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Post by ambryboy on Mar 12, 2023 14:24:34 GMT 1
i wish we would stop lumping every single american group/ person in the same hat. .....We have had two town fans in charge for the last decade. How is that ending again ? lets give people a chance Why would an American purchase an average English team, about to head in to League One, and throw loads of his own cash at it with no benefit to themsleves outside of an unlikely return to the Premier League at some point. They'll put cash in with a massive interest payment on it, just like they're doing at Burnley. I'd take Burnley's League position right now. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 12, 2023 14:25:02 GMT 1
Agreed but these guys don't think like that. They're completely driven by money. They make a billion yet can't stop thinking about making another billion. They're wired differently from most people. Look at Bill Gates. As wealthy as they come yet still manipulated the Covid crisis for his own financial gain. I thought I read that Bill Gates gave enormous amounts of his wealth away? He went to great lengths to make out how great the vaccine was. This played a part in ramping up the Pfizer share price. He dumped his stock, making a fortune and "donated" it to charity. That charity being his own foundation. A tax trick perhaps? After dumping the stock, he quickly changed his tune on the pandemic and the vaccine. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 12, 2023 14:28:15 GMT 1
Perhaps I'm way off the mark with this one but the AZ owners excite me far more than the Americans. 2 billion isn't enough to get trophies/European football just look at Chelsea. You then add the risk of them just pumping debt into the club and one day getting bored when it doesn't work. The Dutch will hopefully loan us some of the best young Dutch talent and I am making the assumption they have a style they would like them play. Sustainability makes us a much more interesting proposition if we ever do get interest from a middle eastern prince or they get bored. Let's face it, in the next ten year we're not going to be pulling up any trees. Let's get some exciting young footballers in and try and enjoy what we're watching. I think Huddersfield as a town is far more represented by this approach than spending £££ on shite league 1 players. Providing they meet the criteria. No players U18 can be signed from Europe post Brexit and the rest have to meet certain requirements. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-player-signings-brexit-rules-age-b1764690.html |
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Post by horler1 on Mar 12, 2023 14:28:40 GMT 1
Perhaps I'm way off the mark with this one but the AZ owners excite me far more than the Americans. 2 billion isn't enough to get trophies/European football just look at Chelsea. You then add the risk of them just pumping debt into the club and one day getting bored when it doesn't work. The Dutch will hopefully loan us some of the best young Dutch talent and I am making the assumption they have a style they would like them play. Sustainability makes us a much more interesting proposition if we ever do get interest from a middle eastern prince or they get bored. Let's face it, in the next ten year we're not going to be pulling up any trees. Let's get some exciting young footballers in and try and enjoy what we're watching. I think Huddersfield as a town is far more represented by this approach than spending £££ on shite league 1 players. Having read a bit about them now, I have to say, me too. This seems genuinely exciting. Maybe that's why Dean is so keen to get this deal over the line? |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 12, 2023 15:10:00 GMT 1
Very interesting. So their policy of analytics to identify and progress the careers of academy players is a step up from what DH/PH were always aiming for. This is a whole new type of football governance and the sort of thing that i can see the present ownership going for as a replacement/enhancement to the system we have already. I'm wondering if some of these Alkmaar starlets may be given some loan time at Town instead of spending a fortune, gambling on PL duds. From feeling really dreary you have me feeling quite upbeat now. I'll see if I can find part 2. Can we bring their starlets in ? Brexit stopped freedom of movement with Europe. |
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Post by kjf on Mar 12, 2023 15:15:11 GMT 1
Americans more likely than Dutch at this moment in time
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 12, 2023 15:19:12 GMT 1
Very interesting. So their policy of analytics to identify and progress the careers of academy players is a step up from what DH/PH were always aiming for. This is a whole new type of football governance and the sort of thing that i can see the present ownership going for as a replacement/enhancement to the system we have already. I'm wondering if some of these Alkmaar starlets may be given some loan time at Town instead of spending a fortune, gambling on PL duds. From feeling really dreary you have me feeling quite upbeat now. I'll see if I can find part 2. Can we bring their starlets in ? Brexit stopped freedom of movement with Europe. Probably the preferable option... leave them until they are 19 to train and develop with a club that has the same ethos and where they are close to family and at home. Three EU signings per window allowed once they are over 18 as long as they get a work permit like any other overseas player. I'm sure the new owner will have investigated this and have an idea about how he wants to play it. It might be that we won't rely on players from Alkmaar. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 12, 2023 15:23:01 GMT 1
Very interesting. So their policy of analytics to identify and progress the careers of academy players is a step up from what DH/PH were always aiming for. This is a whole new type of football governance and the sort of thing that i can see the present ownership going for as a replacement/enhancement to the system we have already. I'm wondering if some of these Alkmaar starlets may be given some loan time at Town instead of spending a fortune, gambling on PL duds. From feeling really dreary you have me feeling quite upbeat now. I'll see if I can find part 2. Can we bring their starlets in ? Brexit stopped freedom of movement with Europe. Seems to be a few ways around that. Caught a bit of the Norwich Sunderland game earlier. The French lad that scored for Sunderland signed for them last August on a 5 year deal. The highest level he's played at was Ligue 2 in France. Think making youth appearances at international level (France U16, U17 & U19 in this case) can give you the necessary 'points' required. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Mar 12, 2023 17:23:54 GMT 1
