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Post by deo1 on Oct 21, 2022 14:59:48 GMT 1
Listen to the state of this, 'we were really dangerous against Preston'. My god this is beyond embarrassing now. He’s been here 3 weeks and the performances have steadily got worse. He talks a very good game and oozes with confidence. I hope I’m wrong but he doesn’t fill me with confidence and I can’t see us improving on the pitch of what he’s saying is true and he thinks we played well against Preston and created chances 😂😂😂 |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Oct 21, 2022 15:01:46 GMT 1
I wouldn't count on it. These things are rarely without substance, especially with reputable posters backing up the claims. I'm not going to judge MF on his managerial abilities yet, but one thing for sure is that he certainly knows how to say the right things. Not sure he does tbh He says nothing... how could he motivate anyone with the way he speaks ?. He is so boring and he just repeats the same thing in every press conference. |
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Post by shawsie on Oct 21, 2022 15:04:49 GMT 1
Ive not been impressed at all thus far but some clearly just want to snipe imho.
If he said "lads we were utter shite tues and will get beat tmoro more than likely but we will improve" hed get it in the neck also.
Conversely if he said nowt hed be accused of being a coward and not standing up to questions.
The only thing that will dig him out of a hole is winning games. Up to him and the under performing players now.
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Post by dugnet on Oct 21, 2022 15:15:52 GMT 1
I find him a bit contradictory, I like his positivity but his manner is hard to take to. That said he doesn't need to inspire me.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 21, 2022 15:16:43 GMT 1
Listen to the state of this, 'we were really dangerous against Preston'. My god this is beyond embarrassing now. He’s been here 3 weeks and the performances have steadily got worse. He talks a very good game and oozes with confidence. I hope I’m wrong but he doesn’t fill me with confidence and I can’t see us improving on the pitch of what he’s saying is true and he thinks we played well against Preston and created chances 😂😂😂 We did, 2 poor headers. If you blinked during the match its not his fault😉 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 21, 2022 15:36:30 GMT 1
I listened to the point where he said we did a lot of good things against Preston, they struggled to deal with us & they created very little. I thought after nearly 30 years at our stadium I'd know where it is by now, but I must have been sat in the wrong stadium because that was definitely not the game I saw.
He also said Sorba had their LB on strings & we created a lot of good chances. Definitely not the game I was at 😳
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 21, 2022 15:40:38 GMT 1
Listened to the full 30 minutes. Still like the cut of his jib. Best of luck for tomorrow Mark. (I know that's like wishing myself good luck)  |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2022 15:43:52 GMT 1
I listened to the point where he said we did a lot of good things against Preston, they struggled to deal with us & they created very little. I thought after nearly 30 years at our stadium I'd know where it is by now, but I must have been sat in the wrong stadium because that was definitely not the game I saw. He also said Sorba had their LB on strings & we created a lot of good chances. Definitely not the game I was at 😳 Yeah not the game I was at either. I partly saw bits of that in the 1st half. Both Sorba and Jackson caused them some problems on both wings, but after half time there was nothing really. Just sorba lumping pretty aimless crosses into the box which they defended with a cigar on. I get that he, like every other manager, will try and be positive but you have to be realistic and honest to a point too. Anyone at the game knows his assessment of it in that interview is bollocks really. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2022 15:52:08 GMT 1
Why does it annoy you? Maybe he comes on here? He's only saying whats happened. We beat Hull ( Im not having this thing that everyone we beat is shit ) and on the back of Luton, which we would have won but for Mbetes amazing 1st half performance, the signs were positive and the mood on here was relatively optimistic. 2 games later the general feeling is most want him sacked. Captain Hull were dire and the worst team we’ve played all season (that takes some doing) and the Luton game we should’ve lost. We could have lost it in the end. But we had one player who managed to gift Luton 3 goals in the first half! If Mbete doesnt play, we'd have won that game pretty comfortably. And im not saying Hull were great or anything , but its too convenient to simply dismiss any success we have as being because the opposition were rubbish. Its taking this 'slag everything about our club off' mentality a bit too far IMO. Hull were poor because we didnt allow them to be anything else. Their gameplan didnt work and maybe because they lacked a manager they didnt have a plan B. |
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Post by hxterrierhx on Oct 21, 2022 15:54:38 GMT 1
Captain Hull were dire and the worst team we’ve played all season (that takes some doing) and the Luton game we should’ve lost. We could have lost it in the end. But we had one player who managed to gift Luton 3 goals in the first half! If Mbete doesnt play, we'd have won that game pretty comfortably. And im not saying Hull were great or anything , but its too convenient to simply dismiss any success we have as being because the opposition were rubbish. Its taking this 'slag everything about our club off' mentality a bit too far IMO. Hull were poor because we didnt allow them to be anything else. Their gameplan didnt work and maybe because they lacked a manager they didnt have a plan B. I would argue based on our last performance that we lack a manager that has a plan B. |
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Post by townrwe on Oct 21, 2022 16:08:18 GMT 1
He could end up a town legend or a town leg end...... If we were winning we would be lapping up his jib, but we are losing so he sounds like a fraud.
