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Post by space hardware on Oct 29, 2023 20:48:03 GMT 1
They made up a deficit of four points in 39 matches. It's a fair point but they did the job they were brought in to do. Like I said, I had no time for their touchline pissfarting around or second hand car salesman schtick in interviews. The club was a fucking disaster zone when they were brought in and they stopped a second successive relegation, that can't be denied. |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 29, 2023 20:51:40 GMT 1
They were on an upward trajectory until they joined Town … not sure if that says more about us or them! To say they’re League 2 at best seems a bit harsh as they’d got Lincoln to L1 and were doing well. Took over a team devoid of confidence and kept us up. That said, they were embarrassing on the touchline and talked absolute shite. I bet they regretted coming to Town.
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Post by space hardware on Oct 29, 2023 21:10:18 GMT 1
They were on an upward trajectory until they joined Town … not sure if that says more about us or them! To say they’re League 2 at best seems a bit harsh as they’d got Lincoln to L1 and were doing well. Took over a team devoid of confidence and kept us up. That said, they were embarrassing on the touchline and talked absolute shite. I bet they regretted coming to Town. Yes, they were hot property when they came here, very much on the up and up. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 29, 2023 21:12:08 GMT 1
The culture of losing within the club, the absolute numb nuts chairman, we were a basket case heading one way when they took over. I didn't like them or their football but they deserve a bit of credit for turning that ship around. Would prefer them here right now to the current incumbent, if I'm honest.TBF I doubt you've set that bar very high. PS Can see both sides of this one they did well to turn things around but especially after January & Covid should have done much better with that squad. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 29, 2023 21:13:21 GMT 1
They made up a deficit of four points in 39 matches. It's a fair point but they did the job they were brought in to do. Like I said, I had no time for their touchline pissfarting around or second hand car salesman schtick in interviews. The club was a fucking disaster zone when they were brought in and they stopped a second successive relegation, that can't be denied. They did, but they made hard work of it. My memories are that we were more-or-less out of trouble by January, some people were even talking of play-off pushes (ha!) and then after they brought their own players in, they dragged us back into trouble and we stayed up with one game to spare. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 29, 2023 21:16:24 GMT 1
They were on an upward trajectory until they joined Town … not sure if that says more about us or them! To say they’re League 2 at best seems a bit harsh as they’d got Lincoln to L1 and were doing well. Took over a team devoid of confidence and kept us up. That said, they were embarrassing on the touchline and talked absolute shite. I bet they regretted coming to Town. They took charge of seven League One matches at Lincoln and then their two and a half years at Portsmouth were very average. They took over a club just outside the play-offs and left them in 12th. League Two is the highest division they've had any success in so I don't think it's that harsh, really. |
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Post by specialun on Oct 29, 2023 21:21:36 GMT 1
We had won 1 in 37 / 9 months before they were appointed - acknowledging most in premier league
They took over and won 13 & lost 15 league games
Did a good job imo
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Post by space hardware on Oct 29, 2023 21:22:27 GMT 1
It's a fair point but they did the job they were brought in to do. Like I said, I had no time for their touchline pissfarting around or second hand car salesman schtick in interviews. The club was a fucking disaster zone when they were brought in and they stopped a second successive relegation, that can't be denied. They did, but they made hard work of it. My memories are that we were more-or-less out of trouble by January, some people were even talking of play-off pushes (ha!) and then after they brought their own players in, they dragged us back into trouble and we stayed up with one game to spare. That time is a bit of a blur for me, personally, and football was the last thing on my mind. But yes, they were a bit of a conundrum as a managerial team. Some good stuff, some shit stuff, but they ultimately did what was asked of them. |
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Post by htafcokay on Oct 29, 2023 21:25:45 GMT 1
They did, but they made hard work of it. My memories are that we were more-or-less out of trouble by January, some people were even talking of play-off pushes (ha!) and then after they brought their own players in, they dragged us back into trouble and we stayed up with one game to spare. That time is a bit of a blur for me, personally, and football was the last thing on my mind. But yes, they were a bit of a conundrum as a managerial team. Some good stuff, some shit stuff, but they ultimately did what was asked of them. It represents a very dull part of our history for me. Best thing Hodgkinson did was get rid of them, completely against popular opinion as well. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 29, 2023 21:29:25 GMT 1
All you need to do is look at Portsmouth since they get sacked....
That tells you all you need to know.
