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Post by ruggedivy on Sept 26, 2022 19:49:27 GMT 1
It's either ego or finance ruling this decision.I'm sure Fotheringham will be a cheap option. Once again, I'll state I'm far from Dean Hoyle's biggest fan. ...but why ego? TBF if it was his ego he was thinking about surely he'd have gone for a safer option? He's already getting absolute sh*8te for this. ....& surely Finance has to be a consideration in any decision doesn't it? Maybe just maybe, he's gone for the person who is available who he feels will do the best job. He's made some sh*8te decisions in the past but also some very good ones. Hope this is one of the latter. Ego because we think we can turn water into wine! There is a very good reason why most championship clubs go for a manger with experience! Why do we think differently we know differently? In 10+ years under Hoyle this strategy has worked once.. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 26, 2022 19:50:50 GMT 1
It does seem like a risky decision given our position. I really thought we were going to bring someone in to steady the ship until the end of the season Lets hope it works out Completely agree, it’s a huge gamble. We’ve just had a promising young coach with no managerial experience who knew everything about the squad and the club believed in fall flat on his face and yet we’re trying again with someone external. On top of that, his recent contacts are all in a country we can no longer recruit from post Brexit. Praying it turns out to be a stroke of genius rather than what it appears. Totally agree, wish him all the success in the world but very disappointed with the position the club is in and it seems a cheap option to take. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 19:51:23 GMT 1
I actually think this could be quite a shrewd appointment, the braveheart question from the German reporter shows he has fire if nothing else. I would expect his teams to work incredibly hard and show passion which if we’re honest is 80% of what we need in the Championship. I prefer it to a boring champ manager merry go round it’s different it might not work but he should be getting backed by all fans!
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Post by Maynardblue on Sept 26, 2022 19:53:12 GMT 1
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Post by ashfieldterrier on Sept 26, 2022 19:57:16 GMT 1
Wow! Risky one this, Dean and Bromby will be Fully Vilified if this doesn’t go well quickly. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Sept 26, 2022 19:57:30 GMT 1
What is it you need to know?? It's common knowledge now isn't it? Fotheringham briefed the players today (not in person) on training and schedules etc What's your feelings on it mate? Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. |
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Post by griffa on Sept 26, 2022 19:57:33 GMT 1
How long will he last at Town. If he's appointed Bromby will lose any credibility, he may still have! Is this a script written by the Midsummer Murders Team? Hertha Berlin's record this season, is as follows P7 W1 D3 L3, is that the record of a winner? - UTT. Hopefully Fotheringham's coaching skills are better than your research. He left Hertha in the summer. Let's hope so, he's obviously been in demand, or not, weird appointment! |
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Post by ashfieldterrier on Sept 26, 2022 19:58:20 GMT 1
When are we expecting an announcement mate? |
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 26, 2022 19:59:15 GMT 1
Nice one, leave Wagner to manage! |
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Post by willo on Sept 26, 2022 20:01:17 GMT 1
Be interesting to hear the rationale from the club about this appointment, it’s caught everybody out. 100% thought we needed someone with experience of the Championship to come in and steady things.
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Post by dezzly on Sept 26, 2022 20:02:12 GMT 1
Just not sure about this at all. Think we needed someone with decent experience at this level, in the short term at least, to get us out of the mess we’re in Are we in that much of a mess? Not a great start but win our game in hand and we are 5 points off the play offs. We have also won our last game. I don’t feel like we are in a mess.feels nothing like when the cowleys came in.first few were bad but whereas results haven’t performances have(very very slightly) improved game on game. If he can get them in some sort of structure and make us harder to beat initially(which reading where he’s been recently that was the focus) then we will already be much more competitive. The next five games all with the exception of Luton present a decent opportunity too. Reading are up there but they are far outperforming their stats in terms of their results(they did this last season early on also),hull signed ridiculous amounts of players and are on a slide having started ok,Rotherham have just lost Warne and the entire back room staff and Preston seem very very average. That said if some results don’t come from these games the screw will turn on him even more as the fixtures during November before the World Cup don’t look easy. We shall see but I’m not as panicked as the great majority seem.Not at this stage anyway. |
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Post by space hardware on Sept 26, 2022 20:03:16 GMT 1
What's your feelings on it mate? Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. Seem to remember Siewert rattling a few cages and alienating most of the squad. |
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Post by sykeylad on Sept 26, 2022 20:07:32 GMT 1
What's your feelings on it mate? Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. Does that leave room for Danny Schofield to remain as part of the coaching team, or has he now left the club? |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 26, 2022 20:07:50 GMT 1
Oh well good luck to him. Wish only the best for this club, feel extremely let down and disheartened with this recruitment but I will back him and hope for the best. My opinion of DH gets lower and lower.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 26, 2022 20:14:09 GMT 1
Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. Seem to remember Siewert rattling a few cages and alienating most of the squad. It all depends on the squad and the characters within it. A coach with an approach like that needs guys within the team to be getting others to buy in to it. He's got quite a few here who will do just that. Helik, Hogg, Nakayama, Lees, Pearson etc are all grafters. The majority of the squad in the Premier league were just taking their cash and taking the piss |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2022 20:16:28 GMT 1
The least inspiring appointment since Schofield who was the least inspiring appointment since Siewert. Hope this guy manages to win more than one game, unlike the other two.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 26, 2022 20:17:30 GMT 1
Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. Seem to remember Siewert rattling a few cages and alienating most of the squad. Exactly what i thought when i first heard his name. Every single player in our squad with have a better playing career than he did. He sounds like a right arse hole, not necessarily a bad thing for a manager but when you’re a 38 year old no one it worries me. |
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Post by Ross83 on Sept 26, 2022 20:18:23 GMT 1
Na I'm not having this, it's bollocks.
