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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 20:24:13 GMT 1
Thats really not what the word 'man' is being used for at all. Exactly. It's being used to denote who was the best PLAYER on the day. Hence PLAYER of the match. Player of the match = the same term used whether it's the men's game or the women's. To equate it with those who will not only refuse to listen to any opinion that differs from their own or makes them uncomfortable - but will attempt to stop anyone else listening to said opinion by being as obnoxious as possible seems a bit of a stretch! "Man of the match" trips off the tongue a lot easier because that's what most (if not all) of us are most used to saying, but in terms of accuracy the new word is better. Its not more accurate at all. Its less accurate! 'Person' includes a lot of people who arent even playing! You might aswell call it 'Living being of the match' so you can widen it to sea lions.. none of them are playing either!  |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 20:28:47 GMT 1
Football commentary had always had an element of parody. If it gets folk talking or even better, arguing, they've won. Job done.
Not a problem with either Man of the Match or Player of the Match or Thing of the Match but when they start asking each other for their MVP I shall be reaching for the mute button.
'Set plays' instead of 'set pieces' already grinds my gears.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 31, 2022 20:29:28 GMT 1
The change seems to be causing offence to some. Poor little snowflakes that need to hear the word man rather than player Dont be silly. Its been changed so presumably 'progressive' flowers like you dont get upset about the word 'man' being used.. you know, to describe a man. Like that is somehow offensive. Why does it have to take into account the women's game? It isn't the women's game! There arent any women playing! It is a classic example of moronic woke idiocy. If it winds up the gammon, it'll do for me 🤣 |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 20:31:25 GMT 1
Apologies, I'm terrible for taking things off-track.
Don't want to take anything away from Kasumu and his Living Being of the Match performance on Saturday.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 31, 2022 20:32:41 GMT 1
Exactly. It's being used to denote who was the best PLAYER on the day. Hence PLAYER of the match. Player of the match = the same term used whether it's the men's game or the women's. To equate it with those who will not only refuse to listen to any opinion that differs from their own or makes them uncomfortable - but will attempt to stop anyone else listening to said opinion by being as obnoxious as possible seems a bit of a stretch! "Man of the match" trips off the tongue a lot easier because that's what most (if not all) of us are most used to saying, but in terms of accuracy the new word is better. Its not more accurate at all. Its less accurate! 'Person' includes a lot of people who arent even playing! You might aswell call it 'Living being of the match' so you can widen it to sea lions.. none of them are playing either! Isn't the clue in it being called PLAYER of the match, not person of the match. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 20:32:55 GMT 1
Gammon and Snowflakes, wasn't that a Strawberry Alarm Clock song in the 60s?
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 31, 2022 20:33:49 GMT 1
Wow! I'm not upset about anything, you clearly are. It's up to them what they say, not me. And do you know what, it's not up to you either. I take it you will be demanding they rename the Hargreaves Memorial Player of the Year into something more testosterone fuelled. You were upset enough to come into this calling people names. Sort of thing an upset person does. It is up to them what they call it on their TV channel. And its up to me to think of that what I like. Let's re-read. You: woke stupidity(aimed generally) Me: snowflakes(aimed generally) You: progressive flower (aimed at me) You say I'm name calling. Laughable. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 20:36:04 GMT 1
Dont be silly. Its been changed so presumably 'progressive' flowers like you dont get upset about the word 'man' being used.. you know, to describe a man. Like that is somehow offensive. Why does it have to take into account the women's game? It isn't the women's game! There arent any women playing! It is a classic example of moronic woke idiocy. If it winds up the gammon, it'll do for me 🤣 Is that on page 1 of the 'Moronic guide to woke idiocy'? 'Don't call a man a man, but do liken someones skin colour to a food item in a mocking way.' Weve come a long way from chocolate drops havent we!  |
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Oct 31, 2022 20:38:23 GMT 1
Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 20:38:23 GMT 1
You were upset enough to come into this calling people names. Sort of thing an upset person does. It is up to them what they call it on their TV channel. And its up to me to think of that what I like. Let's re-read. You: woke stupidity(aimed generally) Me: snowflakes(aimed generally) You: progressive flower (aimed at me) You say I'm name calling. Laughable. You: snowflakes ( aimed at me) Which in itself is pretty laughable So yeah I am. Are you going to pretend it wasnt now? Throw in a bit of dishonesty? |
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Oct 31, 2022 20:39:11 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 20:39:11 GMT 1
I wouldn't say 'progressive flower' is an insult. Especially to someone who listens to Strawberry Alarm Clock.
