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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 13, 2023 10:15:23 GMT 1
So two choices, (1) throw money at it like the majority of Championship clubs hoping that one season everything comes together, (2) use technology and a totally different system to try and compete and eventually be successful. Technology and Town 😕. Can't even get a signal in the ground 😁 We struggle to work a fax machine or set up a live stream 🤣 |
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Post by Sio on Mar 13, 2023 10:40:21 GMT 1
Bit of a tangent, but I got thinking about this whole debacle this morning. If a single image had to sum up the utter lack of respect we gave ourself as a club from 2018 onwards... Whoever comes in: please do not repeat this level of ineptitude.  |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 13, 2023 10:48:55 GMT 1
Technology and Town 😕. Can't even get a signal in the ground 😁 Same with every ground, to be fair. I was at a NFL game at Spurs stadium and had Town v Hull streaming on my phone with a perfect signal. There were a lot more people at that game than one at a Town match too. I presume there will be a way via technology but it costs, and there lies the problem. Costs. |
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 10:54:16 GMT 1
Same with every ground, to be fair. I was at a NFL game at Spurs stadium and had Town v Hull streaming on my phone with a perfect signal. There were a lot more people at that game than one at a Town match too. I presume there will be a way via technology but it costs, and there lies the problem. Costs. I'm usually on packed trains and everyone on the train can get a signal but me  |
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 10:55:59 GMT 1
Bit of a tangent, but I got thinking about this whole debacle this morning. If a single image had to sum up the utter lack of respect we gave ourself as a club from 2018 onwards... Whoever comes in: please do not repeat this level of ineptitude. One of the most embarrassing episodes in our history. It was absolutely pathetic and summed up Hodgkinson's era for me, just amateur hour. It wouldn't have been a problem if they'd come out in the shirt and then switched them before the kick-off, surprise! But to have played on in them and carry the 'joke' on for much longer than was necessary was tedious and embarrasing. And didn't we get a massive fine for it? |
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 11:02:36 GMT 1
In the FA's written reasons Martin Coy - who refereed the friendly on 17 July - said Huddersfield chairman Phil Hodgkinson had asked him to ban them from wearing the kit before the match.
"He said that my decision could then potentially be good publicity and part of the advertising campaign," Coy said in a witness statement.
"I was uncomfortable with this and felt it was not my place to ban the kit outright, but I informed them that I would recommend they followed the rules and advice from The FA."
Coy was then told Huddersfield would not wear the shirt, details of which the club's operations manager Ann Hough said were kept from the Terriers board until the day of the game.
The FA warned the club on the same day that they may take action if the shirt was worn, but Hodgkinson said the sponsor threatened legal action if they did not wear it.
"The sponsor said that it would be deemed to be a material breach of the sponsorship agreement if the team did not wear the oversized logo," he said.
"In the circumstances, when faced with the threat of serious legal action from the club's main sponsor, and with no time to seek external legal advice, we felt we had no alternative but to wear the oversized logo in the match."
'Huddersfield motives were financial'
Huddersfield said they did not think the FA's kit regulations applied to friendlies, but the commission said it was a "blatant disregard" of the rules.
"The club's motives were financial, deliberately running the risk of being 'charged'," it said.
"The decision not to wear the sash shirt was one the club should have made; it should not have tried to hide behind the referee.
"Involving the referee in that way was wrong and also not an insignificant aggravating factor. The referee displayed commendable judgment in the face of such conduct."
The FA told the panel: "The decision to enlarge the advertisement in such an overt manner was irresponsible, particularly in the current climate regarding gambling."
