Oct 30, 2022 18:38:03 GMT 1
Camara have rudoni have both shown flashes out skill that makes you think they have a big future, then they will both do something stupid. Only way they will improve more is proper game time
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 30, 2022 18:57:05 GMT 1
The midfield performance with Camara & Kasumu yesterday was like the performance we saw when we beat Cardiff under Narcis. They were dominant in both games. Both young lads who are striking up a good partnership & will only get better. Thought they both had good games as did rudoni. Problem is they are all kids playing in the championship. They’ll have off games. The stick they’ve been given is just wrong. It’s the clubs fault they are all having to play so many games. But they all look like they have big futures. But I thought that about Russell and he’s disappeared as quickly as he arrived I suspect these three won't have as erratic times as Russell, who has some really strong points (composure and awareness), but has a major weakness in his game (athleticism) that means he's only effective when played in certain systems, with certain players. |
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Post by wildhogg on Oct 30, 2022 19:18:26 GMT 1
Rudoni was really good yesterday, looked a much better player in his best position (shock horror). Camara's one of those midfielders who always seems to have time.on the ball. A sensible passer and it's great that his first instinct is to look forward.
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 31, 2022 9:53:37 GMT 1
The midfield performance with Camara & Kasumu yesterday was like the performance we saw when we beat Cardiff under Narcis. They were dominant in both games. Both young lads who are striking up a good partnership & will only get better. Is Hogg going to get back in when he's fit Yes. We have a very young, inexperienced midfield without him and they will need an older head at times. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 31, 2022 10:07:12 GMT 1
That first touch before his shot after the corner (2:55) was sublime.
Shame it wasn't a yard further from the keeper as that would have been a stunning goal.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 10:26:31 GMT 1
Yeah he didnt half catch that. Shame it was straight at the keeper, which with the time he had, it shouldnt have been really..
I think he's struggled a bit recently, but Saturday he was back to his best. Its what you expect with young kids.. a lack of consistency.
Maybe not this season, but next season its quite exciting to see these youngsters really come of age like Camara, Jackson, Rudoni, Diarra ( who some who watch the B team rate higher than camera) and Jones , if he can stay fit.
Could well be others to add to that by then too.
Some will have 30 or 40 games at this level by then which will make a big difference.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 2, 2023 10:42:07 GMT 1
Seen rumours that he’s being sold and then loaned back to us, anyone know if this is true? Can’t see why he’s been peripheral recently unless we don’t want him injured before he gets sold.
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 2, 2023 11:10:34 GMT 1
Seen rumours that he’s being sold and then loaned back to us, anyone know if this is true? Can’t see why he’s been peripheral recently unless we don’t want him injured before he gets sold. I think he'll turn in to one of the best players we've "produced", but he's only young and think hes had a niggle / illness leading up to Christmas. A decent fee and loan back maybe just what we need to refresh the squad and get us out of trouble. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 2, 2023 11:25:14 GMT 1
I'd be fuming at a sale and loan back arrangement in January. What's the point in even taking an interest in our youth teams if we're selling them within a couple of months of them being good enough? Not just Camara but Jackson too.
If you're gonna make such a huge compromise on squad strength by replacing senior players with youth players, you can't then just sell the better youth players at the first opportunity. If we hang onto Camara as long as we did O'Brien we'll get 5x as much money for him, and will be a better team for it. Ridiculous short termism that'll cause more knock on problems in the coming years
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Post by yoy on Jan 2, 2023 11:44:25 GMT 1
I'd be fuming at a sale and loan back arrangement in January. What's the point in even taking an interest in our youth teams if we're selling them within a couple of months of them being good enough? Not just Camara but Jackson too. If you're gonna make such a huge compromise on squad strength by replacing senior players with youth players, you can't then just sell the better youth players at the first opportunity. If we hang onto Camara as long as we did O'Brien we'll get 5x as much money for him, and will be a better team for it. Ridiculous short termism that'll cause more knock on problems in the coming years I agree with this. Ultimately, the point is what happens with the first team. Selling so early means that they’ve only really touched the first team during the inevitable hit and miss phase that you get with younger players. You need to get a couple of strong seasons out of them to have any chance of building a team. The good news is that it is all speculation right now. Famous last words but I just can’t see it happening. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jan 2, 2023 11:59:25 GMT 1
The midfield performance with Camara & Kasumu yesterday was like the performance we saw when we beat Cardiff under Narcis. They were dominant in both games. Both young lads who are striking up a good partnership & will only get better. Is Hogg going to get back in when he's fit I remember thinking at the time that you could be right. How wrong we were! Camara and Kasumu have time on their side though, so watch this space... At some time we will have to accept that Hoggy isn't our best option....BUT IT AIN'T YET!! |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 2, 2023 12:05:07 GMT 1
I'd be fuming at a sale and loan back arrangement in January. What's the point in even taking an interest in our youth teams if we're selling them within a couple of months of them being good enough? Not just Camara but Jackson too. If you're gonna make such a huge compromise on squad strength by replacing senior players with youth players, you can't then just sell the better youth players at the first opportunity. If we hang onto Camara as long as we did O'Brien we'll get 5x as much money for him, and will be a better team for it. Ridiculous short termism that'll cause more knock on problems in the coming years We’re rumoured to be getting £10m for him - you think we’ll get £50m for him if we keep him a bit longer? I completely agree that we should be keeping him longer and it’s really annoying - we want to see the strongest possible team but look at the situation of the club - we need to sell players for big money to sustain the club, which is losing what, £6 million a year? Hopefully the new owners are going to strengthen and want to get us to to the prem again. Hoyle is clearly going to try and get as much money back as possible. Also I’d imagine that if he gets £10m for Camara it won’t knock £10m off the value of the club, and it might actually strengthen Hoyle’s hand in negotiating as it will help a case for showing the value of the young players. I’d suggest that the investment in youth is not just Camara or Diarra but also the other players like High, Jones etc that will fill spaces on the bench, squad, and be reliable enough when playing games. Consider what we’re probably paying Mahoney versus what we’d be paying a youth player for the same contribution this season - probably 5x more of a wage on Mahoney. |
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