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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 4, 2024 23:19:40 GMT 1
Lots of people voicing concern at town property (the stadium) being held by the owner.
Questions asking why it wasn't put into trust as promised...
...speaking of which, who owns the training ground.
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 5, 2024 0:02:50 GMT 1
Lots of people voicing concern at town property (the stadium) being held by the owner. Questions asking why it wasn't put into trust as promised... ...speaking of which, who owns the training ground. Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 5, 2024 0:13:17 GMT 1
www.propertyweek.com/news-analysis/who-owns-premier-league-stadiums/5090883.articleAn interesting article on club ownership in the Premier league which admittedly is a few years old (town were in the Premier league then!). Shows that the vast majority of owners own the ground. A few have the freehold held by the council which I believe is exactly what Hodgkinson wanted. For me the owner of the club should also own the stadium, keep the freehold with the council so it can't be demolished by some unscrupulous future owner and be turned into houses. This way the club retains the profits made from the site.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 5, 2024 0:20:47 GMT 1
Lots of people voicing concern at town property (the stadium) being held by the owner. Questions asking why it wasn't put into trust as promised... ...speaking of which, who owns the training ground. Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome Think you've missed the point I was making. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 5, 2024 0:22:28 GMT 1
Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome Think you've missed the point I was making. I probably have but it was aimed at those who are dead against ground ownership by the owners. Its the case for the vast majority of the clubs. |
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 5, 2024 0:28:38 GMT 1
Lots of people voicing concern at town property (the stadium) being held by the owner. Questions asking why it wasn't put into trust as promised... ...speaking of which, who owns the training ground. Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome we will hopefully get some of the shares off the counsel for free, though many generations will be gone before it would happen |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 0:56:35 GMT 1
Lots of people voicing concern at town property (the stadium) being held by the owner. Questions asking why it wasn't put into trust as promised... ...speaking of which, who owns the training ground. And rightly so as well. |
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Post by detox on Jan 5, 2024 1:51:40 GMT 1
I'm more interested in getting the golf driving range opened up again. Farcical decision by KSDL to leave it abandoned for 10 years...
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Post by rubicon on Jan 5, 2024 7:20:08 GMT 1
www.propertyweek.com/news-analysis/who-owns-premier-league-stadiums/5090883.articleAn interesting article on club ownership in the Premier league which admittedly is a few years old (town were in the Premier league then!). Shows that the vast majority of owners own the ground. A few have the freehold held by the council which I believe is exactly what Hodgkinson wanted. For me the owner of the club should also own the stadium, keep the freehold with the council so it can't be demolished by some unscrupulous future owner and be turned into houses. This way the club retains the profits made from the site. And a ridiculous lack of knowledge as regards Town, or just bad journalism. It states that victory over Reading, "propelled us into the top flight for the first time in our history". I'm sure they mean the Premier League, as it's about Premier League grounds, but still misleading. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 9:22:49 GMT 1
I'm more interested in getting the golf driving range opened up again. Farcical decision by KSDL to leave it abandoned for 10 years... It's fucked now, it's all burnt down. |
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Post by conman on Jan 5, 2024 9:49:14 GMT 1
I'm more interested in getting the golf driving range opened up again. Farcical decision by KSDL to leave it abandoned for 10 years... It's fucked now, it's all burnt down. What a complete waste . I only went a few times , but it always seemed very popular . Surely it could be rebuilt ? |
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 5, 2024 10:15:43 GMT 1
