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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 31, 2022 11:42:54 GMT 1
Surprised this guy doesn't have his own thread. Has made a great start to his Town career so far, bags of energy, tenacious and decent quality on the ball.
He was getting into the box for crosses on Saturday and made a couple of good tackles/blocks on the left winger when he got in behind Jackson.
Keeping this guy fit is going to be so important if we are going to stay up.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 31, 2022 11:50:27 GMT 1
Surprised this guy doesn't have his own thread. Has made a great start to his Town career so far, bags of energy, tenacious and decent quality on the ball. He was getting into the box for crosses on Saturday and made a couple of good tackles/blocks on the left winger when he got in behind Jackson. Keeping this guy fit is going to be so important if we are going to stay up. Agree. His contribution and tenacity seems to be getting better by the game. Really deserved his standing ovation on Saturday.
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Post by schindlersmissed on Oct 31, 2022 12:21:59 GMT 1
Surprised this guy doesn't have his own thread. Has made a great start to his Town career so far, bags of energy, tenacious and decent quality on the ball. He was getting into the box for crosses on Saturday and made a couple of good tackles/blocks on the left winger when he got in behind Jackson. Keeping this guy fit is going to be so important if we are going to stay up. Agree. His contribution and tenacity seems to be getting better by the game. Really deserved his standing ovation on Saturday. Keeping him in the team is the most important (barring maybe Nichols and Sorba) thing this season.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 12:23:08 GMT 1
Personally I think he's 'ok',, no more than that.
Just turned 23 so still a few years of developing to go and still finding his feet at this level, so I think he should get better from where he is now. Lots of energy and tenacity, just maybe lacks that bit of quality that separates a L1 player from a championship player at the moment.
He had a good game at weekend but I was surprised he got MOTM. Thought we had quite a few more deserving.
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Post by mosher on Oct 31, 2022 12:33:47 GMT 1
Personally I think he's 'ok',, no more than that. Just turned 23 so still a few years of developing to go and still finding his feet at this level, so I think he should get better from where he is now. Lots of energy and tenacity, just maybe lacks that bit of quality that separates a L1 player from a championship player at the moment. He had a good game at weekend but I was surprised he got MOTM. Thought we had quite a few more deserving.That probably shows how much we've improved. We were struggling to find ANYONE worthy of MOTM before, now we're debating who should have got it
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Oct 31, 2022 13:59:34 GMT 1
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 31, 2022 14:00:40 GMT 1
I see Steve Chicken gave him a 9 in the Examiner and he doesn't often give them out.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 31, 2022 14:08:57 GMT 1
Personally I think he's 'ok',, no more than that. Just turned 23 so still a few years of developing to go and still finding his feet at this level, so I think he should get better from where he is now. Lots of energy and tenacity, just maybe lacks that bit of quality that separates a L1 player from a championship player at the moment. He had a good game at weekend but I was surprised he got MOTM. Thought we had quite a few more deserving. What sort of quality are you referring to? If it's quality on the ball, Hogg has never had that but has been far better than a League 1 player for us.
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 14:57:55 GMT 1
Personally I think he's 'ok',, no more than that.
Just turned 23 so still a few years of developing to go and still finding his feet at this level, so I think he should get better from where he is now. Lots of energy and tenacity, just maybe lacks that bit of quality that separates a L1 player from a championship player at the moment. He had a good game at weekend but I was surprised he got MOTM. Thought we had quite a few more deserving. Sorry Slapps, but this has to be one of your worst posts and single errors in judgement I've read from you and I've probably read 30,000 of your posts over the decades. Kasumu was head and shoulders our best player at the weekend just gone. Absolute dynamo in midfield. Absolute nightmare to play against. Complimented Camara superbly. Yes, other players played well but wow, I'm almost stuck for words. We're all entitled to our opinions of course but that's shocking judgement to let his excellent performance slip under your radar.
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 15:01:49 GMT 1
We were struggling to find ANYONE worthy of MOTM before, now we're debating who should have got it No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now.
