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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 12:36:12 GMT 1
Looks like Kevin might face opposition in anything he tries to do. It would be typical if that worthless excuse of a politician put a spanner in the works. What has that man ever done for this town?Represented his constituents in the House of Commons for over 40 years. Which is literally his job.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 12:37:09 GMT 1
I must admit, I feel a bit uneasy about the prospect of Kevin Nagle owning OUR ground.
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 12:41:27 GMT 1
It would be typical if that worthless excuse of a politician put a spanner in the works. What has that man ever done for this town?Represented his constituents in the House of Commons for over 40 years. Which is literally his job. 40 years ago this was a proud and respected town, now it's a shithole and regularly (if not always) appears in the top 10 of worst places to live in the UK. I'll ask again, what has that man ever done for this town?
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Post by leroy212 on Oct 8, 2023 12:44:46 GMT 1
It would be typical if that worthless excuse of a politician put a spanner in the works. What has that man ever done for this town?Represented his constituents in the House of Commons for over 40 years. Which is literally his job. It's ok saying the land for the new stadium is a gift, but what about the massive amount of money it will take to build a new ground. When we losing 5 million a year and don't fill out the ground as it is. Is it worth building a new stadium
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 12:46:53 GMT 1
Represented his constituents in the House of Commons for over 40 years. Which is literally his job. 40 years ago this was a proud and respected town, now it's a shithole. I'll ask again, what has that man ever done for this town? What do you expect Barry Sheerman to do about the town being a shithole? The job of a Member of Parliament is to attend the House of Commons and represent your constituents' concerns. I'm no fan of Sheerman, having met him a couple of times, but it always makes me laugh when people blame him for the state of the town centre. It's literally got fuck all to do with him, it's not his job.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 12:47:25 GMT 1
Represented his constituents in the House of Commons for over 40 years. Which is literally his job. It's ok saying the land for the new stadium is a gift, but what about the massive amount of money it will take to build a new ground. When we losing 5 million a year and don't fill out the ground as it is. Is it worth building a new stadium Get Nagle to build one
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 12:52:02 GMT 1
40 years ago this was a proud and respected town, now it's a shithole. I'll ask again, what has that man ever done for this town? What do you expect Barry Sheerman to do about the town being a shithole? The job of a Member of Parliament is to attend the House of Commons and represent your constituents' concerns. I'm no fan of Sheerman, having met him a couple of times, but it always makes me laugh when people blame him for the state of the town centre. It's literally got fuck all to do with him, it's not his job. Lobbying organisations such as local councils on behalf of their constituents is part of his job as an MP. Not literally fuck all to do with him then.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 12:53:19 GMT 1
What do you expect Barry Sheerman to do about the town being a shithole? The job of a Member of Parliament is to attend the House of Commons and represent your constituents' concerns. I'm no fan of Sheerman, having met him a couple of times, but it always makes me laugh when people blame him for the state of the town centre. It's literally got fuck all to do with him, it's not his job. Lobbying organisations such as local councils on behalf of their constituents is part of his job as an MP. Not literally fuck all to do with him then. How do you know he doesn't? 🤔
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 8, 2023 12:53:43 GMT 1
40 years ago this was a proud and respected town, now it's a shithole. I'll ask again, what has that man ever done for this town? What do you expect Barry Sheerman to do about the town being a shithole? The job of a Member of Parliament is to attend the House of Commons and represent your constituents' concerns. I'm no fan of Sheerman, having met him a couple of times, but it always makes me laugh when people blame him for the state of the town centre. It's literally got fuck all to do with him, it's not his job. 27 of those years have seen the Tories ignoring the north, massively underinvesting in transport, the post-manufacturing economy and infrastructure. Huddersfield is no worse than every other northern town that has been left to rot. I’m no fan of Barry Shitpeas but I agree with what he’s saying; public assets should not become privatised to allow the new owners to make profit. Any agreement for Kev to buy the ground should be leasehold so the land remains in public ownership, even if the rent is £1pa.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 12:58:00 GMT 1
What do you expect Barry Sheerman to do about the town being a shithole? The job of a Member of Parliament is to attend the House of Commons and represent your constituents' concerns. I'm no fan of Sheerman, having met him a couple of times, but it always makes me laugh when people blame him for the state of the town centre. It's literally got fuck all to do with him, it's not his job. 27 of those years have seen the Tories ignoring the north, massively underinvesting in transport, the post-manufacturing economy and infrastructure. Huddersfield is no worse than every other northern town that has been left to rot. I’m no fan of Barry Shitpeas but I agree with what he’s saying; public assets should not become privatised to allow the new owners to make profit. Any agreement for Kev to buy the ground should be leasehold so the land remains in public ownership, even if the rent is £1pa. Agreed.
