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Oct 10, 2023 17:04:00 GMT 1
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 10, 2023 17:04:00 GMT 1
Others have expressed similar opinions to me on Nagle and the possibility of him owning the ground and no-one has said a thing. I'm tired of having to fight back against the constant backlash against whatever I post. A number of posters in this thread alone have put words in my mouth, accused me of hating Nagle, accused me of spreading negativity, accused me of condoning abuse towards Nagle all because I have given my reasons for not trusting the bloke. I'm suspicious of any new owner, whereas there's a general consensus on here that he's untouchable (especially from yourself) and the only accepted view is that he's great, he's got our best interests at heart and he's completely trustworthy. Seems like I'm not allowed to view him with an air of suspicion. Others have expressed similar opinions, yet there's no backlash, no accusations. Are you going to accuse Pozza (for example) of hating him? Condoning the abuse of him? Spreading negativity? Or is Pozza just stating his opinions and his concerns about a pretty important matter? And that is the reason why Lee posters are like they are towards you. I have never ever said he is untouchable. You claim people put words in your mouth and then come out with things like that. That is why you get backlash. I shall say it one last time to you, see if that brain cell stores it for once. Nagel has done nothing to warrant the abuse some have given him. So I stuck yp for him. That doesn't mean he is untouchable. That doesn't mean I am saying he has done lots of good things. That is saying, that someone is getting abuse for doing nothing wrong. I know this goes back to Warnock too with you. I even said on that I like them both just as much as eachother. Once again, you failed to process that. This is why people jump on you quickly. You are too quick to argue, jump on others and then play the victim when people do it back. Pozza has never jumped and made things up about what I have said. It's got nothing to do with Warnock. Just mute my posts Josh and I'll do the same with yours. I'm not wasting anymore energy going over old ground. I've nothing further to add about Nagle and certainly nothing further to say to you. |
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Oct 10, 2023 17:12:48 GMT 1
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Post by rockwall on Oct 10, 2023 17:12:48 GMT 1
And that is the reason why Lee posters are like they are towards you. I have never ever said he is untouchable. You claim people put words in your mouth and then come out with things like that. That is why you get backlash. I shall say it one last time to you, see if that brain cell stores it for once. Nagel has done nothing to warrant the abuse some have given him. So I stuck yp for him. That doesn't mean he is untouchable. That doesn't mean I am saying he has done lots of good things. That is saying, that someone is getting abuse for doing nothing wrong. I know this goes back to Warnock too with you. I even said on that I like them both just as much as eachother. Once again, you failed to process that. This is why people jump on you quickly. You are too quick to argue, jump on others and then play the victim when people do it back. Pozza has never jumped and made things up about what I have said. It's got nothing to do with Warnock. Just mute my posts Josh and I'll do the same with yours. I'm not wasting anymore energy going over old ground. I've nothing further to add about Nagle and certainly nothing further to say to you. Josh? Definitely got me mixed up with someone else. |
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Post by detox on Oct 10, 2023 17:17:15 GMT 1
Seems we were very naive back in the 90,s We have been well and truly done over on this one...we own 40 percent of the structure but not the land and also pay rent!! Mate - you're talking rubbish.. The land has always been owned by KMC Leeds Rd land was owned by KMC
'We' owned 40% of KSDL..as did KMC..we didn't pay 'rent', we paid our share of the running of KSDL...which included debt repayment, stadium management etc....
I don't know what you're getting into a tizzy about... KN can own the buildings and have a long lease on the land...KMC will always own the land then they can control what happens to it...like if someone wanted to demolish the JSS and build a towe block on it.