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Post by mosher on Oct 31, 2022 15:21:00 GMT 1
We were struggling to find ANYONE worthy of MOTM before, now we're debating who should have got it No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now. Same here for me, Kasumu was brilliant. But the differing opinions just goes to show the overall improvement though IMO Regarding player of the match, I don't particularly care that they've changed, but it really is needless; just call the ladies' best player in a match woman of the match. A few times the female player being interviewed has started saying man of the match and caught themselves. Lucy Bronze used to be constantly catching herself and visibly thinking about what she's saying. What really made me laugh though was a male pundit (think it was Phil Neville) saying "the girls played well, brilliant" and being castigated for it. Cut to the next match highlights and the female manager saying "the girls really acquitted themselves well!". Return to studio and PN (I'm sure it was him) didn't say a word, although the lass that pulled him up on it looked decidedly sheepish
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 15:43:40 GMT 1
I can see where the Captain is coming from. I thought they pretty much all had a great game. Jackson struggled a little when he moved to the right but luckily he got a lot of support. I think the thing about Kasumu is he is just what supporters want to see. Fast, lots of energy and loves a tackle. You can look back at Town favourites and with midfielders these are the attributes that get fans off their seats. Happy he got MOTM and great to see any Town player get a standing ovation when they are subbed.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 15:48:28 GMT 1
Personally I think he's 'ok',, no more than that.
Just turned 23 so still a few years of developing to go and still finding his feet at this level, so I think he should get better from where he is now. Lots of energy and tenacity, just maybe lacks that bit of quality that separates a L1 player from a championship player at the moment. He had a good game at weekend but I was surprised he got MOTM. Thought we had quite a few more deserving. Sorry Slapps, but this has to be one of your worst posts and single errors in judgement I've read from you and I've probably read 30,000 of your posts over the decades. Kasumu was head and shoulders our best player at the weekend just gone. Absolute dynamo in midfield. Absolute nightmare to play against. Complimented Camara superbly. Yes, other players played well but wow, I'm almost stuck for words. We're all entitled to our opinions of course but that's shocking judgement to let his excellent performance slip under your radar. Its opinions isn't it. No one in our group thought he was MOTM and we were all a bit surprised when he was announced. Im sure ive posted many far worse judgement calls than that mate!!
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 15:52:42 GMT 1
We were struggling to find ANYONE worthy of MOTM before, now we're debating who should have got it No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now. Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 15:58:07 GMT 1
Personally I think he's 'ok',, no more than that. Just turned 23 so still a few years of developing to go and still finding his feet at this level, so I think he should get better from where he is now. Lots of energy and tenacity, just maybe lacks that bit of quality that separates a L1 player from a championship player at the moment. He had a good game at weekend but I was surprised he got MOTM. Thought we had quite a few more deserving. What sort of quality are you referring to? If it's quality on the ball, Hogg has never had that but has been far better than a League 1 player for us. Nothing specific particularly, just his overall general play, in terms of his technical ability.. certainly not workrate and tenacity which are excellent. I dont want to come across like Im excessively criticising him or not rating him, because I do. Think he's going to be a good signing.
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 31, 2022 16:12:37 GMT 1
No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now. Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest.Really? I can think of FAR greater examples of woke stupidity! TBF it's not only accommodating the women's game, it's more accurate. It's a judgement of how well you played over 90 minutes, not about how much of a man you are. Danny Simpson might have played superbly now and again, Hoggy might have a stinker but I know which one I would regard as more of a man!
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Post by 28901 on Oct 31, 2022 18:12:23 GMT 1
No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now. Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest. Political correctness or woke?
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 31, 2022 18:35:51 GMT 1
The change seems to be causing offence to some. Poor little snowflakes that need to hear the word man rather than player
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Post by softboy on Oct 31, 2022 18:45:38 GMT 1
Really not sure why they need to change it. Its a male football match so why not stay "Man of the Match". We have got something called the "Womens Super League" which I fully understand is completely unacceptable in these days of equality but nobody seems to think this is wrong!
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Post by Ox Terrier on Oct 31, 2022 18:46:04 GMT 1
No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now. Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest. Don't forget those of us who identify as a kettle. It's 2022, we're not just men and women you know.
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 31, 2022 18:50:35 GMT 1
Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest. Don't forget those who identify as a kettle. It's 2022, we're not just men and women you know. We will be when the archaeologists take a look in 10,000 years time. Except for the kettles, they will still be kettles.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 18:58:53 GMT 1
The change seems to be causing offence to some. Poor little snowflakes that need to hear the word man rather than player Dont be silly. Its been changed so presumably 'progressive' flowers like you dont get upset about the word 'man' being used.. you know, to describe a man. Like that is somehow offensive. Why does it have to take into account the women's game? It isn't the women's game! There arent any women playing! It is a classic example of moronic woke idiocy.