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 29, 2023 21:29:32 GMT 1
They were on an upward trajectory until they joined Town … not sure if that says more about us or them! To say they’re League 2 at best seems a bit harsh as they’d got Lincoln to L1 and were doing well. Took over a team devoid of confidence and kept us up. That said, they were embarrassing on the touchline and talked absolute shite. I bet they regretted coming to Town. They took charge of seven League One matches at Lincoln and then their two and a half years at Portsmouth were very average. They took over a club just outside the play-offs and left them in 12th. League Two is the highest division they've had any success in so I don't think it's that harsh, really. As I said, they were on the way up when they came to us. It’s not gone to plan since, that’s for sure. |
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Oct 29, 2023 21:39:40 GMT 1
I'd still rather have tbem than Mr Nice Guy
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Post by Teddington Ted on Oct 29, 2023 21:40:23 GMT 1
They were exactly the type of management team we needed to stop the rot - tough, back to basics, no nonsense stuff. But that’s all they had and once we stopped the free fall we needed so much more to get the best out of the players we had.
They stopped the rot but would never have done any more. The squad they had was stronger than the one we had during the second season in the PL.
Better managers would have been able to build during the second half of the season. They regressed. Add the dire football and embarrassing touch line antics - we were the peak of their career and they will find their level way back down the pyramid.
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Post by goodbet on Oct 30, 2023 0:36:36 GMT 1
What I seem to remember was that we still had a good squad of players who appeared to be somewhat shell shocked from the Premier League experience and looked tired and despondent.
I think that the Cowleys were nasty and ugly but did the job that was required to stop us being relegated.
I thought that we may have been facing a repeat of the 70's experience where we slipped through the divisions going from the 1st to the 2nd to 3rd, 3rd and finally 4th in successive seasons.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Oct 30, 2023 1:42:44 GMT 1
There's a very good reason why no other club in the Championship has taken them on since we binned them.
Their behind the scenes antics have been well documented on here in the past. Absolute cards the pair of them.
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Post by onesteviekindon on Oct 30, 2023 7:24:34 GMT 1
I actually thought that Hughes was a good appointment for Bradford. Just shows how much I know.
We should take an interest, because there's a good chance our rivalry with the chickens will be renewed in a couple of years time. Probably by not in League 1 though.
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Post by mosher on Oct 30, 2023 14:13:16 GMT 1
I actually thought that Hughes was a good appointment for Bradford. Just shows how much I know. We should take an interest, because there's a good chance our rivalry with the chickens will be renewed in a couple of years time. Probably by not in League 1 though. He absolutely was, just a pity they didn't stick with him  |
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Post by Dan on Nov 2, 2023 16:32:04 GMT 1
Presumably those family reasons were discovering that taking the job would mean his family would have to live in Bradford
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Post by Essex Terrier on Nov 2, 2023 18:30:13 GMT 1
Presumably those family reasons were discovering that taking the job would mean his family would have to live in BradfordOxymoron |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Nov 2, 2023 18:34:59 GMT 1
Cowleys rose too big and too fast. Got too big for their boots. They did a good job keeping us up, but all the antics were just too much. All this, we need to audit the club from top to bottom bollocks. The approach for Concorde was never going to work with any Champiopnship club and thats the bit they never quite grasped.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 2, 2023 19:02:24 GMT 1
They got the job done with us, therefore i got nothing bad to say about them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2023 19:09:10 GMT 1
They got the job done with us, therefore i got nothing bad to say about them. Regardless of how they did with us you are allowed a wider perspective. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 2, 2023 19:12:36 GMT 1
They got the job done with us, therefore i got nothing bad to say about them. Regardless of how they did with us you are allowed a wider perspective. I totally understand that, but they did what they were paid to do. which you could say is a step up on a lot of managers we have hired in the past or even currently . |
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Post by boooothy on Nov 2, 2023 19:29:00 GMT 1
He did this to us if you remember. Didn’t get everything he wanted so said no. Then we went back and gave him what he wanted.
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Nov 2, 2023 19:34:32 GMT 1
I remember the atmosphere picking up and Town winning a fair few of our home games before the season got paused due to Covid. Bielsa idolising aside they managed quite well I thought.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 2, 2023 20:56:49 GMT 1
I'd still rather have tbem than Mr Nice Guy I'd rather have Siewert than him |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 2, 2023 20:59:05 GMT 1
Regardless of how they did with us you are allowed a wider perspective. I totally understand that, but they did what they were paid to do. which you could say is a step up on a lot of managers we have hired in the past or even currently . They did the bare minimum with the squad they had. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Nov 2, 2023 21:16:10 GMT 1
I totally understand that, but they did what they were paid to do. which you could say is a step up on a lot of managers we have hired in the past or even currently . They did the bare minimum with the squad they had. I totally respect that , but we have had managers/ head coaches who didn't even manage that. We currently have one who can't even manage that for example. Granted i hope Moore turns it around, but he isn't doing the "bare minimum". |
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Post by 28901 on Nov 2, 2023 22:51:41 GMT 1
Presumably those family reasons were discovering that taking the job would mean his family would have to live in BradfordOxymoron How bad a case must City be if someone unemployed and desperate to get back into management decides its not for them? Those 'massive' crowds figures as well... |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Nov 3, 2023 0:41:42 GMT 1
'Family reasons' = wives googled photos of Bradford and said 'No f***ing way' to their other halves.
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