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Post by detox on Oct 3, 2023 12:35:22 GMT 1
More to the point can anyone tell me who owns canal side DH |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 3, 2023 12:38:03 GMT 1
More to the point can anyone tell me who owns canal side DH Thought it was DH who owned the land with the club owning the buildings with a 100 year lease? Did I dream that up? 🤔 |
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Post by crux on Oct 3, 2023 12:56:18 GMT 1
Thought it was DH who owned the land with the club owning the buildings with a 100 year lease? Did I dream that up? 🤔 Not sure on the length of the term of the lease, but that was ownership model when DH owned the club. I'm not sure it's been confirmed that the same model is currently in place now KN owns the club. DH has said in the past, that he would be open to selling the freehold on the land, but nothing was said when the club was sold. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 3, 2023 13:46:53 GMT 1
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Post by detox on Oct 3, 2023 15:39:21 GMT 1
According to that then, KN owns it...as the 100% owner of HTAFC...unless they are late in notifying company house of anything different.... |
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Post by huddshroom on Oct 3, 2023 16:06:41 GMT 1
According to that then, KN owns it...as the 100% owner of HTAFC...unless they are late in notifying company house of anything different.... You can own a house and not be leaseholder of the land, DH might have a big fee each year |
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Post by twyford on Oct 3, 2023 16:08:26 GMT 1
According to that then, KN owns it...as the 100% owner of HTAFC...unless they are late in notifying company house of anything different.... But does Huddersfield Canalside Ltd own the freehold to the site or just the lease granted by the freeholder? |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 3, 2023 16:48:35 GMT 1
According to that then, KN owns it...as the 100% owner of HTAFC...unless they are late in notifying company house of anything different.... But does Huddersfield Canalside Ltd own the freehold to the site or just the lease granted by the freeholder? I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? |
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Post by detox on Oct 3, 2023 17:28:32 GMT 1
But does Huddersfield Canalside Ltd own the freehold to the site or just the lease granted by the freeholder? I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? what is the £200,000 Debtor in the accounts of Gwenco...due within a year...is that the annual lease the club pay? |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Oct 3, 2023 17:35:13 GMT 1
But does Huddersfield Canalside Ltd own the freehold to the site or just the lease granted by the freeholder? I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? Get your hat on pal |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 4, 2023 17:22:20 GMT 1
I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? Get your hat on pal I think last nights result has saved me! Silver linings!!😅 |
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Post by detox on Oct 7, 2023 14:53:49 GMT 1
Just thinking....Given KN's expansive ambitions for additional revenue streams...and given there's approx £10m of repairs needed to the stadium in various areas......including all the stands that need varying levels of work doing...Would this be the time to say that rather than start doing repeirs to the south stand, but let's put a 2nd tier on it, some private boxes and possibly include a sports bar ?
It would kill 2 birds with one stone in the sense of providing a sports bar rather than building one from scratch, increasing capacity for the future and could put aways fans in one of the tiers as per Sheffield utd..The repairs (whatever they are) could be sorted in the rebuilding. It would synthasise with the height of the North stand and I suppose increase the capacity by approx 4,000..which if KN is serious about PL would be full every game in the PL..4000 x £30 x 19 games = £2.3m a season and the south stand lower tier would be all Town fans without the need for the barrier, loss of seats and massive security presence..?