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Oct 10, 2023 17:17:59 GMT 1
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 10, 2023 17:17:59 GMT 1
It's got nothing to do with Warnock. Just mute my posts Josh and I'll do the same with yours. I'm not wasting anymore energy going over old ground. I've nothing further to add about Nagle and certainly nothing further to say to you. Josh? Definitely got me mixed up with someone else. Whatever. Seeing as though you know me so well, don't bother talking to me if our paths cross again. |
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Oct 10, 2023 17:58:18 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 10, 2023 17:58:18 GMT 1
Apologies, I meant to put in the post it wasn't specifically aimed at you as I don't particularly take notice of who posts what unless I've a keen interest. KN has been getting stupid abuse I agree, and htafcokay has also condemned it, but gets accused of hating KN for some reason. You can distrust someone without hating them and I know okay's posting style can appear quite acerbic but is it really surprising when he gets jumped on constantly? Particularly with his opinion on Corboran (which I agree with regarding the football being shit AND successful) he seems to get slated a LOT. How would you react if everything you said was twisted or misinterpreted? I say that I'll wait until Nagle does something before I started showering him with praise = I hate Nagle. I express my disappointment about the departure of Warnock and state that Moore doesn't really inspire me = I don't want Moore here. I say I'm a bit wary of the ground being owned by one person in the future = Spreading negativity and I want Nagle to fail. I post on Twitter that Darren Moore is the first Town manager not get a win in his first four games since Jan Siewert = I'm deliberately being misleading and I hate Darren Moore and want him to fail. I state that less than three points at Wednesday (who are bottom of the league and 10 games without a win) isn't really acceptable = I want us to lose just so I can moan. And that is literally in the last week. Is there any wonder I'm always on the defensive? Cheer up. Smiler 😉😁 |
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Oct 10, 2023 18:28:28 GMT 1
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Post by King Neil on Oct 10, 2023 18:28:28 GMT 1
I have no issues with one man owning the stadium What if the one man who bought the stadium one day decided to turn round and charge us £5m a season to use the stadium? How would you feel about that? Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith It's being slightly paranoid to be thinking the worst all the time and what may happen...I might get run over by a bus tomorrow but I'm not going to stop crossing the road We had a good owner who loved/ loves the club and he got run out of Town!...it is what it is I just want rid of that blood sucking parasite fartown,,gaining everything on the back of the football club....we gave up far more than them and are not a lot better off..20 percent better off on ownership of the building... Fartown cannot take control of the stadium nor want to risk it...they would prefer to keep sucking off us!!.... We Don't/can't have our own club shop inside the stadium...having to see their shirts in the same shop as us is cringeworthy... |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 10, 2023 21:04:20 GMT 1
We Don't/can't have our own club shop inside the stadium...having to see their shirts in the same shop as us is cringeworthy... You don't seem concerned at all that an individual with little history in connection with our club (if I can still call it that) could own our ground .... ....with all the examples of how that scenario can pan out very very badly..... .. but you're worked up about a few Giants shirts in the club shop..... |
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Oct 10, 2023 21:20:39 GMT 1
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Post by harris on Oct 10, 2023 21:20:39 GMT 1
I have no issues with one man owning the stadium What if the one man who bought the stadium one day decided to turn round and charge us £5m a season to use the stadium? How would you feel about that? Genuine question, haven’t read through this whole thread so apologies if I’ve missed it, is there history of this happening with owners and stadiums? Seems quite an extreme example to use in your argument if not. I would expect that the club would own the stadium rather than Nagle as an individual anyway. Like what he’s been doing with the memorabilia (very different I know) and giving it back to the club. Just cannot see him holding the club to ransom. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 10, 2023 21:27:53 GMT 1
Seems we were very naive back in the 90,s We have been well and truly done over on this one...we own 40 percent of the structure but not the land and also pay rent!! I'm flabbergasted this is a surprise to anyone! |
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Oct 10, 2023 21:29:13 GMT 1
Post by townarentbest on Oct 10, 2023 21:29:13 GMT 1
If I was kev I wouldn't take control of the stadium without the freehold of the land...better to let ksdl go bust and get it all anyway at a reduced cost If you were Kev would you have taken control of Canalside without the freehold of the land? |
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Post by King Neil on Oct 10, 2023 21:54:54 GMT 1
If I was kev I wouldn't take control of the stadium without the freehold of the land...better to let ksdl go bust and get it all anyway at a reduced cost If you were Kev would you have taken control of Canalside without the freehold of the land? It's seems quite normal to me that the owner would want to own the stadium outright if he could make this happen Why would fans want him to spend millions on the playing staff yet be up in arms about him owning the stadium?? |
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Oct 10, 2023 22:41:59 GMT 1
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Oct 10, 2023 22:41:59 GMT 1
I have no issues with one man owning the stadium What if the one man who bought the stadium one day decided to turn round and charge us £5m a season to use the stadium? How would you feel about that? It's also not necessarily about mistrusting KN, who knows who he might sell it to in the years to come and what their motivations might be. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 10, 2023 23:04:40 GMT 1