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Oct 31, 2022 20:41:49 GMT 1
Post by Captainslapper on Oct 31, 2022 20:41:49 GMT 1
Its not more accurate at all. Its less accurate! 'Person' includes a lot of people who arent even playing! You might aswell call it 'Living being of the match' so you can widen it to sea lions.. none of them are playing either! Isn't the clue in it being called PLAYER of the match, not person of the match. It should be called 'person of the match'. Its outrageously prejudice to not acknowledge all the people who arent players IMO. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 31, 2022 20:44:52 GMT 1
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Oct 31, 2022 20:45:59 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 31, 2022 20:45:59 GMT 1
If it winds up the gammon, it'll do for me 🤣 Is that on page 1 of the 'Moronic guide to woke idiocy'? 'Don't call a man a man, but do liken someones skin colour to a food item in a mocking way.' Weve come a long way from chocolate drops havent we! Well, some of us have. Some still get upset about a word changing 😢 |
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 31, 2022 20:46:00 GMT 1
Let's re-read. You: woke stupidity(aimed generally) Me: snowflakes(aimed generally) You: progressive flower (aimed at me) You say I'm name calling. Laughable. You: snowflakes ( aimed at me) Which in itself is pretty laughable So yeah I am. Are you going to pretend it wasnt now? Throw in a bit of dishonesty? It wasn't aimed specifically at you and I'm not dishonest But now I'm definitely laughing at YOU. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 31, 2022 21:34:53 GMT 1
Exactly. It's being used to denote who was the best PLAYER on the day. Hence PLAYER of the match. Player of the match = the same term used whether it's the men's game or the women's. To equate it with those who will not only refuse to listen to any opinion that differs from their own or makes them uncomfortable - but will attempt to stop anyone else listening to said opinion by being as obnoxious as possible seems a bit of a stretch! "Man of the match" trips off the tongue a lot easier because that's what most (if not all) of us are most used to saying, but in terms of accuracy the new word is better. Its not more accurate at all. Its less accurate! 'Person' includes a lot of people who arent even playing! You might aswell call it 'Living being of the match' so you can widen it to sea lions.. none of them are playing either! The award is given for how well you PLAYed. Hence, PLAYer. The award is not for how good a man, how good a person or how good a sea lion you are. It's for how good a PLAYER you were in THE MATCH = Player of The Match. |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Oct 31, 2022 21:38:02 GMT 1
Reckon we should have a Twot of the Match.
Well done Kasumu for getting MOTM & not the former that has been won & awarded by me to a steward involved in towel gate.
& if anyone finds twot offensive please read it as twit.
🔵⚪🔵 UTT
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Post by ACW on Oct 31, 2022 22:39:06 GMT 1
Man of the match? Player of the match?
Who really gives a fuck? Anyone getting worked up over these terms needs to get a sense of perspective.
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Post by Norn Iron Terrier on Oct 31, 2022 23:12:10 GMT 1
Person of the match include officials?
Man of the Match doesn't offend, but I've got used to 'Player of the Match' as both my kids play on mixed teams. Going forward that's likely to be the universal name in football.
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Post by aca00js on Oct 31, 2022 23:34:46 GMT 1
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Kasumu
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 1, 2022 0:06:05 GMT 1
Good find.