Just waiting for the halfway point in the PaddyPower sponsored interview when Wagner unzips his Fotheringham skin suit and reveals himself as the real head coach..
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Post by terrier10 on Sept 26, 2022 20:18:38 GMT 1
At least he should get the better of Schofield in at least getting a formal announcement…
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Post by runner76 on Sept 26, 2022 20:26:19 GMT 1
Na I'm not having this, it's bollocks. Just waiting for the halfway point in the PaddyPower sponsored interview when Wagner unzips his Fotheringham skin suit and reveals himself as the real head coach.. that would be truly amazing |
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 26, 2022 20:26:21 GMT 1
Provided he gets on alright with Chicho and Harsley, I'm happy he's not bringing loads of his own people in, considering how the players responded against Cardiff.
Another total unknown in terms of playing style, but I have a better gut feeling about him than I did about Schofield initially. He seems like he could be a leader, and seems a tough customer. As much as we can take the piss out of Fulham and the cheese incident, you must have something good about your character for Felix Magath to see you as a player and want you on his coaching team. We've not had a properly tough gaffer for a while, it would be interesting to see how different personalities in the squad would respond to it.
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Post by buckers on Sept 26, 2022 20:26:28 GMT 1
Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. Seem to remember Siewert rattling a few cages and alienating most of the squad. Was it 8 transfer requests in a week? Over to you mark. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 26, 2022 20:26:47 GMT 1
You have to wonder why it's taken two weeks to announce an out of work no mark coach?
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Post by TTCMatt on Sept 26, 2022 20:29:15 GMT 1
Come on Maynard. In the words of Delia 'where are you???' I know it's a risk for yourself but any cryptic message to either cause the meltdown or reassure? Whether it is a pic of you in a kilt or a ladenhoser. What is it you need to know?? It's common knowledge now isn't it? Fotheringham briefed the players today (not in person) on training and schedules etc and what about the lederhosen? |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2022 20:31:01 GMT 1
Not bringing his own team in shows that this was the cheap option.
The one thing I do actually like is that he seems more of a hard character which is probably what's needed at the moment.
The fact we have gone for someone like that which is the opposite to Schofield makes me think there is discontent behind the scenes.
I genuinely don't get Brombys interview last week though.
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Post by ashfieldterrier on Sept 26, 2022 20:31:41 GMT 1
You have to wonder why it's taken two weeks to announce an out of work no mark coach? I thought this earlier, it’s all very strange. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 26, 2022 20:32:37 GMT 1
Initially very disappointed But having sat on it a while I'm not as negative as I was - he will rattle cages and upset people no doubt. Whether that works I'm not so sure but it won't be boring. My biggest concern is that he doesn't appear to be bringing anyone with him - he'll work with what's hear - that's a recipe for failure in my eyes but we'll see. Seem to remember Siewert rattling a few cages and alienating most of the squad. At a time where a decent proportion of the squad were Premier League mercenaries who knew they'd be trying to leave in the summer. While the end result was terrible results and a shining example of bad management of people, the fuckers deserved it as they were totally gutless after christmas that season. I hope we haven't already got a similar number looking for a way out as it is. We also have a good core of lieutenants in the squad- Hogg, Nicholls, Ward, Pearson, Lees, even Holmes this season, who I imagine would all be on board and could help get the message across |
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Post by loumacari on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:22 GMT 1
Not bringing his own team in shows that this was the cheap option. The one thing I do actually like is that he seems more of a hard character which is probably what's needed at the moment. The fact we have gone for someone like that which is the opposite to Schofield makes me think there is discontent behind the scenes. I genuinely don't get Brombys interview last week though. Hard characters only work if they get the players onside quickly. A couple of bad results and all it will do is alienate them. It’s a huge risk. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:29 GMT 1
You have to wonder why it's taken two weeks to announce an out of work no mark coach? I thought he was a Mark? |
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Post by dezzly on Sept 26, 2022 20:34:39 GMT 1
Seem to remember Siewert rattling a few cages and alienating most of the squad. It all depends on the squad and the characters within it. A coach with an approach like that needs guys within the team to be getting others to buy in to it. He's got quite a few here who will do just that. Helik, Hogg, Nakayama, Lees, Pearson etc are all grafters. The majority of the squad in the Premier league were just taking their cash and taking the piss Agree with that,depends on how the bigger characters react.In fairness the players can’t complain in my eyes,their levels have dropped from last season and if they had pulled their finger out a touch more then maybe then they would probably still be working with someone less disciplined.That said schofield didn’t help with his tactics in general.The players can’t have it both ways though so need to get on with it.Also coming into a team in the bottom 3 it probably wouldn’t be wise to let them walk all over him too. If he’s bringing no one with him he may need to lean on someone currently already here,I seem to think we have someone in the building that will identify with the German background and way of doing things at least. |
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