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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 3, 2023 22:15:07 GMT 1
Ruffels is a step backwards imo I think it's a sign of where our budget is this season. Warnock needs to play another blinder to keep us out of trouble |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 3, 2023 22:41:36 GMT 1
He is an experienced left back. Yuta is primarily a centre back, even though he plays left back for Japan. The other players we have for that position are all youngsters. Good players but maybe not 90 minutes for a full season. Josh could be a good option from the bench and he can score goals. If Warnock thinks he is worth keeping then that works for me.
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Post by Wings of a Duff on Jul 3, 2023 23:39:02 GMT 1
Ruffels is a step backwards imo On the face of it I'd agree... BUT He's still young and with room to improve. If we aren't going to be spaffing silly money on strengthening, Ruffels is potentially a useful player to have in the squad. With Warnock able to work on him over the summer, giving him another year or two wouldn't be a terrible idea. Still expect Nakayama to be first choice at left-back, as he was just finding his feet in the Championship when he got injured. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 3, 2023 23:52:51 GMT 1
I can see Nakayama being one of Warnock's favourites for some reason, and would be so chuffed for him if he thrives this season.
Ruffels I wouldn't have minded him staying an extra year, he was solid under Warnock. Not a problem that he's staying on at all.
I struggle to see a place for Ben Jackson though now. Probably 3rd choice left back, 2nd or 3rd choice wing back, and further back elsewhere he can play, without doing a great deal wrong last season. Maybe a loan at the top end of league 1 this season would be good for him.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 4, 2023 6:39:04 GMT 1
I can see Nakayama being one of Warnock's favourites for some reason, and would be so chuffed for him if he thrives this season. Ruffels I wouldn't have minded him staying an extra year, he was solid under Warnock. Not a problem that he's staying on at all. I struggle to see a place for Ben Jackson though now. Probably 3rd choice left back, 2nd or 3rd choice wing back, and further back elsewhere he can play, without doing a great deal wrong last season. Maybe a loan at the top end of league 1 this season would be good for him. I've said before that I see a future for Ben Jackson in the middle. With us lacking options in there, I'd be banging on the door asking for a chance in there if I were him, especially as a left-footed option. He's not quite a natural Lewis O'Brien replacement, but he has more of the attributes than anyone else we have. Not fussed about Ruffels, especially if Nakayama's fit. We have options at left-back. That said, if he does return he'll get my support. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 4, 2023 6:53:33 GMT 1
Ruffels is a step backwards imo On the face of it I'd agree... BUT He's still young and with room to improve. If we aren't going to be spaffing silly money on strengthening, Ruffels is potentially a useful player to have in the squad. With Warnock able to work on him over the summer, giving him another year or two wouldn't be a terrible idea. Still expect Nakayama to be first choice at left-back, as he was just finding his feet in the Championship when he got injured. Ruffels is 30 in October. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 4, 2023 6:54:14 GMT 1
Ruffels is a step backwards imo On the face of it I'd agree... BUT He's still young and with room to improve. If we aren't going to be spaffing silly money on strengthening, Ruffels is potentially a useful player to have in the squad. With Warnock able to work on him over the summer, giving him another year or two wouldn't be a terrible idea. Still expect Nakayama to be first choice at left-back, as he was just finding his feet in the Championship when he got injured. I know he played there for Japan, but I really can't believe that anyone who saw him at LB and CB can think LB is his primary position. For me, he's clearly a left CB (of a three) and Headley would be first choice LB. If we have four at the back, then yeah, it maybe gets a bit more complicated. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 4, 2023 7:22:28 GMT 1
On the face of it I'd agree... BUT He's still young and with room to improve. If we aren't going to be spaffing silly money on strengthening, Ruffels is potentially a useful player to have in the squad. With Warnock able to work on him over the summer, giving him another year or two wouldn't be a terrible idea. Still expect Nakayama to be first choice at left-back, as he was just finding his feet in the Championship when he got injured. Ruffels is 30 in October. That's young to some of us, sadly.  |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 4, 2023 7:51:16 GMT 1
I'm not averse to this. I didn't rate him at all pre-Warnock but Neil has managed to get a tune out of him.