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Post by prepare on Mar 13, 2023 11:45:08 GMT 1
Same with every ground, to be fair. Yeah, its just sheer numbers all trying to use the local mast(s), what they need is wifi and with wifi comes up-selling opportunities. Having said that, it might not be as much of an issue with 6,000 there next season. town will still get double that in league one full stop |
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Post by leroy212 on Mar 13, 2023 13:20:31 GMT 1
Yeah, its just sheer numbers all trying to use the local mast(s), what they need is wifi and with wifi comes up-selling opportunities. Having said that, it might not be as much of an issue with 6,000 there next season. town will still get double that in league one full stop Be lucky if there's 10000 next year |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 13, 2023 13:21:52 GMT 1
Yeah, its just sheer numbers all trying to use the local mast(s), what they need is wifi and with wifi comes up-selling opportunities. Having said that, it might not be as much of an issue with 6,000 there next season. town will still get double that in league one full stop Well, I'd say there were about 9k in the ground vs Bristol City, which doesn't bode well. |
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Post by midge on Mar 13, 2023 13:35:48 GMT 1
town will still get double that in league one full stop Be lucky if there's 10000 next year Amazing that isn’t it when we had well over that number of ‘loyal’ fans when Wembley Play Off final tickets were up for grabs last season, or away tickets/‘loyalty points’ discussions were going on in the Premier League 😬 |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 13, 2023 13:42:21 GMT 1
town will still get double that in league one full stop Well, I'd say there were about 9k in the ground vs Bristol City, which doesn't bode well. I would say around 9k season ticket holders will renew under current circumstances, only boosted due to it being the last season of the price freeze for £249 tickets. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 13, 2023 14:56:29 GMT 1
Same with every ground, to be fair. Yeah, its just sheer numbers all trying to use the local mast(s), what they need is wifi and with wifi comes up-selling opportunities. Having said that, it might not be as much of an issue with 6,000 there next season. The cost of stadium Wi-Fi will be coming down yr on yr, but it obviously needs reasonably large b/w to service the requirements of a full stadium. For some clubs this will still cost in, even for the 20-30 times a year it would be utilised, but I’ve never thought it would for Town until the business case stacks up. The reason it’s good at Spurs is that they know they have a captive audience of 60k at every event, plus a few bonus events beyond the football club (NFL, challenge cup etc.) |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 13, 2023 14:57:22 GMT 1
Bit of a tangent, but I got thinking about this whole debacle this morning. If a single image had to sum up the utter lack of respect we gave ourself as a club from 2018 onwards... Whoever comes in: please do not repeat this level of ineptitude. This was a real low point for me. Heads should have rolled for this… |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 13, 2023 15:01:27 GMT 1
In the FA's written reasons Martin Coy - who refereed the friendly on 17 July - said Huddersfield chairman Phil Hodgkinson had asked him to ban them from wearing the kit before the match.
"He said that my decision could then potentially be good publicity and part of the advertising campaign," Coy said in a witness statement.
"I was uncomfortable with this and felt it was not my place to ban the kit outright, but I informed them that I would recommend they followed the rules and advice from The FA." Coy was then told Huddersfield would not wear the shirt, details of which the club's operations manager Ann Hough said were kept from the Terriers board until the day of the game. The FA warned the club on the same day that they may take action if the shirt was worn, but Hodgkinson said the sponsor threatened legal action if they did not wear it. "The sponsor said that it would be deemed to be a material breach of the sponsorship agreement if the team did not wear the oversized logo," he said. "In the circumstances, when faced with the threat of serious legal action from the club's main sponsor, and with no time to seek external legal advice, we felt we had no alternative but to wear the oversized logo in the match." 'Huddersfield motives were financial' Huddersfield said they did not think the FA's kit regulations applied to friendlies, but the commission said it was a "blatant disregard" of the rules. "The club's motives were financial, deliberately running the risk of being 'charged'," it said. "The decision not to wear the sash shirt was one the club should have made; it should not have tried to hide behind the referee. "Involving the referee in that way was wrong and also not an insignificant aggravating factor. The referee displayed commendable judgment in the face of such conduct." The FA told the panel: "The decision to enlarge the advertisement in such an overt manner was irresponsible, particularly in the current climate regarding gambling." I know this is me going down a conspiracy rabbit hole here, but imagine if the referees unconsciously sided with Martin Coy and we’ve been reaping the benefit of this piss poor circus led decision? |
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Post by alexdire on Mar 13, 2023 15:29:48 GMT 1
Well, I'd say there were about 9k in the ground vs Bristol City, which doesn't bode well. I would say around 9k season ticket holders will renew under current circumstances, only boosted due to it being the last season of the price freeze for £249 tickets. That won't be honoured if we go into administration. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Mar 13, 2023 15:50:01 GMT 1
I like the idea of this bloke from AZ coming in. Clean break, new ideas. Could easily be marketed in a way that'd get weary fans on board- a bit of a mention of total football and an orange away kit and jobs a good un.