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 12:58:07 GMT 1
Lobbying organisations such as local councils on behalf of their constituents is part of his job as an MP. Not literally fuck all to do with him then. How do you know he doesn't? 🤔 If he does he's not doing a very good job of it. And back to the football, if someone isn't doing a very good job then they're replaced pretty sharpish. Not given 40 years to do not very much. Unfortunately though if you put a red rosette on a goldfish the good people of Kirklees will still vote it in.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Oct 8, 2023 13:01:03 GMT 1
By definition a custodian is somone, in this case Kirklees, who has the responsibility for caring for and protecting something, in this case the stadium. What exactly has Kirklees been doing then to let the stadium get into a state of disrepair? Are they going to be footing their share of the repair bill? I seriously doubt it as they are almost bankrupt.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:03:07 GMT 1
How do you know he doesn't? 🤔 If he does he's not doing a very good job of it. And back to the football, if someone isn't doing a very good job then they're replaced pretty sharpish. Not given 40 years to do not very much. Unfortunately though if you put a red rosette on a goldfish the good people of Kirklees will still vote it in. He does his job, he's one of the highest attended MPs in the Commons. It's his job. It's clear that you don't understand how politics works.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2023 13:07:18 GMT 1
A long lease would be fine for the club, and KN...and I'm thinking 99 years here...because any less and it puts at risk spending £m's on any new structures within the curtilage. What I would like to see, now HDOne has gone forever, is the golf driving range let out by KMC and it brought back into use..we're not going to have a ski slope, and the place has been empty for 10 years now doing nothing when it could have brought in some income. Fortunately nothing has been demolished so it wouldn't take much.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:10:13 GMT 1
A long lease would be fine for the club, and KN...and I'm thinking 99 years here...because any less and it puts at risk spending £m's on any new structures within the curtilage. What I would like to see, now HDOne has gone forever, is the golf driving range let out by KMC and it brought back into use..we're not going to have a ski slope, and the place has been empty for 10 years now doing nothing when it could have brought in some income. Fortunately nothing has been demolished so it wouldn't take much. The golf place is derelict. Looks like it's been set on fire a number of times over the years.
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 13:13:10 GMT 1
If he does he's not doing a very good job of it. And back to the football, if someone isn't doing a very good job then they're replaced pretty sharpish. Not given 40 years to do not very much. Unfortunately though if you put a red rosette on a goldfish the good people of Kirklees will still vote it in. He does his job, he's one of the highest attended MPs in the Commons. It's his job. It's clear that you don't understand how politics works. Ha ha so if you're happy that a politician is doing his job to the best of his ability just because he turns up in the Commons more than most others then there's no wonder this country is on its knees. For someone who isn't particularly a fan of him you aren't half going out of your way to defend his corner.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:18:50 GMT 1
He does his job, he's one of the highest attended MPs in the Commons. It's his job. It's clear that you don't understand how politics works. Ha ha so if you're happy that a politician is doing his job to the best of his ability just because he turns up in the Commons more than most others then there's no wonder this country is on its knees. For someone who isn't particularly a fan of him you aren't half going out of your way to defend his corner. Who says I'm happy? I'm just trying to tell you what the job of an MP is as you clearly don't know. The country is on its knees because we've had 13 years of Conservative governments royally taking the piss out of us, most notably up North where the severe lack of investment has come home to roost. I wonder if you're a Tory voter? Sounds like you are as it's always everyone else's fault but theirs. I'm not a fan of Sheerman, I've met him and I think he's a complete arsehole. However, I can't stand it when people blame him for Huddersfield being a shithole when it's not on him. Attack him for the stupid things he's come out with over the years, rather than attacking him for something that he has no control over. Are you really that stupid to think that Huddersfield being a dump is because of one MP?