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Post by mids on Oct 7, 2023 15:11:13 GMT 1
But does Huddersfield Canalside Ltd own the freehold to the site or just the lease granted by the freeholder? I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? Bullying?...from those myopic bigots 😀 |
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Post by Mirfield Lass on Oct 7, 2023 16:01:12 GMT 1
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 7, 2023 16:10:20 GMT 1
Just thinking....Given KN's expansive ambitions for additional revenue streams...and given there's approx £10m of repairs needed to the stadium in various areas......including all the stands that need varying levels of work doing...Would this be the time to say that rather than start doing repeirs to the south stand, but let's put a 2nd tier on it, some private boxes and possibly include a sports bar ? It would kill 2 birds with one stone in the sense of providing a sports bar rather than building one from scratch, increasing capacity for the future and could put aways fans in one of the tiers as per Sheffield utd..The repairs (whatever they are) could be sorted in the rebuilding. It would synthasise with the height of the North stand and I suppose increase the capacity by approx 4,000..which if KN is serious about PL would be full every game in the PL..4000 x £30 x 19 games = £2.3m a season and the south stand lower tier would be all Town fans without the need for the barrier, loss of seats and massive security presence..? You can't put a second tier in it. |
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Post by detox on Oct 7, 2023 16:47:57 GMT 1
Just thinking....Given KN's expansive ambitions for additional revenue streams...and given there's approx £10m of repairs needed to the stadium in various areas......including all the stands that need varying levels of work doing...Would this be the time to say that rather than start doing repeirs to the south stand, but let's put a 2nd tier on it, some private boxes and possibly include a sports bar ? It would kill 2 birds with one stone in the sense of providing a sports bar rather than building one from scratch, increasing capacity for the future and could put aways fans in one of the tiers as per Sheffield utd..The repairs (whatever they are) could be sorted in the rebuilding. It would synthasise with the height of the North stand and I suppose increase the capacity by approx 4,000..which if KN is serious about PL would be full every game in the PL..4000 x £30 x 19 games = £2.3m a season and the south stand lower tier would be all Town fans without the need for the barrier, loss of seats and massive security presence..? You can't put a second tier in it. Nothing is impossible |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 7, 2023 16:51:11 GMT 1
You can't put a second tier in it. Nothing is impossible Let's try and fill the capacity we've got first... |
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Post by detox on Oct 7, 2023 19:46:05 GMT 1
Let's try and fill the capacity we've got first... |
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Post by detox on Oct 7, 2023 19:46:41 GMT 1
Let's try and fill the capacity we've got first... You've missed my point.. |
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Post by Melc on Oct 7, 2023 19:58:15 GMT 1
Just thinking....Given KN's expansive ambitions for additional revenue streams...and given there's approx £10m of repairs needed to the stadium in various areas......including all the stands that need varying levels of work doing...Would this be the time to say that rather than start doing repeirs to the south stand, but let's put a 2nd tier on it, some private boxes and possibly include a sports bar ? It would kill 2 birds with one stone in the sense of providing a sports bar rather than building one from scratch, increasing capacity for the future and could put aways fans in one of the tiers as per Sheffield utd..The repairs (whatever they are) could be sorted in the rebuilding. It would synthasise with the height of the North stand and I suppose increase the capacity by approx 4,000..which if KN is serious about PL would be full every game in the PL..4000 x £30 x 19 games = £2.3m a season and the south stand lower tier would be all Town fans without the need for the barrier, loss of seats and massive security presence..? You can't put a second tier in it. The south stand was built to expand another tier in the future if required. My friend and I managed to get a tour and shown around the stadium when the south stand was being built and told that first hand. No doubt with the land behind that stand being the car park, it could be a possible area to expand out like the north stand and give the club facilities that could develop extra revenue on non and match days. It would all come down to cost and funding I guess. |
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Post by mids on Oct 7, 2023 20:36:59 GMT 1
You can't put a second tier in it. Nothing is impossible Lots of things are impossible. Me giving birth or you finding a stream on your own, for example |
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Post by jared on Oct 7, 2023 21:38:51 GMT 1
You can't put a second tier in it. The south stand was built to expand another tier in the future if required. My friend and I managed to get a tour and shown around the stadium when the south stand was being built and told that first hand. No doubt with the land behind that stand being the car park, it could be a possible area to expand out like the north stand and give the club facilities that could develop extra revenue on non and match days. It would all come down to cost and funding I guess. Interesting I've never heard this before always been told it was the antich that was built so another tier could be added in the future. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 7, 2023 23:33:54 GMT 1
Meanwhile, in summer 2017…
Gareth Davies, managing director of Kirklees Stadium Development Ltd (KSDL), said extending the stadium is “not in anyone’s thinking short-term” although it might be something to be discussed “next summer at the earliest.”
