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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2022 14:18:13 GMT 1
Looks like a manager who doesn't take any shit. Can't wait for his first interview. Just like Stan? |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 26, 2022 14:18:27 GMT 1
I actually like the sound of this guy. Succeeded in a relegation battle. Worked under top coaches. 24-hour dedication to job like Carlos. German style pressing football. Tough taskmaster. Young and keen to impress. And a venture into the unknown! If appointed, I think he’ll do well. He also failed in a relegation battle as assistant A certain German manager has had 2 teams relegated out of his last 3, difference being he didn't see out the season at either. |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 26, 2022 14:18:39 GMT 1
Rob Edwards available… pick up the phone Bromby if DW is a no go I expect Slaven Bilic will be available by the middle of next month. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 26, 2022 14:19:19 GMT 1
Maybe he isn’t a bad option and people could give it a chance? We gave Siewert a chance, won 1 game in 19. We gave Schofield a chance, won 1 game in 9. We were left in the relegation zone on both occasions after Hoyles previous two appointments. How long should the fans give this guy? More than some on here have given him so far, maybe? Remember none of us had heard of Wagner until we appointed him. The same goes for Corberan. The last few managers we appointed that had any sort of reputation in the game prior to joining us (Cowleys, Powell, Robins, Grayson) were a mixed bag too. |
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Post by bradley1985 on Sept 26, 2022 14:23:09 GMT 1
We gave Siewert a chance, won 1 game in 19. We gave Schofield a chance, won 1 game in 9. We were left in the relegation zone on both occasions after Hoyles previous two appointments. How long should the fans give this guy? More than some on here have given him so far, maybe? Remember none of us had heard of Wagner until we appointed him. The same goes for Corberan. The last few managers we appointed that had any sort of reputation in the game prior to joining us (Cowleys, Powell, Robins, Grayson) were a mixed bag too. oddly a lot of us are aware of fotheringham in the 30-45 age group, as he was a useful signing in football manager |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 26, 2022 14:24:18 GMT 1
“Tactics don’t interest me - that’s just how it is. I’m not concentrating on tactics - I don’t care about that. And what you say in the dressing room stays in the dressing room.” By the sounds of it, not a very modern manager at all…. Tactics are overrated, especially when it involves pissing about with it at the back and 25 passes to reach the halfway line. We have to give this chap a chance. A couple of wins from the off and we'll be wondering what all the fuss was about. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 26, 2022 14:25:08 GMT 1
This is the only reason I'd heard of him. Soccer AM used to show it all the time, from Celtics youth team
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 26, 2022 14:28:46 GMT 1
I notice Watford's manager has been sacked. Would he do? It wouldn't be a normal season if Watford didn't sack at least one manager. It'll be interesting to see if Bilic lasts the season. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 26, 2022 14:35:55 GMT 1
“Tactics don’t interest me - that’s just how it is. I’m not concentrating on tactics - I don’t care about that. And what you say in the dressing room stays in the dressing room.” By the sounds of it, not a very modern manager at all…. Alarm bell number 1. |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 26, 2022 14:42:15 GMT 1
Think that quote is slightly out of context, think he was standing in for the manager for one game while he had Covid or something. So for that week only, tactics were none of his business is how i interpreted it.
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Post by sonny on Sept 26, 2022 14:43:11 GMT 1
Shame the great Alan Latchley's no longer available. Would surely have impressed Bromby at interview.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 26, 2022 14:43:49 GMT 1
It would be a joke of an appointment
We need an instant impact not a rookie that needs time to settle in to the job
Lose the next 3 or 4 and it's league one next season and we will be after yet another manager by Xmas
This could be the end for Dean if they go down this road!!