He is in charge tomorrow, seemed to knock any issue with hoggy on the head, so has my full support, but another abject display and ill be back on the other side of the fence, struggling to joing the leg and the end at the moment.
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 21, 2022 16:14:14 GMT 1
I hope we never see Boyle,Mbete and KKH in our team ever again. They are all so poor theyd struggle to get in a decent non-league side. I know he hasn't been great so far, but Mbete is rated highly by the best coach/manager in the world. KKH also highly rated. Maybe it is our coaches and manager that is the issue... Russell doesn't become a bad player overnight. KKH been injured with a toe injury, only returned to training today. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2022 16:21:11 GMT 1
Listen to the state of this, 'we were really dangerous against Preston'. My god this is beyond embarrassing now. He’s been here 3 weeks and the performances have steadily got worse. He talks a very good game and oozes with confidence. I hope I’m wrong but he doesn’t fill me with confidence and I can’t see us improving on the pitch of what he’s saying is true and he thinks we played well against Preston and created chances 😂😂😂 Fucking dangerous? We had the Ward chance, that was it! Get rid of this absolute blinkered moron. Dangerous for the fans watching it maybe. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2022 16:27:50 GMT 1
The 1st 2 mins. 1. Hogg only had 1 session with him. Injury or because of the scuffle? 2. KKH he 'thinks' stubbed his toe.... surely you should know this? 3. I forget about Tino. What the actual fuck?  |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Oct 21, 2022 16:31:29 GMT 1
He could end up a town legend or a town leg end...... If we were winning we would be lapping up his jib, but we are losing so he sounds like a fraud. He is in charge tomorrow, seemed to knock any issue with hoggy on the head, so has my full support, but another abject display and ill be back on the other side of the fence, struggling to joing the leg and the end at the moment. I think he is more a bellend. |
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Post by sheps on Oct 21, 2022 17:09:24 GMT 1
The 1st 2 mins. 1. Hogg only had 1 session with him. Injury or because of the scuffle? 2. KKH he 'thinks' stubbed his toe.... surely you should know this? 3. I forget about Tino. What the actual fuck? Exactly the same feelings here He just doesn’t sit right with me, after hearing him a couple of weeks ago I quite liked him, but he just seems so so old school, like a dinosaur of football and a bit of a bully boy Maybe I’m jaded coz I really thought we might get Wagner, or maybe I’m just disenchanted by the whole club, something just feels so wrong about it all |
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 21, 2022 17:23:13 GMT 1
Captain Hull were dire and the worst team we’ve played all season (that takes some doing) and the Luton game we should’ve lost. We could have lost it in the end. But we had one player who managed to gift Luton 3 goals in the first half! If Mbete doesnt play, we'd have won that game pretty comfortably. And im not saying Hull were great or anything , but its too convenient to simply dismiss any success we have as being because the opposition were rubbish. Its taking this 'slag everything about our club off' mentality a bit too far IMO. Hull were poor because we didnt allow them to be anything else. Their gameplan didnt work and maybe because they lacked a manager they didnt have a plan B. No doubt xG and stats aren't up your street but we had an xG of 1.46 to Lutons 2.82, and the pen is 0.77 of that. We had 3 shots in the entire game and scored from 2 of them. Luton had 17 shots, 10 on target, plus more possession. Even if you factor out Mbete's gifts they comfortably outplayed us and we got a lucky draw. How often will a side have 3 shots, score from two of them and benefit from an OG to score 3 times in a game. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 21, 2022 17:29:39 GMT 1
I listened to the point where he said we did a lot of good things against Preston, they struggled to deal with us & they created very little. I thought after nearly 30 years at our stadium I'd know where it is by now, but I must have been sat in the wrong stadium because that was definitely not the game I saw. He also said Sorba had their LB on strings & we created a lot of good chances. Definitely not the game I was at 😳 Hes right the last 3 games against Preston have produced an own goal and a free header at a corner. The few other chances 'created' were half chances at best and shitty ones at worst. The difference the other night, other than the goal, is we did not control the dullness, they did. They managed one goal in a 90 minutes of dullness but they ran the midfield, they controlled any break we had and fully controlled their own final third. Not sure what he saw, I watched them play their game, get a goal, then simply play it out to their tactics.? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2022 18:04:46 GMT 1
We could have lost it in the end. But we had one player who managed to gift Luton 3 goals in the first half! If Mbete doesnt play, we'd have won that game pretty comfortably. And im not saying Hull were great or anything , but its too convenient to simply dismiss any success we have as being because the opposition were rubbish. Its taking this 'slag everything about our club off' mentality a bit too far IMO. Hull were poor because we didnt allow them to be anything else. Their gameplan didnt work and maybe because they lacked a manager they didnt have a plan B. but we had an xG of 1.46 to Lutons 2.82, and the pen is 0.77 of that. We had 3 shots in the entire game and scored from 2 of them. Luton had 17 shots, 10 on target, plus more possession. Even if you factor out Mbete's gifts they comfortably outplayed us and we got a lucky draw. How often will a side have 3 shots, score from two of them and benefit from an OG to score 3 times in a game. No id rather go with just watching the game. Form a view of it from that rather than stats which can be very deceptive. However we did it we scored 3 but one player gifted them 3 at the other end with some atrocious defending. If we started with the defence we had in the 2nd half, we win the game comfortably. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 21, 2022 18:09:54 GMT 1