Headley and Jackson are still developing, Yuta has just come back from a nasty injury and we haven't seen him under NW
Although LB/LWB was never a priority IMO, sorting that position was something "we could do with".
Not an exciting signing by any means but won't take much of the budget. I'd say this has us 1 winger away from having our left side sorted.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 4, 2023 7:52:40 GMT 1
Not very inspiring is it?
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 4, 2023 8:07:00 GMT 1
Absolute shite. That's not moving forwards at all that's stagnating. I think Headley is a much better player.
Another difficult season ahead if that is the calibre of our signings.
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 4, 2023 8:29:24 GMT 1
Ruffels is a step backwards imo On the face of it I'd agree... BUT He's still young and with room to improve. If we aren't going to be spaffing silly money on strengthening, Ruffels is potentially a useful player to have in the squad. With Warnock able to work on him over the summer, giving him another year or two wouldn't be a terrible idea. Still expect Nakayama to be first choice at left-back, as he was just finding his feet in the Championship when he got injured. Ruffels is 29 with 250+ league appearances in his pocket - is he really going to improve ? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 4, 2023 8:32:00 GMT 1
On the face of it I'd agree... BUT He's still young and with room to improve. If we aren't going to be spaffing silly money on strengthening, Ruffels is potentially a useful player to have in the squad. With Warnock able to work on him over the summer, giving him another year or two wouldn't be a terrible idea. Still expect Nakayama to be first choice at left-back, as he was just finding his feet in the Championship when he got injured. Ruffels is 29 with 250+ league appearances in his pocket - is he really going to improve ? And let's be honest here, he was woeful during his time here bar half a dozen games under Warnock |
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Post by golcarexile on Jul 4, 2023 8:38:44 GMT 1
At the end of last season Ruffels proved his doubters wrong and showed that he could play as well as having the stomach for the fight. He's Warnock's kind of player. We're building a dressing room - a team. Anybody that we do sign will have to be the right kind of character first and foremost. The gaffer clearly thinks Ruffels is. That's good enough for me.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 4, 2023 8:44:20 GMT 1
At the end of last season Ruffels proved his doubters wrong and showed that he could play as well as having the stomach for the fight. He's Warnock's kind of player. We're building a dressing room - a team. Anybody that we do sign will have to be the right kind of character first and foremost. The gaffer clearly thinks Ruffels is. That's good enough for me. So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. |
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Post by golcarexile on Jul 4, 2023 8:53:13 GMT 1
At the end of last season Ruffels proved his doubters wrong and showed that he could play as well as having the stomach for the fight. He's Warnock's kind of player. We're building a dressing room - a team. Anybody that we do sign will have to be the right kind of character first and foremost. The gaffer clearly thinks Ruffels is. That's good enough for me. So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. Yeah, and remind me who the manager is going into the new season? He knows who he wants to play for him and who will give him 100% I for one am just pleased that anybody we sign is going to be Warnock's man, not Leigh Bromby's mate or somebody identified by one of Josh Marsh's algorithms. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 4, 2023 8:56:30 GMT 1
So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. Yeah, and remind me who the manager is going into the new season? He knows who he wants to play for him and who will give him 100% I for one am just pleased that anybody we sign is going to be Warnock's man, not Leigh Bromby's mate or somebody identified by one of Josh Marsh's algorithms. So Warnock would have been signing Josh Ruffels if he hadn't played for us last season, would he? Who brought Josh Ruffels to the club in the first place? |
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Post by royrace on Jul 4, 2023 9:00:55 GMT 1
A reasonable option as cover I suppose and seems a good character, really wouldn't want him as a starter though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2023 9:01:46 GMT 1
Maybe Warnock sees Headley as the main man at LB this season and Ruffels is a reliable option as back up and also we have other cover options available.
I'm ok with that.