Experience needed in our predicament not another bleeding rookie
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Sept 26, 2022 14:50:19 GMT 1
Think that quote is slightly out of context, think he was standing in for the manager for one game while he had Covid or something. So for that week only, tactics were none of his business is how i interpreted it. It's 100% taken out of context, you are right. |
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Post by midge on Sept 26, 2022 14:56:03 GMT 1
It would be a joke of an appointment We need an instant impact not a rookie that needs time to settle in to the job Lose the next 3 or 4 and it's league one next season and we will be after yet another manager by Xmas This could be the end for Dean if they go down this road!! Experience needed in our predicament not another bleeding rookie Spoke to my Sheffield Wednesday supporting business partner about this clammer for ‘experience’. His reaction was that Garry Monk is available😬 |
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Post by King Neil on Sept 26, 2022 15:00:40 GMT 1
It would be a joke of an appointment We need an instant impact not a rookie that needs time to settle in to the job Lose the next 3 or 4 and it's league one next season and we will be after yet another manager by Xmas This could be the end for Dean if they go down this road!! Experience needed in our predicament not another bleeding rookie Spoke to my Sheffield Wednesday supporting business partner about this clammer for ‘experience’. His reaction was that Gary Monk is available😬 He would probably do a better job than this fella!! Whoever it is needs instant results or it's a long slow death for them I would prefer narci,s to be caretaker until the season ends if we are not going for experience |
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 26, 2022 15:07:24 GMT 1
I notice Watford's manager has been sacked. Would he do? It wouldn't be a normal season if Watford didn't sack at least one manager. It'll be interesting to see if Bilic lasts the season. Dou you mean the football season, or Autumn? |
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Post by Macduff on Sept 26, 2022 15:10:53 GMT 1
Still not seen or heard anything from a reputable source saying that it is or isn't happening. Just 2 or 3 people on here saying it's a done deal and every man and his dog taking it as gospel. I'm taking it as gospel, but my spaniel is holding out for DW. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Sept 26, 2022 15:14:24 GMT 1
What formation was played at Hertha and Ingolstadt when he was there?
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2022 15:17:18 GMT 1
It would be a joke of an appointment
We need an instant impact not a rookie that needs time to settle in to the jobLose the next 3 or 4 and it's league one next season and we will be after yet another manager by Xmas This could be the end for Dean if they go down this road!! Experience needed in our predicament not another bleeding rookie Its all most as if David Wagner never happened! He was a total unknown from German football and had an instant impact on a side very low in confidence. Why are people so sure this guy wont have an immediate positive impact simply because they've never heard of him? |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 26, 2022 15:19:22 GMT 1
What formation was played at Hertha and Ingolstadt when he was there? Just had a quick look back to Hertha and I think it was 4-2-3-1 |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2022 15:20:08 GMT 1
It would be a joke of an appointment We need an instant impact not a rookie that needs time to settle in to the job Lose the next 3 or 4 and it's league one next season and we will be after yet another manager by Xmas This could be the end for Dean if they go down this road!! Experience needed in our predicament not another bleeding rookie Spoke to my Sheffield Wednesday supporting business partner about this clammer for ‘experience’. His reaction was that Garry Monk is available😬 We could get Chris Hughton just in case forest fans arent taking the piss out of us enough already. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 26, 2022 15:20:50 GMT 1
What formation was played at Hertha and Ingolstadt when he was there? According to ever reliable transfermarket website magath played 4-2-3-1 whereas it’s states fotheringham likes 4-1-4-1 not sure how’s they no since he’s never been a head coach. |
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Post by H7 on Sept 26, 2022 15:21:28 GMT 1
It would be a joke of an appointment
We need an instant impact not a rookie that needs time to settle in to the jobLose the next 3 or 4 and it's league one next season and we will be after yet another manager by Xmas This could be the end for Dean if they go down this road!! Experience needed in our predicament not another bleeding rookie Its all most as if David Wagner never happened! He was a total unknown from German football and had an instant impact on a side very low in confidence. Why are people so sure this guy wont have an immediate positive impact simply because they've never heard of him? All we have to go off is his CV and when you compare that to 2015 David Wagner who had played at the highest domestic level for a sustained period of time, capped internationally, won the UEFA cup, been a HEAD coach at an elite European club for 5 years (albeit the B side) but working under Klopp, MF's doesn't look too impressive in comparison. We have to get behind him and I wish him every success. |
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Post by mosher on Sept 26, 2022 15:24:01 GMT 1
To say I'm underwhelmed (if this is happening) is an understatement. But I'm more than willing to give the guy a chance. As Slapps said, I'd never heard of Herr Wagner before his appointment. I'd only heard of Carlos because my dad and sis are L***s fans. I'd heard of Mick Wadsworth, Malcolm Macdonald, Stan Ternent, Chris Powell and Mark Robins though. Maybe we should give one of them a chance! Edit: I'd heard of Mark Robins so much I included him twice  |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2022 15:24:19 GMT 1
Good luck to him indeed, and welcome to HTAFC. I’ve no doubt there’ll be a rallying call to the fans to back him, I’m more interested in whether Hoyle & Bromby are going to back him, unlike Siewart & Schofield. We’re once again at ground zero of a 3/5 year plan. If the board are on board and show some ambition, the fans will follow. If they think they can carry on as they have since summer and somehow excite and unite the fan base they are in for a shock. They also need to realise that banging on about 2015, when we’ve had 5 men in the dugout since, isn’t as encouraging as they think. In a way they've just backed him with a centre back for over a million and a loan centre back from City who's been a regular on the bench of arguably the best club side in the world. The last manager never really got the chance to use that backing, but the next will. |
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 26, 2022 15:25:24 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2022 15:28:51 GMT 1
To say I'm underwhelmed (if this is happening) is an understatement. But I'm more than willing to give the guy a chance. As Slapps said, I'd never heard of Herr Wagner before his appointment. I'd only heard of Carlos because my dad and sis are L***s fans. I'd heard of Mick Wadsworth, Malcolm Macdonald, Mark Robins, Stan Ternent, Chris Powell and Mark Robins though. Maybe we should give one of them a chance! Sounds like a Guards Officer??? Capt Mark Mckay Fotheringham ..esq.. Got to give him a go if he does get the gig. We can play, we have seen it, just not for long enough in games, they get that bit sorted and who knows?? UTT... |
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Sept 26, 2022 15:30:26 GMT 1
I don't know if this guy is the right option, but here is a bit of info for those who are interested..