What if the one man who bought the stadium one day decided to turn round and charge us £5m a season to use the stadium? How would you feel about that? It's also not necessarily about mistrusting KN, who knows who he might sell it to in the years to come and what their motivations might be. It’s a spurious point…given also “who knows who KN might sell Hudds Town FC to in future and what their motivations might be”. He’s the owner, we have to give him a chance to demonstrate his intent over the next 5…7…10 years, if we don’t then there’s no point anyone owning the club and we might as well call it a day. |
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Post by Wingman on Oct 11, 2023 8:01:34 GMT 1
Stadium will be sorted and it should be good for all, the Kirklees part is all agreed. Your posting style is very familiar. Are the admins sure this is not a returning poster under a different name (and is this still against forum rules?). My suspicion of previous incarnation is htafc35, I think was the poster's name. There was another one very similar too, kfg88, or something like that. Pound to a penny it's one of those two. Strong gut feeling it's the return of htafc35 though. Wingman overtonterrierspirit@keitham11532  Noted. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 11, 2023 8:48:09 GMT 1
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Oct 11, 2023 9:02:20 GMT 1
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Post by King Neil on Oct 11, 2023 9:02:20 GMT 1
Yes very Yet so much paranoia over him owning the stadium |
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Post by benhomly on Oct 11, 2023 9:03:01 GMT 1
Yet there will still be people on here who will view our new regime with suspicion. Quite why anyone from California would want to spend any time whatsoever in my beloved town is beyond me but it's got to be a positive surely? Lets face it Kirklees wouldn't be capable of doing it on their own so any help they can get has to be good. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 11, 2023 9:18:54 GMT 1
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Oct 11, 2023 9:49:42 GMT 1
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Post by King Neil on Oct 11, 2023 9:49:42 GMT 1
Lots of things can happen but it doesn't mean it will I can not understand the logic of why some fan's are happy for him to empty his pockets on the team,,yet don't want him owning the stadium By just owning the club he could spend millions and later down the road stop funding the club..a la Chansiri...then we go into administration and drop a couple of divisions....what is the difference?  ? By him just owning the club there is an element of risk!! He has bought the club and saved us from league one...he has bought the triple championship medals and donated them to the club!! I don't agree with him on the warnock situation and have voiced my opinion on that and hope it doesn't damage the club You either back him fully or don't back him at all...you can't just pick the bits you like when he's investing millions into the club |
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Oct 11, 2023 9:53:10 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 11, 2023 9:53:10 GMT 1
What if the one man who bought the stadium one day decided to turn round and charge us £5m a season to use the stadium? How would you feel about that? Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith It's being slightly paranoid to be thinking the worst all the time and what may happen...I might get run over by a bus tomorrow but I'm not going to stop crossing the road We had a good owner who loved/ loves the club and he got run out of Town!...it is what it is I just want rid of that blood sucking parasite fartown,,gaining everything on the back of the football club....we gave up far more than them and are not a lot better off..20 percent better off on ownership of the building... Fartown cannot take control of the stadium nor want to risk it...they would prefer to keep sucking off us!!.... We Don't/can't have our own club shop inside the stadium...having to see their shirts in the same shop as us is cringeworthy... You seem to be banging a lot of drums on this thread, not sure that exclusivity is the way forward here. If having to see their merchandise in the same shop, then I think you need to grow up a bit. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 11, 2023 9:54:52 GMT 1
Lots of things can happen but it doesn't mean it will I can not understand the logic of why some fan's are happy for him to empty his pockets on the team,,yet don't want him owning the stadium By just owning the club he could spend millions and later down the road stop funding the club..a la Chansiri...then we go into administration and drop a couple of divisions....what is the difference? ? By him just owning the club there is an element of risk!! He has bought the club and saved us from league one...he has bought the triple championship medals and donated them to the club!! I don't agree with him on the warnock situation and have voiced my opinion on that and hope it doesn't damage the club You either back him fully or don't back him at all...you can't just pick the bits you like when he's investing millions into the club And that's where you lose me. |
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Oct 11, 2023 10:02:38 GMT 1
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Post by King Neil on Oct 11, 2023 10:02:38 GMT 1
Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith It's being slightly paranoid to be thinking the worst all the time and what may happen...I might get run over by a bus tomorrow but I'm not going to stop crossing the road We had a good owner who loved/ loves the club and he got run out of Town!...it is what it is I just want rid of that blood sucking parasite fartown,,gaining everything on the back of the football club....we gave up far more than them and are not a lot better off..20 percent better off on ownership of the building... Fartown cannot take control of the stadium nor want to risk it...they would prefer to keep sucking off us!!.... We Don't/can't have our own club shop inside the stadium...having to see their shirts in the same shop as us is cringeworthy... You seem to be banging a lot of drums on this thread, not sure that exclusivity is the way forward here. If having to see their merchandise in the same shop, then I think you need to grow up a bit. That's not even a response |
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Oct 11, 2023 10:03:12 GMT 1