www.propertyweek.com/news-analysis/who-owns-premier-league-stadiums/5090883.articleAn interesting article on club ownership in the Premier league which admittedly is a few years old (town were in the Premier league then!). Shows that the vast majority of owners own the ground. A few have the freehold held by the council which I believe is exactly what Hodgkinson wanted. For me the owner of the club should also own the stadium, keep the freehold with the council so it can't be demolished by some unscrupulous future owner and be turned into houses. This way the club retains the profits made from the site. And a ridiculous lack of knowledge as regards Town, or just bad journalism. It states that victory over Reading, "propelled us into the top flight for the first time in our history". I'm sure they mean the Premier League, as it's about Premier League grounds, but still misleading. Was it Chelsea fans who sang:- champions of England you’ll never sing that ? Can’t educate pork |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 10:38:48 GMT 1
And a ridiculous lack of knowledge as regards Town, or just bad journalism. It states that victory over Reading, "propelled us into the top flight for the first time in our history". I'm sure they mean the Premier League, as it's about Premier League grounds, but still misleading. Was it Chelsea fans who sang:- champions of England you’ll never sing that ? Can’t educate pork Yes, which prompted much hilarity. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2024 11:16:02 GMT 1
Was it Chelsea fans who sang:- champions of England you’ll never sing that ? Can’t educate pork Yes, which prompted much hilarity. I don't normally judge people, but I've met one Chelsea fan in real life (an ex colleague) and he was a complete knob. So by extrapolation, all Chelsea fans are knobs. |
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Post by royrace on Jan 5, 2024 12:05:01 GMT 1
I think what's important is the details of any purchase. I'm no conveyancer but it should be possible to protect town, the giants and the community when drawing up the legals to avoid any potential future problems with this ownership or ones that follow.
My only slight concern is that KN might be more interested in the real estate deal than keeping the football club competitive in the top two divisions but hopefully that won't be the case.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 5, 2024 12:07:16 GMT 1
And a ridiculous lack of knowledge as regards Town, or just bad journalism. It states that victory over Reading, "propelled us into the top flight for the first time in our history". I'm sure they mean the Premier League, as it's about Premier League grounds, but still misleading. Was it Chelsea fans who sang:- champions of England you’ll never sing that ? Can’t educate pork With Henry Winter reporting it and pointing out we'd won it 3 times before they'd won it once. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 5, 2024 12:13:38 GMT 1
Lots of people voicing concern at town property (the stadium) being held by the owner. Questions asking why it wasn't put into trust as promised... ...speaking of which, who owns the training ground. Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome You have not noticed how some owners have split the ground away from the club and then dropped the club. It even happened to Fartown, it is something we should be very careful about. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 12:19:08 GMT 1
Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome You have not noticed how some owners have split the ground away from the club and then dropped the club. It even happened to Fartown, it is something we should be very careful about. Big Ern trusts Nagle. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 5, 2024 12:24:26 GMT 1
You have not noticed how some owners have split the ground away from the club and then dropped the club. It even happened to Fartown, it is something we should be very careful about. Big Ern trusts Nagle. I do trust him. No point going through life as a cynic. I don't see many clubs on that list having issues due to the ground being owned by the club owner. I hope he gets it all lock stock and invests in the surrounding area because one thing is for sure, Kirklees bloody won't |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 12:25:41 GMT 1
I do trust him. No point going through life as a cynic. I don't see many clubs on that list having issues due to the ground being owned by the club owner. I hope he gets it all lock stock and invests in the surrounding area because one thing is for sure, Kirklees bloody won't I hope he doesn't get his hands on any of it until we know what he's about, what his intentions are and what he plans to do with it. |
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Post by King Neil on Jan 5, 2024 12:59:25 GMT 1
I'm on the fence now after originally not having a problem with him owning the ground/freehold
Matters on the pitch are more important at the moment and he needs to show us his sincerity first by improving the squad and keeping us in this division
It could take years to get back up should we get relegated...the immediate loss of 6 million in tv money is quite a concern....if he can't/won't back us now then he ain't going to spend anything in league one with the big financial hit the club will endure
This month will define his time with us...if he gets us relegated most of us will never forgive him and want him to go.