Season 2018/19, on the 2nd April 2019 he linked up with Tomas Oral to take over Ingolstadt in the German 2nd tier, they sat bottom of the table. Ingolstadt won 5 from their 7 remaining games, topping the form table in that time. Having lost the relegation play-off on away goals, they leave the club.
Season 2019/20, after their replacement was sacked, the club turned back to Tomas Oral on 11th March, Fotheringham again a part of his team. Despite finishing in the play-offs they lost on away goals in the last minute to miss out on promotion, instead remaining in the 3rd division.
Season 2020/21, they again finished in the play-off spot but this time won promotion to the 2nd division. Their contracts however were not renewed.
Season 2021/22, on the 13th March Fotheringham joins Felix Magath at Hertha Berlin in the Bundesliga. Magath tested positive for covid and missed what would be his first game, so Fotheringham sits in the interview and takes the reigns. They beat Hoffenheim 3-0 at home, their first win in 3 months. Hertha's defence improved but they still finished in the relegation play-off and although they lost 1-0 to Hamburg at home, they went up north and won 2-0, meaning they avoided relegation. They left at the end of the season.
By no means am I saying the guy will come in and be a fantastic manager for us, or head coach rather. It's just easy to throw relegation at his name but ignore other aspects, hence this post.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 26, 2022 15:34:51 GMT 1
Good luck to him indeed, and welcome to HTAFC. I’ve no doubt there’ll be a rallying call to the fans to back him, I’m more interested in whether Hoyle & Bromby are going to back him, unlike Siewart & Schofield. We’re once again at ground zero of a 3/5 year plan. If the board are on board and show some ambition, the fans will follow. If they think they can carry on as they have since summer and somehow excite and unite the fan base they are in for a shock. They also need to realise that banging on about 2015, when we’ve had 5 men in the dugout since, isn’t as encouraging as they think. In a way they've just backed him with a centre back for over a million and a loan centre back from City who's been a regular on the bench of arguably the best club side in the world. The last manager never really got the chance to use that backing, but the next will. You’re right. However, Wagner was allowed (with Webber) to completely change the egos of the club. Hence, the ‘Wagner Revolution’ slogan we used for months. We let him take the whole club by the scruff of the neck and invigorate it entirely. MF is being brought in to a rigid system with a very defined remit. It’s almost impossible for him to have the same impact as DW. His role is far more transitory than Wagner’s. It is far easier to replace him so there is not the same require the to back him. This is why the ‘continuity model’ appeals so much. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 26, 2022 15:37:07 GMT 1
Its all most as if David Wagner never happened! He was a total unknown from German football and had an instant impact on a side very low in confidence. Why are people so sure this guy wont have an immediate positive impact simply because they've never heard of him? All we have to go off is his CV and when you compare that to 2015 David Wagner who had played at the highest domestic level for a sustained period of time, capped internationally, won the UEFA cup, been a HEAD coach at an elite European club for 5 years (albeit the B side) but working under Klopp, MF's doesn't look too impressive in comparison. We have to get behind him and I wish him every success. I love an inflated CV. Head coach at an elite European club.. Dortmund reserves. capped internationally....8 caps for USA Won the UEFA cup,,,, was an unused sub in the 2nd leg of the final. Played at the highest domestic level for a sustained period... 30 appearances in the German top flight in his entire career. |
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