No doubt xG and stats aren't up your street but we had an xG of 1.46 to Lutons 2.82, and the pen is 0.77 of that. We had 3 shots in the entire game and scored from 2 of them. Luton had 17 shots, 10 on target, plus more possession. Even if you factor out Mbete's gifts they comfortably outplayed us and we got a lucky draw. How often will a side have 3 shots, score from two of them and benefit from an OG to score 3 times in a game. No id rather go with just watching the game. Form a view of it from that rather than stats which can be very deceptive. However we did it we scored 3 but one player gifted them 3 at the other end with some atrocious defending. If we started with the defence we had in the 2nd half, we win the game comfortably. You can't say we gifted them 3 goals while ignoring they gifted us three. 2 own goals and a daft penalty. We did ok but Luton were by far the better side. Hull were the better side for the opening 25 mins. Gifted us a goal and they then fell apart. We controlled the game quite well to be fair. All the other games have been dire and we looked every bit relegation material in them |
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 21, 2022 18:15:46 GMT 1
No id rather go with just watching the game. Form a view of it from that rather than stats which can be very deceptive. However we did it we scored 3 but one player gifted them 3 at the other end with some atrocious defending. If we started with the defence we had in the 2nd half, we win the game comfortably. You can't say we gifted them 3 goals while ignoring they gifted us three. 2 own goals and a daft penalty. We did ok but Luton were by far the better side. Hull were the better side for the opening 25 mins. Gifted us a goal and they then fell apart. We controlled the game quite well to be fair. All the other games have been dire and we looked every bit relegation material in them Thought we were ok against Rotherham and Preston first half personally. I seem to be in the minority though. |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 21, 2022 18:16:54 GMT 1
He said Helik, Lees, Jackson, Thomas, Holmes we’re all playing well, and i agree with that.
So why we losing if we have players in good form? I honestly think it’s purely the team selection, in particular 2 strikers leaving us short elsewhere.
Put that right and i think we’re ok.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 21, 2022 18:23:16 GMT 1
I thought we had some good passages of play against Preston, but I was frustrated in the way we persisted with Thomas putting cross after cross in from the right side, but nothing came from them. Either we don't have the right players who can get on them, or the crosses, although they look good are to nobody in particular. It clearly wasn't paying any dividends, but we did not change that at all.
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Post by yellowbelly on Oct 21, 2022 18:29:46 GMT 1
For me this was a much improved presser. More information and less bluster produced an assured performance.
I believe he has sufficient drive, determination and motivation to turn this mini crisis around. He is a confident, optimistic person, maybe overly so, but those
are the sort of characteristics you need as a leader of men.
With the help and guidance of the staff in all Departments, I believe he will make a success of this gig if he is given time.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 21, 2022 18:33:16 GMT 1
Wow he talks a lot shit. We looked like a wet fart against Preston. Time to cut him loose.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 21, 2022 18:35:27 GMT 1
DATM summed up perfectly in two posts 😆😆😆
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Post by runner76 on Oct 21, 2022 18:53:44 GMT 1
For me this was a much improved presser. More information and less bluster produced an assured performance. I believe he has sufficient drive, determination and motivation to turn this mini crisis around. He is a confident, optimistic person, maybe overly so, but those are the sort of characteristics you need as a leader of men. With the help and guidance of the staff in all Departments, I believe he will make a success of this gig if he is given time. Well observed, Mrs Fotheringham |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Oct 21, 2022 18:54:11 GMT 1
I don’t know if it is the etiquette at press conferences, but the questioner never challenged him on one answer, before I turned off after five minutes. Easy enough to have a look at some of the sensible rumours on here and ask him about them, such as has he lost the dressing room, or has he had a bust up with Hogg. If all they are gojng to do is feed him questions to spiel, they may as well not bother, and just ask I’m to write a statement for each upcoming match.
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 21, 2022 18:55:45 GMT 1
He said Helik, Lees, Jackson, Thomas, Holmes we’re all playing well, and i agree with that. So why we losing if we have players in good form? I honestly think it’s purely the team selection, in particular 2 strikers leaving us short elsewhere. Put that right and i think we’re ok. Lees is playing absolutely shite |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 21, 2022 19:11:56 GMT 1
I can't watch it. I managed 1 minute and 52 seconds.
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