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Post by specialun on Jan 5, 2024 13:51:02 GMT 1
I do trust him. No point going through life as a cynic. I don't see many clubs on that list having issues due to the ground being owned by the club owner. I hope he gets it all lock stock and invests in the surrounding area because one thing is for sure, Kirklees bloody won't I hope he doesn't get his hands on any of it until we know what he's about, what his intentions are and what he plans to do with it. As opposed to what? What’s the alternative? An empty piece of land which was a golf driving range? A gym which is closed A training ground part developed but pulled back and nowhere near the original proposal HD1… A stadium company which is basically insolvent Etc Even if you don’t trust his intentions whatever he does he can’t make more of a mess of it than most of the above? If he invests then surely that makes us better longer term, attract more interest within the community, kids coming to the stadium more often, commercially more viable as an entity? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 5, 2024 14:37:35 GMT 1
I hope he doesn't get his hands on any of it until we know what he's about, what his intentions are and what he plans to do with it. As opposed to what? What’s the alternative? An empty piece of land which was a golf driving range? A gym which is closed A training ground part developed but pulled back and nowhere near the original proposal HD1… A stadium company which is basically insolvent Etc Even if you don’t trust his intentions whatever he does he can’t make more of a mess of it than most of the above? If he invests then surely that makes us better longer term, attract more interest within the community, kids coming to the stadium more often, commercially more viable as an entity? He'll have no problem in telling us what he plans to do then. Seems to me, so far, that he says a lot but does very little. Such as implying that he wants to keep the gym open, but now he's decided he's not taking the gym on. Tell us what you plan to do, and then we can decide whether to get behind it or not. As usual, it's all noise but very little else. |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 5, 2024 15:29:09 GMT 1
It's fucked now, it's all burnt down. What a complete waste . I only went a few times , but it always seemed very popular . Surely it could be rebuilt ? It was so popular that the company that operated it folded due to lack of sufficient cash. |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 5, 2024 15:30:41 GMT 1
Almost all clubs have the stadium owned by the clubs owner. I'm not sure why town fans get their knickers in such a twist over it. Nagle as a shrewd businessman probably sees the potential for investment in the area which can only benefit the club. Of course if the time comes that he decides to sell and we have maximised that revenue at great cost then he will want that reflecting in the price he gets for the club. We need to get rid of this small town syndrome You have not noticed how some owners have split the ground away from the club and then dropped the club. It even happened to Fartown, it is something we should be very careful about. Yup, and the 20% share in the current stadium is NOT owned by the company that is the Hudds Giants, but nobody seems that bothered! |
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Post by alexdire on Jan 5, 2024 15:56:04 GMT 1
What a complete waste . I only went a few times , but it always seemed very popular . Surely it could be rebuilt ? It was so popular that the company that operated it folded due to lack of sufficient cash. I thought it went bust due to a dispute with Mike Ashley. As they used the Golf Direct name? |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 5, 2024 16:10:45 GMT 1
It was so popular that the company that operated it folded due to lack of sufficient cash. I thought it went bust due to a dispute with Mike Ashley. As they used the Golf Direct name? Unlikely, as Sports Direct already owned a £2m+ stake in Direct Golf / Powerhouse Golf BEFORE it went into admin, and Ashley was considering investing further until accounting issues came to light. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 5, 2024 16:16:32 GMT 1
Just had a look on that distance measuring website and it is only 238 yards to the back fence, 265 to the turnstiles, 280 to the roof and 320 to the pitch. No wonder they used to prohibit the use of driver on match days. If you rocked up with some standard balls rather than driving range balls you could pepper the stadium
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 5, 2024 16:21:56 GMT 1
What a complete waste . I only went a few times , but it always seemed very popular . Surely it could be rebuilt ? It was so popular that the company that operated it folded due to lack of sufficient cash. Imagine how quickly that shit idea of a fucking ski slope would've folded |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 5, 2024 16:23:07 GMT 1
Just had a look on that distance measuring website and it is only 238 yards to the back fence, 265 to the turnstiles, 280 to the roof and 320 to the pitch. No wonder they used to prohibit the use of driver on match days. If you rocked up with some standard balls rather than driving range balls you could pepper the stadium Not with my slice, anyone up Kilner Bank was in danger though |
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