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Post by King Neil on Oct 11, 2023 10:03:12 GMT 1
Lots of things can happen but it doesn't mean it will I can not understand the logic of why some fan's are happy for him to empty his pockets on the team,,yet don't want him owning the stadium By just owning the club he could spend millions and later down the road stop funding the club..a la Chansiri...then we go into administration and drop a couple of divisions....what is the difference? ? By him just owning the club there is an element of risk!! He has bought the club and saved us from league one...he has bought the triple championship medals and donated them to the club!! I don't agree with him on the warnock situation and have voiced my opinion on that and hope it doesn't damage the club You either back him fully or don't back him at all...you can't just pick the bits you like when he's investing millions into the club And that's where you lose me. You lost me a long time ago |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 11, 2023 10:03:38 GMT 1
This is more like it! Was never a supporter of HD ONE project. This makes much more sense and seems a realistic success. We already have transport links in the town centre, it's only a short walk to the stadium, there's already footfall in town (massively declined in the last few years) there's land and buildings aplenty going spare especially on the walk down to the ground. The town centre needs a huge facelift and more reasons to draw people into the town. HD ONE I thought HD ONE seemed like they were going to be building a mini town centre/ entertainment village that would further detract from Town, be isolated down by the ground and quickly fail. Okay building a hotel, bars, bowling alleys and saying it's going to create jobs but it's not an income that's going to stimulate significant growth back into the local economy. We need a mix of different industries. Huddersfield is incomparable to Leeds, Manchester but if you walk round there during a late afternoon, you'll see workers out in bars, restaurants, shops after work. In Huddersfield hardly anyone works in the town centre but retail staff, traffic wardens and beggars. Hopefully this will make Town busier and not the ghost town that it currently is. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 11, 2023 10:09:17 GMT 1
And that's where you lose me. You lost me a long time ago That's fine. You were the one going absolutely mental when Warnock left, so much so that you got banned for posting some really bizarre stuff and now a week later, you're having a go at people because they're a bit cautious at the prospect of the ground being owned by a single person and now bizarrely slagging the Giants off? Anything you say can be taken with a pinch of salt, it seems. |
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Post by ram on Oct 11, 2023 10:14:26 GMT 1
If Kevin Nagle was able to buy the stadium he would own the club and the stadium. Should he in the future decide to sell the club but keep the stadium,there would be NO takers for that deal.Only an idiot would buy a club when someone else owned the stadium.
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Oct 11, 2023 10:17:09 GMT 1
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Post by King Neil on Oct 11, 2023 10:17:09 GMT 1
You lost me a long time ago That's fine. You were the one going absolutely mental when Warnock left, so much so that you got banned for posting some really bizarre stuff and now a week later, you're having a go at people because they're a bit cautious at the prospect of the ground being owned by a single person and now bizarrely slagging the Giants off? Anything you say can be taken with a pinch of salt, it seems. Not having a go...I thought we were discussing things Just because I disagree with him on warnock..(still believe it was over the tweets)..it doesn't mean I'm against everything he says he is going to do If we can't take a leap of faith and hope he's a decent bloke then what's the alternative? |
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Oct 11, 2023 10:18:30 GMT 1
Post by htafcokay on Oct 11, 2023 10:18:30 GMT 1
That's fine. You were the one going absolutely mental when Warnock left, so much so that you got banned for posting some really bizarre stuff and now a week later, you're having a go at people because they're a bit cautious at the prospect of the ground being owned by a single person and now bizarrely slagging the Giants off? Anything you say can be taken with a pinch of salt, it seems. Not having a go...I thought we were discussing things Just because I disagree with him on warnock..(still believe it was over the tweets)..it doesn't mean I'm against everything he says he is going to doIf we can't take a leap of faith and hope he's a decent bloke then what's the alternative? As you said literally 20 minutes ago: "You either back him fully or don't back him at all...you can't just pick the bits you like when he's investing millions into the club". Have a good day. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 11, 2023 10:26:43 GMT 1
If Kevin Nagle was able to buy the stadium he would own the club and the stadium. Should he in the future decide to sell the club but keep the stadium,there would be NO takers for that deal.Only an idiot would buy a club when someone else owned the stadium. IMO you'd need to be an idiot NOT to worry about one man owning the stadium. KN will hopefully turn out to be brilliant for this town and club but you never, ever know what's around the corner. Our last owners priorities changed when he developed a terrible disease that almost killed him. Ruberys priorities changed due to divorce and probably issues around the tech boom. So far the jury is well and truly out on the football side, so already some slight concerns there. It should be very easy to protect the club though, the council just needs to make sure the lease is written such that the sporting clubs always have access and at a reasonable rent and that they can never be separated. If the council is to remain freeholder this may not be a bad thing providing it's on a peppercorn rent basis which presumably it is at the moment. That would or should give even more protection. Looking forward to hearing more detail on the plans. |
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Oct 11, 2023 10:28:43 GMT 1
Post by ram on Oct 11, 2023 10:28:43 GMT 1
You calling me an idiot Roy?
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