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Post by ritchie on Nov 1, 2022 2:00:11 GMT 1
Captain having “woke” meltdowns on multiple threads.. but it’s everyone else that’s easily offended.
Also mustn't understand the definition of progressive.
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Post by onesteviekindon on Nov 1, 2022 9:07:52 GMT 1
No debate for me (and anyone else who paid attention) David Kasumu was unequivocally MotM at the weekend. I've noticed Sky Sports or was it BT, I dunno, have changed it to 'Player of the Match' now. Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest. A similar thing has happened in cricket. You don't have a batsman any more, they are now referred to as a "batter". Personally I quite like "batperson"! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 1, 2022 10:09:54 GMT 1
Its not more accurate at all. Its less accurate! 'Person' includes a lot of people who arent even playing! You might aswell call it 'Living being of the match' so you can widen it to sea lions.. none of them are playing either! The award is given for how well you PLAYed. Hence, PLAYer. The award is not for how good a man, how good a person or how good a sea lion you are. It's for how good a PLAYER you were in THE MATCH = Player of The Match. And all the players are men.. and like you say it trips off the tongue much better.. which will be why its always been that. Player of the match isn't 'wrong'.. the reasons for changing it are whats wrong IMO. this absurd desire to make everything gender neutral, even things like this, which are obviously male and male only. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 1, 2022 10:13:17 GMT 1
Captain having “woke” meltdowns on multiple threads.. but it’s everyone else that’s easily offended. Also mustn't understand the definition of progressive. Yeah I get sick of it. Offended isn't the right word.. bewildered is, like I said to you yesterday. Its just so absurd. If this is 'progressive' thinking then no I dont understand the meaning of that. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 1, 2022 10:16:54 GMT 1
You: snowflakes ( aimed at me) Which in itself is pretty laughable So yeah I am. Are you going to pretend it wasnt now? Throw in a bit of dishonesty? It wasn't aimed specifically at you and I'm not dishonest But now I'm definitely laughing at YOU. Yeah sure it wasnt, oh honest one. |
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Kasumu
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 1, 2022 10:29:28 GMT 1
Captain having “woke” meltdowns on multiple threads.. but it’s everyone else that’s easily offended. Also mustn't understand the definition of progressive. Yeah I get sick of it. Offended isn't the right word.. bewildered is, like I said to you yesterday. Its just so absurd. If this is 'progressive' thinking then no I dont understand the meaning of that. Got to rise above it mate. Save your energy for the important stuff. |
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Post by townarentbest on Nov 1, 2022 11:05:24 GMT 1
Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest. A similar thing has happened in cricket. You don't have a batsman any more, they are now referred to as a "batter". Personally I quite like "batperson"! I can't quite work out how to do it, but there's a pun to shoe-horn in here about Bruce Wayne identifying as a bat since the 1930's. |
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Post by sensible idiot on Nov 1, 2022 12:20:28 GMT 1
Sky sports do. Just incase it offends any of the women who played presumably. Obsessive,woke stupidity at its finest. Don't forget those of us who identify as a kettle. It's 2022, we're not just men and women you know. Well hello kettle… pot here. Am I still allowed to call you black? 🤣 |
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Post by goodbet on Nov 1, 2022 12:49:08 GMT 1
Person of the match include officials? Man of the Match doesn't offend, but I've got used to 'Player of the Match' as both my kids play on mixed teams. Going forward that's likely to be the universal name in football. Lets not include the officials in this, they already think they are more important that anyone else as it is. They obviously are more important than fair play, and too arrogant to explain their weird decisions. Can you imagine how pompous they will be if they got the "Person of the match" award. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Nov 1, 2022 13:57:17 GMT 1
Frankly I'm amazed that anyone living in this country in 2022 has tthe energy to give a flying fuck whether it's "Man of the match", "Player of the match" or any other innocuously named variant of the award. The mind boggles.
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