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Post by Ox Terrier on Oct 31, 2022 18:58:58 GMT 1
Don't forget those who identify as a kettle. It's 2022, we're not just men and women you know. We will be when the archaeologists take a look in 10,000 years time. Except for the kettles, they will still be kettles. In that case, I'll have to delegate the responsibility of removing the power cable from up my arse after I die.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 19:04:03 GMT 1
Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest.Really? I can think of FAR greater examples of woke stupidity! TBF it's not only accommodating the women's game, it's more accurate. It's a judgement of how well you played over 90 minutes, not about how much of a man you are.
Danny Simpson might have played superbly now and again, Hoggy might have a stinker but I know which one I would regard as more of a man!Thats really not what the word 'man' is being used for at all.
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Post by Bubbles on Oct 31, 2022 19:04:58 GMT 1
The change seems to be causing offence to some. Poor little snowflakes that need to hear the word man rather than player Dont be silly. Its been changed so presumably 'progressive' flowers like you dont get upset about the word 'man' being used.. you know, to describe a man. Like that is somehow offensive. Why does it have to take into account the women's game? It isn't the women's game! There arent any women playing! It is a classic example of moronic woke idiocy. I disagree with you on Kasumu..He was MAN of the match for me by a mile. Totally agree with the above though. Completely unnecessary change. It is ridiculous!
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 31, 2022 19:08:56 GMT 1
The change seems to be causing offence to some. Poor little snowflakes that need to hear the word man rather than player Dont be silly. Its been changed so presumably 'progressive' flowers like you dont get upset about the word 'man' being used.. you know, to describe a man. Like that is somehow offensive. Why does it have to take into account the women's game? It isn't the women's game! There arent any women playing! It is a classic example of moronic woke idiocy. Wow! I'm not upset about anything, you clearly are. It's up to them what they say, not me. And do you know what, it's not up to you either. I take it you will be demanding they rename the Hargreaves Memorial Player of the Year into something more testosterone fuelled.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 19:16:21 GMT 1
Guys (and girls and non-binaries), it isn’t worth arguing about, it really isn’t.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 31, 2022 19:32:52 GMT 1
I think like most of the team he has improved as the season has gone on. Our pre season plan was a joke.
I do think, however he has been our best signing and would have improved last season’s squad. Rudhoni also has looked better in the last two games, just needs a goal to get him going.
Helik is also improving with fitness. Actually beggars belief though that woeful pre-season we had. Which plonka came up with that plan of two games with half the team in each side, giving the new players no chance to gel wants sacking. Oh he was.
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 31, 2022 19:52:48 GMT 1
Really? I can think of FAR greater examples of woke stupidity! TBF it's not only accommodating the women's game, it's more accurate. It's a judgement of how well you played over 90 minutes, not about how much of a man you are.
Danny Simpson might have played superbly now and again, Hoggy might have a stinker but I know which one I would regard as more of a man!Thats really not what the word 'man' is being used for at all. Exactly. It's being used to denote who was the best PLAYER on the day. Hence PLAYER of the match. Player of the match = the same term used whether it's the men's game or the women's. To equate it with those who will not only refuse to listen to any opinion that differs from their own or makes them uncomfortable - but will attempt to stop anyone else listening to said opinion by being as obnoxious as possible seems a bit of a stretch! "Man of the match" trips off the tongue a lot easier because that's what most (if not all) of us are most used to saying, but in terms of accuracy the new word is better.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 20:19:48 GMT 1
Dont be silly. Its been changed so presumably 'progressive' flowers like you dont get upset about the word 'man' being used.. you know, to describe a man. Like that is somehow offensive. Why does it have to take into account the women's game? It isn't the women's game! There arent any women playing! It is a classic example of moronic woke idiocy. Wow! I'm not upset about anything, you clearly are. It's up to them what they say, not me. And do you know what, it's not up to you either. I take it you will be demanding they rename the Hargreaves Memorial Player of the Year into something more testosterone fuelled. You were upset enough to come into this calling people names. Sort of thing an upset person does. It is up to them what they call it on their TV channel. And its up to me to think of that what I like.
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