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Post by H7 on Sept 26, 2022 13:20:20 GMT 1
Expect official announcement very soon most likely tomorrow. The club see him as a similar mould to Wagner when he was appointed in 2015. MF is very confident in his ability as a coach & man managing this group. He's certainly no shrinking violet & won't mince his words. He's a very hands on coach who is completely focussed on what happens on the training pitch & will not impose on the transfer dealings conducted by those above (suits Bromby perfectly) The Wagner deal was explored for a while but as everyone knows too many barriers for it to happen. Chicho & Harsley will be staying expect him to bring one possibly 2 Germans on his coaching team. For what it's worth I think he will keep us up but I think most on the shortlist would have anyway. I am assuming the similarities we see are approach, personality & style based as I see very few similarities when comparing David Wagner's 2015 CV with MF. Wagner had played at the highest level for a consistent period of time, played for his country and won the UEFA cup. He then had 4-5 years coaching experience at one of elite European clubs working under Klopp so they are miles apart on that front. |
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Post by Macduff on Sept 26, 2022 13:25:27 GMT 1
It must be my age, but every time I see his name I just think of Fotherington-Thomas who was "wet" and "skipped like a girlie" from the "Down With Skool" books, as narrated by Molesworth.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 26, 2022 13:28:08 GMT 1
MMF's B&W army is it then? ;-)
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 26, 2022 13:28:31 GMT 1
cut adrift in the relegation zone. I'm not entirely optimistic myself but 3 points off safety in September I wouldn't exactly call 'cut adrift'  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 13:32:01 GMT 1
Did we give Wagner a chance? Did we give Carlos a chance? Be balanced we take gambles as a club as we aren’t a big fish some will work some won’t, it comes with the territory at this level for us. The best thing you can do is at least try to get right behind it as it gives it more chance of success We saw an instant change in playing style under Wagner, he was engaging & charismatic so he wasn't difficult to get behind. Carlos wasn't appointed by Hoyle & ultimately didn't show him the ambition to keep him at the club which leaves us with the shit show circus we're currently witnessing. 4 months ago we finished 3rd & got to the playoff final, we're now cut adrift in the relegation zone. I don't know how much patience Hoyle thinks the fans have? Forherigham hasn’t been given a game to show his playing style, ha hasn’t even been announced yet |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 26, 2022 13:32:58 GMT 1
If it is MF then all I can say is welcome to HTAFC. As supporters, we have to get behind him. I hope to see the first signs of at least a style of play, something of a plan, on Saturday at Reading.
DH and LB will surely totally understand that accountability for this choice (assuming it is happening) will be entirely on them and there’ll be no sympathy for either of them if it doesn’t work out.
Good luck MF, hope we come to love you like we loved DW.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Sept 26, 2022 13:37:12 GMT 1
cut adrift in the relegation zone. I'm not entirely optimistic myself but 3 points off safety in September I wouldn't exactly call 'cut adrift' With a game in hand |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 26, 2022 13:38:54 GMT 1
Very, very interested to see how this is dressed up after the 'we're under no illusions how crucial this decision is' line from Bromby to then go and hire another total unknown with zero head coach experience. It's not inspiring or exciting and it could go either way but we must get behind him. Will say got great references from coaches in Germany that he’s highly rated and turned down the Bochum job it’ll be alone them lines Yes Bobby Robson endorsed Wadsworth too. |
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Post by morrisraspass on Sept 26, 2022 13:42:54 GMT 1
My hot take on this, if it's true, is that we're looking at Siewert MK2 (or MK3, if you count the Schofield disaster along those lines). Sounds like another lazy appointment. That's a pretty tepid take to be honest |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 26, 2022 13:43:30 GMT 1
Good luck to him indeed, and welcome to HTAFC.
I’ve no doubt there’ll be a rallying call to the fans to back him, I’m more interested in whether Hoyle & Bromby are going to back him, unlike Siewart & Schofield.
We’re once again at ground zero of a 3/5 year plan. If the board are on board and show some ambition, the fans will follow. If they think they can carry on as they have since summer and somehow excite and unite the fan base they are in for a shock.