I see other areas of the pitch in need of greater investment than any of our defence.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 4, 2023 9:11:16 GMT 1
At the end of last season Ruffels proved his doubters wrong and showed that he could play as well as having the stomach for the fight. He's Warnock's kind of player. We're building a dressing room - a team. Anybody that we do sign will have to be the right kind of character first and foremost. The gaffer clearly thinks Ruffels is. That's good enough for me. So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. The same Neil Warnock that's manager for this season 🤔 |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 4, 2023 9:15:22 GMT 1
On the ticker on Sky Sports News it's saying he's expected to sign a two year deal - I think when they even report the length of the deal that suggests it's pretty likely to happen and is more than speculation
He was a regular after Warnock came in and played a full part in our amazing run of form toward the end of the season
Attitude wise he seems a good fit and while not the most exciting signing he ticks enough boxes to make sense to me
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 4, 2023 9:18:46 GMT 1
So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. The same Neil Warnock that's manager for this season 🤔 Okay then, he's a fucking brilliant signing. After two seasons of being utter fucking crap, he had a period of about eight games where he played well and well beyond his capabilities. Give him a ten year contract for fucks sake. Town fans complain like fuck about lack of ambition and then in the same breath are happy about us giving contracts to players that have done next to nothing for us until their contract is up for renewal. These days Simon Baldry would be called a Town legend by our fans. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 4, 2023 9:19:17 GMT 1
At the end of last season Ruffels proved his doubters wrong and showed that he could play as well as having the stomach for the fight. He's Warnock's kind of player. We're building a dressing room - a team. Anybody that we do sign will have to be the right kind of character first and foremost. The gaffer clearly thinks Ruffels is. That's good enough for me. So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. Koroma had also had a long spell of being not particularly good. Ruffels was awful first 2/3 of last season, the season before that he was ok I thought, there was a spell where he was doing better than Toffolo, whose place in the side was saved in the end by him going on a scoring run. |
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Post by ldotm on Jul 4, 2023 9:20:15 GMT 1
Not an exciting signing at all BUT if Warnock wants him then that’s good enough for me
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 4, 2023 9:20:50 GMT 1
So are we pretending he wasn't rubbish for the vast majority of his time here? There's only one reason why Ruffels (and a number of other players last season) played well at the end of last season, he's called Neil Warnock. . Ruffels was awful first 2/3 of last season, the season before that he was ok I thought, there was a spell where he was doing better than Toffolo, whose place in the side was saved in the end by him going on a scoring run. I know, but you'd think he was the second coming of Maradona judging by comments on here. |
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Post by bluebell on Jul 4, 2023 9:21:01 GMT 1
I begs the question, who relesed him in the first place then ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2023 9:24:11 GMT 1
I begs the question, who relesed him in the first place then ? Because his contract had ended and no agreement had been reached ? Maybe a change of heart from either party now ? |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 4, 2023 9:29:40 GMT 1
I begs the question, who relesed him in the first place then ? Because his contract had ended and no agreement had been reached ? Maybe a change of heart from either party now ? Maybe we couldn’t find a suitable replacement.Which is slightly worrying if it’s the case. |
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Post by bluebell on Jul 4, 2023 9:30:06 GMT 1
I begs the question, who relesed him in the first place then ? Because his contract had ended and no agreement had been reached ? Maybe a change of heart from either party now ? But if you look back, it said on the website that we were in disscussions with JK/DW- Now am going at the angle that maybe the club, thought warnock at that point wasn't staying on . Therefore made choices on the idea he wouldn't be. Warnock agrees to stay on so Ruffles gets a contract offer.
Its not often a player gets "released" actually on the list as such, then gets a contract offer weeks later to be fair.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 4, 2023 9:32:33 GMT 1
The same Neil Warnock that's manager for this season 🤔 Okay then, he's a fucking brilliant signing. After two seasons of being utter fucking crap, he had a period of about eight games where he played well and well beyond his capabilities. Give him a ten year contract for fucks sake. Town fans complain like fuck about lack of ambition and then in the same breath are happy about us giving contracts to players that have done next to nothing for us until their contract is up for renewal. These days Simon Baldry would be called a Town legend by our fans. Go and have a wank and calm down FFS 😁. You always go off on one 🙄. No one said he wasn't crap before Warnock got hold of him. It's not exciting but as a cheap signing that Warnock trusts, when needed, where's the problem if that saving allows us to spend on a bit more quality elsewhere. Surely we have to trust the judgement of the bloke who's managed 1600 games. |
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