He stressed that feasibility work on extending the stadium hadn’t been carried out so it wasn’t possible to say what could be achieved.
If large-scale expansion was to be considered, Mr Davies suggested that it could involve adding extra tiers to the two single-tier stands, the Britannia Rescue and the Chadwick Lawrence South Stand.
He said that “filling in the corners” at the stadium – which has been suggested by some Town fans – “is not the obvious solution” because it would be “very complicated” and wouldn’t provide many extra seats.
Mr Davies said it was fair to say that it wasn’t currently known whether large-scale stadium extensions were possible until specialist advice had been sought.
“It is not known if it is do-able and the conversation has not been had.”
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Post by rockwall on Oct 7, 2023 23:40:22 GMT 1
Just thinking....Given KN's expansive ambitions for additional revenue streams...and given there's approx £10m of repairs needed to the stadium in various areas......including all the stands that need varying levels of work doing...Would this be the time to say that rather than start doing repeirs to the south stand, but let's put a 2nd tier on it, some private boxes and possibly include a sports bar ? It would kill 2 birds with one stone in the sense of providing a sports bar rather than building one from scratch, increasing capacity for the future and could put aways fans in one of the tiers as per Sheffield utd..The repairs (whatever they are) could be sorted in the rebuilding. It would synthasise with the height of the North stand and I suppose increase the capacity by approx 4,000..which if KN is serious about PL would be full every game in the PL..4000 x £30 x 19 games = £2.3m a season and the south stand lower tier would be all Town fans without the need for the barrier, loss of seats and massive security presence..? Given the stadium was built 1994, if any serious repairs need doing we should be suing McAlpine. 29 year old stadium needing repairs? Ridiculous. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 7, 2023 23:41:18 GMT 1
Just thinking....Given KN's expansive ambitions for additional revenue streams...and given there's approx £10m of repairs needed to the stadium in various areas......including all the stands that need varying levels of work doing...Would this be the time to say that rather than start doing repeirs to the south stand, but let's put a 2nd tier on it, some private boxes and possibly include a sports bar ? It would kill 2 birds with one stone in the sense of providing a sports bar rather than building one from scratch, increasing capacity for the future and could put aways fans in one of the tiers as per Sheffield utd..The repairs (whatever they are) could be sorted in the rebuilding. It would synthasise with the height of the North stand and I suppose increase the capacity by approx 4,000..which if KN is serious about PL would be full every game in the PL..4000 x £30 x 19 games = £2.3m a season and the south stand lower tier would be all Town fans without the need for the barrier, loss of seats and massive security presence..? You can't put a second tier in it. This is true. |
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Post by twyford on Oct 8, 2023 0:00:30 GMT 1
But does Huddersfield Canalside Ltd own the freehold to the site or just the lease granted by the freeholder? I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? But didn't Davy only transfer the shares back to the club for a £m+ consideration? Or have I imagined that? |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 8, 2023 5:35:01 GMT 1
I believe that Gweco 493 Limited (Dean Hoyle) owns the title, which was purchased for a sum totalling £550,000 in December 2010 (bundled in with some land that's at Leeds Road Playing Fields). The lease granted to the football club runs through to July 2039. So, assumedly in keeping with the flawed bullying that saw Ken Davy feel the pressure to 'return' the stadium shares for £2, Dean would happily sell the freehold for £550k...given its still sitting on the Gweco 493 accounts as recently as last year as an asset valued with a fair book value of £550k? But didn't Davy only transfer the shares back to the club for a £m+ consideration? Or have I imagined that? No, but he had £2m worth of directors loans repaid. So, should Dean be making Canalside available for £550k plus repayment of any loans he has put into that company ? |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 8, 2023 11:08:52 GMT 1
Looks like Kevin might face opposition in anything he tries to do.
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 11:14:24 GMT 1
Looks like Kevin might face opposition in anything he tries to do. It would be typical if that worthless excuse of a politician put a spanner in the works. What has that man ever done for this town? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 8, 2023 11:18:12 GMT 1
Build it and they will come.
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