They also need to realise that banging on about 2015, when we’ve had 5 men in the dugout since, isn’t as encouraging as they think.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 26, 2022 13:44:34 GMT 1
Looking solely at CVs, this chap's doesn't on the face of it look as impressive as some others. BUT it does look good enough to potentially warrant an interview and it's entirely possible that he has wowed Bromby, Hoyle and/or the players at interview.
Some of those with stronger (on the face of it) CVs may not have had the same qualities, or not to that extent.
Wagner may be difficult to extricate from his Swiss contract AND it may be difficult to get his family to move back here.
Barry stands to lose the chance to coach at a World Cup if he moves here. Prisong him away from a job at Chelsea may he a challenge in itself.
Maybe Carrick and Ferguson don't seem a good fit for the club. Who knows? Certainly, there are some managers/head coaches who are brilliant at one place and dreadful at the next. See Hughton at Forest, vs his time at Brum, Newcastle and Brighton. See Mick Buxton or Jacko here, vs their other manager jobs.
The right man might not be who we expect.
As for having never heard of him, I'd never heard of Carlos before he got here either. Or Wagner. I hadn't heard of Anthony Barry before Schofield got sacked either, but it seems he'd be a hell of a coup.
Regardless of who gets the gig, we do need to give them the backing. We're supporters, not customers. And if we're a bit shit in the new coach's first game, keep giving support from the stands in the 2nd, and 3rd....
They've got to get this right. That means leaving no stone unturned. Maybe this is the right stone, who knows?
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Post by space hardware on Sept 26, 2022 13:47:02 GMT 1
My hot take on this, if it's true, is that we're looking at Siewert MK2 (or MK3, if you count the Schofield disaster along those lines). Sounds like another lazy appointment. That's a pretty tepid take to be honest Sorry, I'll try harder next time 😁 |
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Post by Rambo on Sept 26, 2022 13:48:20 GMT 1
Has the announcement happened or is it imminent?
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Post by araucaria on Sept 26, 2022 13:48:46 GMT 1
A brief history of Town's Scottish managers:
David Steele - one season Division One 1946-47 - 20th
Andy Beattie - relegated twice from Division One, promoted in between.
Shankly - the only Scottish Town manager never associated with the word 'relegation'
Tom Johnston - nearly man, missed out on promotions in 1965-66 and 1975-76, but took over from Bobby Collins in relegation of 1974-75.
Bobby Collins - first managerial appointment, sacked before we were relegated (?)
Ian Ross - lost play-offs in 1992-93; rescued from relegation the season after by the return of Mick Buxton.
Lou Macari - last match relegation in 2000-01 after recovering from 8 points after 19 games. Lost play-offs in third tier the year after.
So our history suggests that it is unwise to appoint a Scotsman as manager, especially if he's starting in a relegation place, but maybe he'll be another Shankly.
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Post by specialun on Sept 26, 2022 13:52:13 GMT 1
Rob Edwards available… pick up the phone Bromby if DW is a no go
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2022 13:53:02 GMT 1
Some sites list him as 'Mark Fotheringham' others as 'Mark McKay Fotheringham'
Is it usually more standard for a double barrel surname to contain a hyphen so 'Mark McKay-Fotheringham'
These are currently the most important things I am thinking about
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Post by bobrobterrier on Sept 26, 2022 13:55:14 GMT 1
“Tactics don’t interest me - that’s just how it is. I’m not concentrating on tactics - I don’t care about that. And what you say in the dressing room stays in the dressing room.”
By the sounds of it, not a very modern manager at all….