Americans more likely than Dutch at this moment in time If it’s them and they are as wealthy as been said then this is just like Ipswich who went down but were taken over by billionaire Americans. Only thing they done, which we can’t do, is give someone their first managerial role which could be the reason they don’t go up this year. We need someone in who’s been there, done it and got the T-shirt. No time for ‘trying’ things next season. Get someone in who knows the league and get us out of their first time of asking! Otherwise it could be a long few years for us. |
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Post by Melc on Mar 12, 2023 17:27:02 GMT 1
Americans more likely than Dutch at this moment in time Well i hope you are right because this club is going to need decent investment to get back to the championship and become a top end team in it. We have tried the cheap and develop route with what now has turned into a disaster. |
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Post by Sio on Mar 12, 2023 17:32:19 GMT 1
All I want from whoever comes in is to see our potential as a club and big us up. Show some ambition and see the prospects for a club of our size and prestige.
We've had 10 years of talking ourselves down and ultimately it's come back to bite us.
We aren't a 'big' club but we could be much more than we've been told we are.
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Post by Melc on Mar 12, 2023 17:32:37 GMT 1
Well if we take this route that will be the end of seeing the championship anytime soon. This club has suffered from the lack of serious investment since we came down from the premiership, the last thing we need is a continuation of failing to compete yet again! |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 12, 2023 17:37:07 GMT 1
Well if we take this route that will be the end of seeing the championship anytime soon. This club has suffered from the lack of serious investment since we came down from the premiership, the last thing we need is a continuation of failing to compete yet again! This is how 'doing a Brentford' starts though. The investment will be in the facility and the staff namely the talent spotters which is probably why we only seem to get the odd success now. If we managed to find a Sorba Thomas type for every position and then more coming through then we'd be set up for years. Then you can start spending more on the next level of player who would in turn be sold for the next level of transfer fee. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 12, 2023 17:38:32 GMT 1
All I want from whoever comes in is to see our potential as a club and big us up. Show some ambition and see the prospects for a club of our size and prestige. We've had 10 years of talking ourselves down and ultimately it's come back to bite us. We aren't a 'big' club but we could be much more than we've been told we are. Went from “can’t compete with parachute clubs” to being unable to compete with none parachute clubs whilst being one ourselves 😂 |
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Post by Melc on Mar 12, 2023 17:47:39 GMT 1
Well if we take this route that will be the end of seeing the championship anytime soon. This club has suffered from the lack of serious investment since we came down from the premiership, the last thing we need is a continuation of failing to compete yet again! This is how 'doing a Brentford' starts though. The investment will be in the facility and the staff namely the talent spotters which is probably why we only seem to get the odd success now. If we managed to find a Sorba Thomas type for every position and then more coming through then we'd be set up for years. Then you can start spending more on the next level of player who would in turn be sold for the next level of transfer fee. Matthew Benham has invested nearly £114m into Brentford, plus they have added attraction being in London. Add to that the Brexit factor and things have changed. www.skysports.com/football/news/11748/12187923/how-brentfords-transfer-strategy-has-been-altered-by-brexit |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 12, 2023 18:05:10 GMT 1
All I want from whoever comes in is to see our potential as a club and big us up. Show some ambition and see the prospects for a club of our size and prestige. We've had 10 years of talking ourselves down and ultimately it's come back to bite us. We aren't a 'big' club but we could be much more than we've been told we are. Went from “can’t compete with parachute clubs” to being unable to compete with none parachute clubs whilst being one ourselves 😂 To not being able to compete with anyone 😕 |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Mar 12, 2023 18:12:34 GMT 1
All I want from whoever comes in is to see our potential as a club and big us up. Show some ambition and see the prospects for a club of our size and prestige. We've had 10 years of talking ourselves down and ultimately it's come back to bite us. We aren't a 'big' club but we could be much more than we've been told we are. See my post last night. Then see LB’s interview with sky sports first game of the season. Still fucked off about it. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 12, 2023 18:14:40 GMT 1
This is how 'doing a Brentford' starts though. The investment will be in the facility and the staff namely the talent spotters which is probably why we only seem to get the odd success now. If we managed to find a Sorba Thomas type for every position and then more coming through then we'd be set up for years. Then you can start spending more on the next level of player who would in turn be sold for the next level of transfer fee. Matthew Benham has invested nearly £114m into Brentford, plus they have added attraction being in London. Add to that the Brexit factor and things have changed. www.skysports.com/football/news/11748/12187923/how-brentfords-transfer-strategy-has-been-altered-by-brexitBenham has been involved for over 15 years so the project is not an overnight success. Brexit closes some doors but there's still accessible markets abroad. Not to mention the likes of Toney, Watkins, Raya, Jansson and Pinnock who were signed from other EFL clubs and are now worth considerably more than their initial fees or in Watkins case sold for more. |
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 12, 2023 18:36:38 GMT 1
Apologies if it's mentioned elsewhere (I hadn't really followed this thread up to now) but what do we know about the American consortium?
