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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 25, 2022 21:11:46 GMT 1
Felix Magath’s record in England:
Matches 20
Wins 4
Draws 4
Defeats 12
Relegations 1
He’s not the ‘top coach’ some are suggesting.
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Post by Tiro on Sept 25, 2022 21:12:07 GMT 1
Have you written off Fozzy? I stand by my statement that it is my opinion that another gamble on an unproven (at this level) appointment would be catastrophic given our current position. So you have written him off then. Just say yes. |
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Post by Tiro on Sept 25, 2022 21:13:33 GMT 1
If true this is tragic. Felix Magath is not a top class manager, the bloke is a complete fraud. Is this the same bloke that has won Bundesliga 1 three times with Wolfsburg and Bayern and finished second with Stuttgart and Schalke? What’s Bielsa done? He’s the biggest fraud of the lot. 2 Olympic medal. One Championship with Leeds. |
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Post by harris on Sept 25, 2022 21:13:39 GMT 1
Not seen anyone reliable say this is happening, the meltdown is premature surely
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Post by boooothy on Sept 25, 2022 21:14:11 GMT 1
Let’s hope you’re right. Dave Hockaday was more well known than this boy. Wagner was 1/10 on yesterday. Sorry but I think this guy talks shit. If I'm proven wrong fair enough but absolutely no way would the club take such a risk after what has happened this summer, how low down in the league we are and how apathetic the fans are right now. Would be commercial suicide. Exactly why i’d be against it. I’d have a slightly different view if it was the start of pre season. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 25, 2022 21:14:57 GMT 1
I stand by my statement that it is my opinion that another gamble on an unproven (at this level) appointment would be catastrophic given our current position. So you have written him off then. Just say yes. since he doesn't fit into the proven at this level catagory you could assume such. |
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Post by htfcterry on Sept 25, 2022 21:15:06 GMT 1
Seems strange to me. Bromby said the below:
“The process to appoint our next permanent Head Coach is already under way, and we are under no illusions as to how crucial a decision this will be – in no uncertain terms, we must get it right.“
It seems like it’s far too much of a risk for such a “crucial decision” and one he “must get right”.
How long does this inexperienced coach get before been chewed up and spat back out?
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 25, 2022 21:17:31 GMT 1
Got to back him and give him a chance. Ticks lots of boxes - worked in Germany with a set up that we want to replicate. - worked with top coaches in Germany, Felix Magath for one - speaks the language (well Scottish) - good articles on him and his character does seem what we need Also lots of concerns / risks - never managed before - not a big name to get in stand respect - another young good coach (isn’t that what we got rid of) - fans will not get behind him as much as say DW to start with. Felix Magath? Nicknamed Saddam by his own players Felix Magath? Maybe this Fotheringham will get Rolando Aarons to rub cheese on the sites of his many ailments and he'll finally come good |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 25, 2022 21:17:37 GMT 1
Have we written him off already then? I wrote Bromby off a long time ago. Well, can't say I'm enamoured, but if you're against it maybe it's not so bad. |
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Post by basil on Sept 25, 2022 21:17:46 GMT 1
Could work out, but that is Siewert, Schofield and now this guy as the last three managers under Hoyle. Punt after punt after punt, none of them had ever managed a first team before taking on a Championship club. Whereas DW and Carlos had been doing it for years. If DW is a non starter, who would you accept? |
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Sept 25, 2022 21:17:58 GMT 1
If this is the case I’m done. And by that I don’t mean I’ll never go or I’ll not pay attention but I’m done giving them my all. I’ll go to games when I can. At the minute I have to take days off work to watch us. I won’t be doing that any more.
I know it’s not confirmed yet but for the first time ever I will say I want Dean and Bromby out that door. Fast as can be.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 25, 2022 21:19:47 GMT 1
Seems strange to me. Bromby said the below: “The process to appoint our next permanent Head Coach is already under way, and we are under no illusions as to how crucial a decision this will be – in no uncertain terms, we must get it right.“ It seems like it’s far too much of a risk for such a “crucial decision” and one he “must get right”. How long does this inexperienced coach get before been chewed up and spat back out? But he did say someone who has seen different methods and could teach us something. The obvious comparison is that idiot Siewart but they might be thinking he’s more of a Carlos, having worked with a very good manager. |
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Sept 25, 2022 21:20:16 GMT 1
If true this is tragic. Felix Magath is not a top class manager, the bloke is a complete fraud. Is this the same bloke that has won Bundesliga 1 three times with Wolfsburg and Bayern and finished second with Stuttgart and Schalke? What’s Bielsa done? He’s the biggest fraud of the lot. 2 Olympic medal. One Championship with Leeds. Not sure winning the Bundesliga with Bayern is impressive. Wolfsburg, sure, but that was 13 years ago. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 25, 2022 21:21:25 GMT 1
Let’s hope you’re right. Dave Hockaday was more well known than this boy. . Sorry but I think this guy talks shit. If I'm proven wrong fair enough but absolutely no way would the club take such a risk after what has happened this summer, how low down in the league we are and how apathetic the fans are right now. Would be commercial suicide. That's only because a load of folk lumped their brass on him on the back of an Instagram post from Buhler's missus. I bet the chap who lumped £500 on it being Wagner is shitting himself just now. |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 25, 2022 21:21:57 GMT 1
I would add we don't necessarily need a good coach, Chico is already a good coach, we need a leader and personality to bring the team together.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2022 21:22:39 GMT 1
Not seen anyone reliable say this is happening, the meltdown is premature surely HTAFC35 has been on the button all summer with regards to transfers |
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Post by griffa on Sept 25, 2022 21:24:51 GMT 1
Would be a very scary appointment IMO! |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 25, 2022 21:25:11 GMT 1
Look on the bright side….. we can look forward to signings from the Blue Brazil.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 25, 2022 21:26:07 GMT 1
Wagner was 1/10 on yesterday. Sorry but I think this guy talks shit. If I'm proven wrong fair enough but absolutely no way would the club take such a risk after what has happened this summer, how low down in the league we are and how apathetic the fans are right now. Would be commercial suicide. That's only because a load of folk lumped their brass on him on the back of an Instagram post from Buhler's missus. I bet the chap who lumped £500 on it being Wagner is shitting himself just now. I feel like the exact same thing is happening here too. One guy with no track record of getting things right has everyone reaching for the bookies. No way have we just spent that long without a manager to appoint someone so underwhelming. If its not Wagner there are plenty of better options out there and the club would be daft to take such a risk. |
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Post by Tiro on Sept 25, 2022 21:26:49 GMT 1
Is this the same bloke that has won Bundesliga 1 three times with Wolfsburg and Bayern and finished second with Stuttgart and Schalke? What’s Bielsa done? He’s the biggest fraud of the lot. 2 Olympic medal. One Championship with Leeds. Not sure winning the Bundesliga with Bayern is impressive. Wolfsburg, sure, but that was 13 years ago. They don’t give the job to anyone. And the second place finish with Stuttgart was equally impressive. |
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Post by specialun on Sept 25, 2022 21:28:47 GMT 1
I can’t see this
Bromby spoke about a coach who had worked with a top coach - if this was 2011 Felix Magath would fall into that category.