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 26, 2022 13:55:18 GMT 1
Some sites list him as 'Mark Fotheringham' others as 'Mark McKay Fotheringham' Is it usually more standard for a double barrel surname to contain a hyphen so 'Mark McKay-Fotheringham' These are currently the most important things I am thinking about Town will probably try to save the 50p it costs for an extra letter printing on his training attire. MF it is. |
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Post by Lovechops on Sept 26, 2022 13:57:45 GMT 1
Lol town fans on Twitter and a few on here are hilarious, total meltdown that the club are poss not appointing DW who was an unknown assistant manager from Germany when we gave him a chance and instead poss going for an unknown assistant manager from Germany 🤔🤔🤔🤣😂🤣😂 Wagner worked under Klopp and had success with their B team. A B team that got better crowds than most championship clubs. A coach that Klopp would have taken to Liverpool. But still an unknown coach that we gave a chance to !!! |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 26, 2022 13:59:13 GMT 1
Some sites list him as 'Mark Fotheringham' others as 'Mark McKay Fotheringham' Is it usually more standard for a double barrel surname to contain a hyphen so 'Mark McKay-Fotheringham' These are currently the most important things I am thinking about I think McKay is just his middle name. Emile Smith Rowe always intrigued me as he’s never referred to as “Smith-Rowe” or just “Rowe”. Our daughter has a double-barrelled name from her marriage (maiden name-husband’s surname) as do the three grandchildren. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 26, 2022 14:01:40 GMT 1
is he a hard no-nonsense bassa in the dressing room? If he is he might be OK.
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Tomas Oral, head coach of German side Karlsruher SC, knew Fotheringham from his time as assistant to Felix Magath at Fulham. He convinced him to join him at Karlsruhe and after a few days as a guest he signed as assistant coach on 1 July 2016. Fotheringham was appointed player-assistant manager of Scottish League Two club Cowdenbeath in 2017. He left Cowdenbeath in 2019 and returned to Germany, again as assistant coach of Oral at German 2nd tier club FC Ingolstadt. Ingolstadt got relegated to 3rd division, Oral and Fotheringham left the club. The following March, Ingolstadt being outside of the promotion spots, they took over again. Ingolstadt managed promotion to the 2nd tier, Oral and Fotheringham left afterwards. In March 2022 he became Magath's assistant coach at Bundesliga club Hertha BSC.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 26, 2022 14:01:56 GMT 1
Some sites list him as 'Mark Fotheringham' others as 'Mark McKay Fotheringham' Is it usually more standard for a double barrel surname to contain a hyphen so 'Mark McKay-Fotheringham' These are currently the most important things I am thinking about Town will probably try to save the 50p it costs for an extra letter printing on his training attire. MF it is. In fairness, if it is MF, and it ultimately fails, they can still sell those monikered tops for full price in the shop, targeted at some DATM posters... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 26, 2022 14:03:01 GMT 1
is he a hard no-nonsense bassa in the dressing room? If he is he might be OK. Is this the start of the fish puns tangent? |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 26, 2022 14:05:21 GMT 1
I notice Watford's manager has been sacked. Would he do?
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Post by TTCMatt on Sept 26, 2022 14:06:31 GMT 1
I swear some of those Town fans are a phishing email away from losing their life savings...  Steven is a brilliant journo and an even better bloke. He doesn't deserve any of the absolute crap thrown his way by this really bizarre cult that has appeared. Even if most members of the cult are the same people with multiple accounts. Such weird behaviour, even for 18-21 year olds. Is he a mate of yours ? Chicken or Nose?  |
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Sept 26, 2022 14:08:01 GMT 1
Still not seen or heard anything from a reputable source saying that it is or isn't happening. Just 2 or 3 people on here saying it's a done deal and every man and his dog taking it as gospel.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2022 14:09:00 GMT 1
No Maynard, no fact. fact.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 26, 2022 14:16:03 GMT 1
Some sites list him as 'Mark Fotheringham' others as 'Mark McKay Fotheringham' Is it usually more standard for a double barrel surname to contain a hyphen so 'Mark McKay-Fotheringham' These are currently the most important things I am thinking about Town will probably try to save the 50p it costs for an extra letter printing on his training attire. MF it is. Isn't MMF just a category on Pornhub? |
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 26, 2022 14:16:34 GMT 1
Looks like a manager who doesn't take any shit. Can't wait for his first interview.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2022 14:17:40 GMT 1
I presume we're just waiting for them to dot the i's and cross the t's before it's confirmed. I have to question if anyone at the club is capable of doing that though?
Hope not.
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