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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 7, 2023 22:32:35 GMT 1
I’m banging a broken drum here, but if so many posters have spotted that his remarks were open to misinterpretation, why didn’t the interviewer ask for clarification? If the interviewers won’t take him to task, no wonder he talks claptrap. Ogden is a nice bloke but a useless interviewer. He just wants to be everyone’s mate. There was a bloke earlier in the season on radio Leeds, can’t remember which game (it was an evening game) and he gave Fotheringham a much better grilling. Had him squirming. Sadly don’t know who it was, I don’t listen that often.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jan 7, 2023 22:37:34 GMT 1
Went today as Preston is the closest ground to where I live. Don't get to as many games as I used to when I was based in Sheffield, so thought I would go today. Wish I hadn't. Like many, apathy is setting in. Not even arsed when we lose, people at work stopped asking how we did at the weekend when they see my expression at 6am Monday morning. Almost looking forward to league 1 if Morecambe stay up and Barrow get promoted so I have local games to go to. All that abuse I gave to my Leeds supprting workmate a few years ago is biting me in the arse. Karma is indeed a bitch. Also Preston is a dump. And now Wednesday are winning. Carlsberg don't make weekends, but if they did it would be as shit as this one. This isn't aimed at you... If this happens I wonder if we will sing at every away match... 'shit ground, no fans". Cringe
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jan 7, 2023 22:41:03 GMT 1
Highly rated by staff. He was also playing next to KKH who like Ruffles left the LCB exposed. For a young lad om his debut, he didn't have the best support. Yeah - fair point re exposure and support but HE has to do a whole lot better also. The gulf between B / u23 and first teams is huge and growing imho. I remember Spencer being exposed in the friendly against Harrogate last summer. It was his first start and he had Mahoney in front of him giving no cover. KKH has been execllent last few games but why stick him at left back with a young right footed centre back, also playing on the left, making his debut. It is just piss poor judgement. I really don't care that we got knocked out of the FA Cup but I do care about our young players, and selections like that are going to knock them back.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 7, 2023 22:42:50 GMT 1
I’m banging a broken drum here, but if so many posters have spotted that his remarks were open to misinterpretation, why didn’t the interviewer ask for clarification? If the interviewers won’t take him to task, no wonder he talks claptrap. Ogden is a nice bloke but a useless interviewer. He just wants to be everyone’s mate. There was a bloke earlier in the season on radio Leeds, can’t remember which game (it was an evening game) and he gave Fotheringham a much better grilling. Had him squirming. Sadly don’t know who it was, I don’t listen that often. Radio Leeds waste their access. They just don’t really care about Town. Can you imagine the grief they would be giving Leeds if they could even tell their fans who owned the club?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 7, 2023 22:58:25 GMT 1
We are so bad at holding onto leads. Doesn’t bode well for us, given our nickname… Stray team on the loose. If found, don’t call me… 😉
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Post by alfredsterrier on Jan 7, 2023 23:03:09 GMT 1
It just feels really petty and a bit immature if you’re talking about the players needing to be serious about winning, making out it’s all their fault. Comparing KKH to a top premier league international and basically saying ‘he can do it so Kkh should’ doesn’t seem the best way to motivate a young player. But, it’s just one game albeit on top of another defeat so it’s reset and go again.
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Post by Leporid on Jan 7, 2023 23:17:40 GMT 1
Ogden is a nice bloke but a useless interviewer. He just wants to be everyone’s mate. There was a bloke earlier in the season on radio Leeds, can’t remember which game (it was an evening game) and he gave Fotheringham a much better grilling. Had him squirming. Sadly don’t know who it was, I don’t listen that often. Radio Leeds waste their access. They just don’t really care about Town. Can you imagine the grief they would be giving Leeds if they could even tell their fans who owned the club? Eh?
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 7, 2023 23:27:55 GMT 1
Radio Leeds waste their access. They just don’t really care about Town. Can you imagine the grief they would be giving Leeds if they could even tell their fans who owned the club? Eh? When was the last time they pressed anyone at the club about what is going on? The HTSA are issuing statements, MF tells them we’ve got no money and yet the off pitch stuff seems to be glossed over.
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Post by Leporid on Jan 7, 2023 23:33:24 GMT 1
When was the last time they pressed anyone at the club about what is going on? The HTSA are issuing statements, MF tells them we’ve got no money and yet the off pitch stuff seems to be glossed over. Your original post doesn't make sense.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 7, 2023 23:38:28 GMT 1
When was the last time they pressed anyone at the club about what is going on? The HTSA are issuing statements, MF tells them we’ve got no money and yet the off pitch stuff seems to be glossed over. Your original post doesn't make sense. Fair play. It was a typo. If they couldn’t say who owned the club.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 7, 2023 23:40:18 GMT 1
I think it’s time we call a ceasefire with Fotheringham. It’s no secret this guy is a complete chancer and no one other than Bromby can under how the fuck he got the job. I’ve never met anyone from Dundee that i wanted to spend any time with or even listen to and this guy is no different.
However, all of us and Mark have something in common. The rest of our lives will be a bit shitter if Huddersfield Town get relegated. We want the same thing, let’s get onboard and stop picking apart everything he says. Mark Fotheringham’s Barmy Army!
Then hopefully he fucks off in the summer when the new owner get a proper manager/coach.