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 13, 2023 15:56:01 GMT 1
I would say around 9k season ticket holders will renew under current circumstances, only boosted due to it being the last season of the price freeze for £249 tickets. That won't be honoured if we go into administration. You could well be right there, don't know the ins and outs concerning things of that nature!. |
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Post by Moooooy on Mar 13, 2023 16:07:47 GMT 1
I would say around 9k season ticket holders will renew under current circumstances, only boosted due to it being the last season of the price freeze for £249 tickets. That won't be honoured if we go into administration. Even if we avoid administration would the new owners have to honour it? I mean it’d be a pretty difficult sell to come in and bump ST prices up after a relegation, but they may feel they need to do that for the club to be sustainable. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Mar 13, 2023 16:33:57 GMT 1
Bit of a tangent, but I got thinking about this whole debacle this morning. If a single image had to sum up the utter lack of respect we gave ourself as a club from 2018 onwards... Whoever comes in: please do not repeat this level of ineptitude. This was a real low point for me. Heads should have rolled for this… Did anyone else just have a good laugh about it? Or was it just me? Leaving the morals of gambling sponsorship issues aside of course. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 13, 2023 16:45:10 GMT 1
This was a real low point for me. Heads should have rolled for this… Did anyone else just have a good laugh about it? Or was it just me? Leaving the morals of gambling sponsorship issues aside of course. It was utterly crass marketing. I seem to recall there was some run-up to this as well, trying to get folk on tenterhooks in the days prior to the game? If it had been Harry Haddock’s fish bar I’d have had a laugh, but gambling sponsorship has a bit of a dark underbelly for me personally. Edit to say apologies, I should have considered your last point on the matter. Obviously a bit difficult to dissect an opinion. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 13, 2023 16:47:20 GMT 1
And we still have gambling sponsorship all over our shirts today. It was principally the manner of that reveal that was really third rate…
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 13, 2023 17:05:17 GMT 1
The good thing about the Paddy Power sponsorship was that after the Rochdale friendly debacle, we went back to the good old days of no sponsorship logo on the front of the shirts.
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 17:15:53 GMT 1
The good thing about the Paddy Power sponsorship was that after the Rochdale friendly debacle, we went back to the good old days of no sponsorship logo on the front of the shirts. And then the season after we couldn't get a sponsor, so spent the first few months of the season with no sponsor and then resorted to auctioning it off for every game. Amateur hour. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 13, 2023 18:30:41 GMT 1
The good thing about the Paddy Power sponsorship was that after the Rochdale friendly debacle, we went back to the good old days of no sponsorship logo on the front of the shirts. Shirts look crap without a sponsor, in my opinion. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 13, 2023 18:38:57 GMT 1
I’m surprised that Sean Jarvis doesn’t get much of a mention these days.
In my opinion, he’s exactly the man we need, after the ownership issues are resolved.
The perfect link between the Board and the supporters.
I’m sure that he could restore some of the damage.
I know he’s at Leicestershire but maybe could be persuaded to return?
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Post by hthp on Mar 13, 2023 18:45:34 GMT 1
I’m surprised that Sean Jarvis doesn’t get much of a mention these days. In my opinion, he’s exactly the man we need, after the ownership issues are resolved. The perfect link between the Board and the supporters. I’m sure that he could restore some of the damage. I know he’s at Leicestershire but maybe could be persuaded to return? Just a question here, why do we always have to look backwards? Need a new manager? Bring Wagner back. Need some new players? Bring XYZ former player back. Need some new commercial staff? Bring back Sean Jarvis. Why can't we just move on and find the best people for the job instead of constantly harking back to the past? |
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 13, 2023 18:46:40 GMT 1
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 13, 2023 18:50:29 GMT 1
I like the idea of this bloke from AZ coming in. Clean break, new ideas. Could easily be marketed in a way that'd get weary fans on board- a bit of a mention of total football and an orange away kit and jobs a good un. It could be very interesting. Someone who actually has a track record of success BEFORE they get here would be novel at Town. But it just depends on the size of the budget we’d be working too, getting out of League 1 will be more expensive than standing still in the Championship due to the lack of TV revenue. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Mar 13, 2023 18:50:42 GMT 1
I’m surprised that Sean Jarvis doesn’t get much of a mention these days. In my opinion, he’s exactly the man we need, after the ownership issues are resolved. The perfect link between the Board and the supporters. I’m sure that he could restore some of the damage. I know he’s at Leicestershire but maybe could be persuaded to return? I hoped that he would have either sorted a consortium or be the chief exec for the owners. |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 13, 2023 18:57:40 GMT 1
I’m surprised that Sean Jarvis doesn’t get much of a mention these days. In my opinion, he’s exactly the man we need, after the ownership issues are resolved. The perfect link between the Board and the supporters. I’m sure that he could restore some of the damage. I know he’s at Leicestershire but maybe could be persuaded to return? It's quite odd Sean's name gets mentioned directly after the negative posts about the Paddy Power stunt (which I thought was quite amusing and it certainly enabled PP to get good value from the deal with us...and certainly enabled HTFC to get more visibility and possibly sell a few more shirts than they otherwise might have. It was also quite funny watching/reading a load of folk totally blow their top about something so trivial and inconsequential!). digitalsport.co/commercial-director-of-huddersfield-town-sean-jarvis-the-story-behind-the-paddy-power-kit-launchAnd then throw in the extra £30k raised for charity - alongside I think I read somewhere else that the income from Paddy Power was ring-fenced for the Town Foundation. |
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