But its 2022…in the last decade Magath had one terrible experience in England at Fulham (really bad), managed in China and short (successful) spell end last season back in Germany. I can’t see the relevance over a decade ago to today’s game… it’s a completely different game.
In 2011 Leigh Bromby was playing for Leeds. That’s how relevant it is
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Post by hoggy1975 on Sept 25, 2022 21:35:22 GMT 1
Think all those throwing big bets on the Wagner appointment based off a couple internet/twitter rumours from a couple lads from India will be feeling a little silly right now..
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Post by harris on Sept 25, 2022 21:37:12 GMT 1
Think all those throwing big bets on the Wagner appointment based off a couple internet/twitter rumours from a couple lads from India will be feeling a little silly right now.. Yep, and the exact same thing could be happening as we speak |
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 25, 2022 21:37:48 GMT 1
Magarth is not a top manager and never has been.
Another coach who has zero experience in management.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 25, 2022 21:37:59 GMT 1
I honestly think the real problem is Hoyle & Bromby thinking they’re cleverer than they are.
They think they can work ‘differently’ and substitute conventional club ownership/investment with ‘out of the box’ thinking.
It doesn’t work. Wagner was backed more than any other Town manager in our history. It wasn’t all man management, cleverness and charisma. When the backing went haywire we quickly became the 2nd worst team in PL history.
Doing things differently doesn’t always mean you are some kind of visionary. Most of the time, it means you’re arrogant, deluded or you completely misunderstand the basics of the business you are in.
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Post by basil on Sept 25, 2022 21:40:04 GMT 1
That's only because a load of folk lumped their brass on him on the back of an Instagram post from Buhler's missus. I bet the chap who lumped £500 on it being Wagner is shitting himself just now. I feel like the exact same thing is happening here too. One guy with no track record of getting things right has everyone reaching for the bookies. No way have we just spent that long without a manager to appoint someone so underwhelming. If its not Wagner there are plenty of better options out there and the club would be daft to take such a risk. Care to name one? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2022 21:41:12 GMT 1
I honestly think the real problem is Hoyle & Bromby thinking they’re cleverer than they are. They think they can work ‘differently’ and substitute conventional club ownership/investment with ‘out of the box’ thinking. It doesn’t work. Wagner was backed more than any other Town manager in our history. It wasn’t all man management, cleverness and charisma. When the backing went haywire we quickly became the 2nd worst team in PL history. Doing things differently doesn’t always mean you are some kind of visionary. Most of the time, it means you’re arrogant, deluded or you completely misunderstand the basics of the business you are in. I think a lot of people overlook this with Wagner. He had one of the best centre halves and definitely the best central midfielder the Championship has ever seen. There were plenty of decent players scattered around them. He did a great job but lets not pretend he would have taken the squad he found upon arrival to the Premier League |
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Post by mib150 on Sept 25, 2022 21:42:26 GMT 1
I feel like the exact same thing is happening here too. One guy with no track record of getting things right has everyone reaching for the bookies. No way have we just spent that long without a manager to appoint someone so underwhelming. If its not Wagner there are plenty of better options out there and the club would be daft to take such a risk. Care to name one? Brooky the kit man |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 25, 2022 21:43:41 GMT 1
I feel like the exact same thing is happening here too. One guy with no track record of getting things right has everyone reaching for the bookies. No way have we just spent that long without a manager to appoint someone so underwhelming. If its not Wagner there are plenty of better options out there and the club would be daft to take such a risk. Care to name one? Carrick, Ferguson, Hughton, Dyche and even Corberan. That enough for you? |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 25, 2022 21:45:05 GMT 1
I honestly think the real problem is Hoyle & Bromby thinking they’re cleverer than they are. They think they can work ‘differently’ and substitute conventional club ownership/investment with ‘out of the box’ thinking. It doesn’t work. Wagner was backed more than any other Town manager in our history. It wasn’t all man management, cleverness and charisma. When the backing went haywire we quickly became the 2nd worst team in PL history. Doing things differently doesn’t always mean you are some kind of visionary. Most of the time, it means you’re arrogant, deluded or you completely misunderstand the basics of the business you are in. There’s a reason everyone else do most things the same. |
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