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 8, 2023 13:19:26 GMT 1
Looks like Kevin might face opposition in anything he tries to do. Almost wish I had an account at X so I could reply with. "Could I remind everyone that Barry Sheerman has been MP for Huddersfield longer than I've been alive (I'm past 40) and in that time has done the square root of fuck all to prevent the town going down the toilet? Wish he had as much concern about historic buildings being turned into "luxury student accommodation" for Chinese Communist Party Fail-sons. Years ago, my mum had some dealings with him as a church hall (where she and some other mums ran a playgroup for young children) was in danger of being sold off to property developers. Having jumped through hoops to contact him and set up a meeting he acted like he had much more important things to do and couldn't bloody wait to get out of there. His final remark was something along the lines of "its a free market, what do you expect me to do about it?" IMO he's an utter cockwomble. Bet he's only mentioned Huddersfield in the Commons a couple of times a year on average. Hardly "representation".
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:21:15 GMT 1
Looks like Kevin might face opposition in anything he tries to do. Almost wish I had an account at X so I could reply with. "Could I remind everyone that Barry Sheerman has been MP for Huddersfield longer than I've been alive (I'm past 40) and in that time has done the square root of fuck all to prevent the town going down the toilet? Wish he had as much concern about historic buildings being turned into "luxury student accommodation" for Chinese Communist Party Fail-sons. What do you expect him to do? Can anyone actually give some examples of what he's supposed to have done to "stop Huddersfield being a shithole"?
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 13:29:38 GMT 1
Ha ha so if you're happy that a politician is doing his job to the best of his ability just because he turns up in the Commons more than most others then there's no wonder this country is on its knees. For someone who isn't particularly a fan of him you aren't half going out of your way to defend his corner. Who says I'm happy? I'm just trying to tell you what the job of an MP is as you clearly don't know. The country is on its knees because we've had 13 years of Conservative governments royally taking the piss out of us, most notably up North where the severe lack of investment has come home to roost. I wonder if you're a Tory voter? Sounds like you are as it's always everyone else's fault but theirs. I'm not a fan of Sheerman, I've met him and I think he's a complete arsehole. However, I can't stand it when people blame him for Huddersfield being a shithole when it's not on him. Attack him for the stupid things he's come out with over the years, rather than attacking him for something that he has no control over. Are you really that stupid to think that Huddersfield being a dump is because of one MP? I'm one of those rare breeds that have actually voted for both sides over the years because i've taken a reasoned view of the state of the country at the time of each general election. Are you a labour voter? Sounds like you are. Are you really that stupid to think that the MP for Huddersfield has absolutely no control over what goes on in this town and has no responsibility whatsoever for the state it is currently in? Sounds like you are.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 8, 2023 13:29:58 GMT 1
Almost wish I had an account at X so I could reply with. "Could I remind everyone that Barry Sheerman has been MP for Huddersfield longer than I've been alive (I'm past 40) and in that time has done the square root of fuck all to prevent the town going down the toilet? Wish he had as much concern about historic buildings being turned into "luxury student accommodation" for Chinese Communist Party Fail-sons. What do you expect him to do? Can anyone actually give some examples of what he's supposed to have done to "stop Huddersfield being a shithole"? Speak up in the Commons occasionally? It's all well and good being an MP with one of the highest attendances, but if all you do is sit on the back benches and clap like a seal for whoever is your party leader you might as well not bother.