First impression on the Dutch one looks impressive though.
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Post by terrier10 on Mar 12, 2023 18:49:41 GMT 1
All I want from whoever comes in is to see our potential as a club and big us up. Show some ambition and see the prospects for a club of our size and prestige. We've had 10 years of talking ourselves down and ultimately it's come back to bite us. We aren't a 'big' club but we could be much more than we've been told we are. Went from “can’t compete with parachute clubs” to being unable to compete with none parachute clubs whilst being one ourselves 😂 Just spat my beer out at that 😂 Summed the last few years up perfectly! |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 12, 2023 18:52:57 GMT 1
Perhaps I'm way off the mark with this one but the AZ owners excite me far more than the Americans. 2 billion isn't enough to get trophies/European football just look at Chelsea. You then add the risk of them just pumping debt into the club and one day getting bored when it doesn't work. The Dutch will hopefully loan us some of the best young Dutch talent and I am making the assumption they have a style they would like them play. Sustainability makes us a much more interesting proposition if we ever do get interest from a middle eastern prince or they get bored. Let's face it, in the next ten year we're not going to be pulling up any trees. Let's get some exciting young footballers in and try and enjoy what we're watching. I think Huddersfield as a town is far more represented by this approach than spending £££ on shite league 1 players. Providing they meet the criteria. No players U18 can be signed from Europe post Brexit and the rest have to meet certain requirements. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-player-signings-brexit-rules-age-b1764690.htmlI just Googled ‘hot 18 year old Dutch talent’ to see what may be in store. Anyone got any Deep Heat? |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 12, 2023 19:22:20 GMT 1
I just Googled ‘hot 18 year old Dutch talent’ to see what may be in store. Anyone got any Deep Heat? Ooooof 😂😂😂 |
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Post by wildhogg on Mar 12, 2023 21:52:53 GMT 1
Much rather have the Dutch bloke than some American consortium.
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 12, 2023 21:58:14 GMT 1
Yanks for me as long as they’re wanting to push the club forward that’s all I want, AZ idea is nice but do they have the money for a full clear out etc there model is on good scouting which we need but also in bringing through there own as we currently don’t have an academy that’s tough to maintain.
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 12, 2023 22:23:06 GMT 1
We probably need to know their plans regarding the academy, stadium, site but that won't happen until they takeover I guess
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 13, 2023 8:31:43 GMT 1
So two choices, (1) throw money at it like the majority of Championship clubs hoping that one season everything comes together, (2) use technology and a totally different system to try and compete and eventually be successful.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 13, 2023 9:39:51 GMT 1
So two choices, (1) throw money at it like the majority of Championship clubs hoping that one season everything comes together, (2) use technology and a totally different system to try and compete and eventually be successful. Technology and Town 😕. Can't even get a signal in the ground 😁 |
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 9:42:28 GMT 1
So two choices, (1) throw money at it like the majority of Championship clubs hoping that one season everything comes together, (2) use technology and a totally different system to try and compete and eventually be successful. Technology and Town 😕. Can't even get a signal in the ground 😁 Same with every ground, to be fair. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 13, 2023 9:59:21 GMT 1
Technology and Town 😕. Can't even get a signal in the ground 😁 Same with every ground, to be fair. Yeah, its just sheer numbers all trying to use the local mast(s), what they need is wifi and with wifi comes up-selling opportunities. Having said that, it might not be as much of an issue with 6,000 there next season. |
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 10:07:06 GMT 1
Same with every ground, to be fair. Yeah, its just sheer numbers all trying to use the local mast(s), what they need is wifi and with wifi comes up-selling opportunities. Having said that, it might not be as much of an issue with 6,000 there next season. It's a pet hate of mine, because it seems like everyone else around me can get the scores at half-time and WhatsApp or whatever and I can't get anything! Anywhere! |
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