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:30:23 GMT 1
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:31:52 GMT 1
Who says I'm happy? I'm just trying to tell you what the job of an MP is as you clearly don't know. The country is on its knees because we've had 13 years of Conservative governments royally taking the piss out of us, most notably up North where the severe lack of investment has come home to roost. I wonder if you're a Tory voter? Sounds like you are as it's always everyone else's fault but theirs. I'm not a fan of Sheerman, I've met him and I think he's a complete arsehole. However, I can't stand it when people blame him for Huddersfield being a shithole when it's not on him. Attack him for the stupid things he's come out with over the years, rather than attacking him for something that he has no control over. Are you really that stupid to think that Huddersfield being a dump is because of one MP? I'm one of those rare breeds that have actually voted for both sides over the years because i've taken a reasoned view of the state of the country at the time of each general election. Are you a labour voter? Sounds like you are. Are you really that stupid to think that the MP for Huddersfield has absolutely no control over what goes on in this town and has no responsibility whatsoever for the state it is currently in? Sounds like you are.Fancy telling me what he's supposed to do? Because I've asked you and you haven't answered. You sound like one of those people that thinks Sheerman is involved with Kirklees Council, despite MPs and the council being a completely separate thing. So I'll ask one final time, see if you can answer. What is he supposed to do?
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:32:20 GMT 1
What do you expect him to do? Can anyone actually give some examples of what he's supposed to have done to "stop Huddersfield being a shithole"? Speak up in the Commons occasionally? It's all well and good being an MP with one of the highest attendances, but if all you do is sit on the back benches and clap like a seal for whoever is your party leader you might as well not bother. See my post. He DOES speak up in the Commons.
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Post by scutcher on Oct 8, 2023 13:35:53 GMT 1
Represented his constituents in the House of Commons for over 40 years. Which is literally his job. 40 years ago this was a proud and respected town, now it's a shithole and regularly (if not always) appears in the top 10 of worst places to live in the UK. I'll ask again, what has that man ever done for this town? Better get the Romans in!
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 8, 2023 13:37:37 GMT 1
Fair enough, I stand corrected... But I reckon if you were to survey people in the town centre about whether they think he's been good for the town he's been paid to represent for over forty years, the response would be overwhelmingly negative. Perhaps the problem is the machine rather than the cogs within? As Churchill said "Democracy is the worst system of government, apart from all the other ones we've tried"
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2023 13:37:48 GMT 1
I'm one of those rare breeds that have actually voted for both sides over the years because i've taken a reasoned view of the state of the country at the time of each general election. Are you a labour voter? Sounds like you are. Are you really that stupid to think that the MP for Huddersfield has absolutely no control over what goes on in this town and has no responsibility whatsoever for the state it is currently in? Sounds like you are.Fancy telling me what he's supposed to do? Because I've asked you and you haven't answered. You sound like one of those people that thinks Sheerman is involved with Kirklees Council, despite MPs and the council being a completely separate thing. So I'll ask one final time, see if you can answer. What is he supposed to do? Make a difference, do something positive, contribute to making us proud to live here. Do you want to tell me what he's actually done rather than just tell me he's done his job because he turns up in the Commons?
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 8, 2023 13:39:16 GMT 1
Speak up in the Commons occasionally? It's all well and good being an MP with one of the highest attendances, but if all you do is sit on the back benches and clap like a seal for whoever is your party leader you might as well not bother. See my post. He DOES speak up in the Commons. Calm down, Barry. Give me chance to reply before responding again to the same point FFS
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:39:53 GMT 1
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 8, 2023 13:43:48 GMT 1
Fancy telling me what he's supposed to do? Because I've asked you and you haven't answered. You sound like one of those people that thinks Sheerman is involved with Kirklees Council, despite MPs and the council being a completely separate thing. So I'll ask one final time, see if you can answer. What is he supposed to do? Make a difference, do something positive, contribute to making us proud to live here.Do you want to tell me what he's actually done rather than just tell me he's done his job because he turns up in the Commons? Like what? Name some examples instead of vague statements I've told you what he's done, he's represented his constituents in the Commons which is literally his job. When he stands up in the Commons and asks questions, it's usually on his constituents' behalf. All MPs have case work, where the public go to them with problems and the MP will try and sort it out. You clearly have no idea what the job of an MP is.
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