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Post by willo on Jan 7, 2023 23:48:26 GMT 1
I think it’s time we call a ceasefire with Fotheringham. It’s no secret this guy is a complete chancer and no one other than Bromby can under how the fuck he got the job. I’ve never met anyone from Dundee that i wanted to spend any time with or even listen to and this guy is no different. However, all of us and Mark have something in common. The rest of our lives will be a bit shitter if Huddersfield Town get relegated. We want the same thing, let’s get onboard and stop picking apart everything he says. Mark Fotheringham’s Barmy Army! Then hopefully he fucks off in the summer when the new owner get a proper manager/coach. I can’t imagine Town fans ever singing “Mark Fotheringham’s barmy army”.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 7, 2023 23:52:47 GMT 1
I think I've nailed the problem.. too many syllables in his surname. Yes, that's it.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 7, 2023 23:55:31 GMT 1
I think I've nailed the problem.. too many syllables in his surname. Yes, that's it. I’m assuming you’re referring to why we don’t / probaly won’t sing his name and not why we’re playing shit. 😁 Or have you hit on some niche statistic in football?
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 7, 2023 23:58:34 GMT 1
I think I've nailed the problem.. too many syllables in his surname. Yes, that's it. I’m assuming you’re referring to why we don’t / probaly won’t sing his name and not why we’re playing shit. 😁 Or have you hit on some niche statistic in football? Are you trying to tell me the two aren't firmly connected?
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Post by Tiro on Jan 8, 2023 0:07:50 GMT 1
I’m assuming you’re referring to why we don’t / probaly won’t sing his name and not why we’re playing shit. 😁 Or have you hit on some niche statistic in football? Are you trying to tell me the two aren't firmly connected? Absolutely not - now you come to mention it, it seems so obvious. This is the kind of avant-grade exposé I’ve come to expect from DATM and what I’m here for. Your Pulitzer Prize awaits.
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Post by Leporid on Jan 8, 2023 0:09:15 GMT 1
Your original post doesn't make sense. Fair play. It was a typo. If they couldn’t say who owned the club. I don't know if your original point is true, given the nature of football club ownership. Some of us may remember the obfuscation surrounding the ownership of Leeds Utd when Ken Bates was the public face of the business and certain unnamed parties were supposedly involved.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 8, 2023 0:13:17 GMT 1
Fair play. It was a typo. If they couldn’t say who owned the club. I don't know if your original point is true, given the nature of football club ownership. Some of us may remember the obfuscation surrounding the ownership of Leeds Utd when Ken Bates was the public face of the business and certain unnamed parties were supposedly involved. Ah, those were the days.
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Post by ball on Jan 8, 2023 0:18:17 GMT 1
It just feels really petty and a bit immature if you’re talking about the players needing to be serious about winning, making out it’s all their fault. Comparing KKH to a top premier league international and basically saying ‘he can do it so Kkh should’ doesn’t seem the best way to motivate a young player. But, it’s just one game albeit on top of another defeat so it’s reset and go again. Disagree with this, a lot of the stuff MF comes out with is a load of cliched rubbish but I think that sort of quote a) is true and b) any player with a bit about them would trigger. And if it doesn’t then they’re exactly what he’s on about and a coaster that doesn’t care about being a winner just wants to be a footballer
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jan 8, 2023 0:18:40 GMT 1
Fair play. It was a typo. If they couldn’t say who owned the club. I don't know if your original point is true, given the nature of football club ownership. Some of us may remember the obfuscation surrounding the ownership of Leeds Utd when Ken Bates was the public face of the business and certain unnamed parties were supposedly involved. Yeah I get that. There was obfuscation but for all the messing about there was no doubt Ken Bates was ultimately in charge. And they hounded Cellino afterwards fairly hard.
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Post by harrythedog on Jan 8, 2023 0:18:53 GMT 1
I’ve been out rambling today and on getting back to the car at 2.45 decided to check town square for the team news prior to placing a bet. In a new all time low we had managed to lose the game before we’d even kicked off!! Such is the level of apathy. Even now I’ve no idea when we kicked off.
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Post by ambryboy on Jan 8, 2023 0:44:27 GMT 1
I noticed whenever the camera focussed on Fotheringham he looked like a man without a concern in the world. He either has a very good 'poker face' or he knows his position is secure regardless of results and performances.
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Post by loumacari on Jan 8, 2023 0:45:47 GMT 1
It just feels really petty and a bit immature if you’re talking about the players needing to be serious about winning, making out it’s all their fault. Comparing KKH to a top premier league international and basically saying ‘he can do it so Kkh should’ doesn’t seem the best way to motivate a young player. But, it’s just one game albeit on top of another defeat so it’s reset and go again. Disagree with this, a lot of the stuff MF comes out with is a load of cliched rubbish but I think that sort of quote a) is true and b) any player with a bit about them would trigger. And if it doesn’t then they’re exactly what he’s on about and a coaster that doesn’t care about being a winner just wants to be a footballer That’s far too simplistic though to assume that every player will respond well to questioning their desire to win.
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Post by Leporid on Jan 8, 2023 1:11:18 GMT 1
I don't know if your original point is true, given the nature of football club ownership. Some of us may remember the obfuscation surrounding the ownership of Leeds Utd when Ken Bates was the public face of the business and certain unnamed parties were supposedly involved. Yeah I get that. There was obfuscation but for all the messing about there was no doubt Ken Bates was ultimately in charge. And they hounded Cellino afterwards fairly hard. I don't recall them doing that about the ownership issues. Having said that, or using the football cliché, 'to be fair,' it's a difficult part of the running of football clubs for the average football journalist/commentator to be well versed in and to be able to put this over to the listeners with incisive questions. With the likes of Mark Fotheringham, Carlos Corberan, Ian Holloway, Stan Ternant, David Wagner, et al, penetrating questions are not required, rather a few basic questions and let them talk, and let the listeners make up their own minds about the content and the respective managers.
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Post by Leporid on Jan 8, 2023 1:13:52 GMT 1
I don't know if your original point is true, given the nature of football club ownership. Some of us may remember the obfuscation surrounding the ownership of Leeds Utd when Ken Bates was the public face of the business and certain unnamed parties were supposedly involved. Ah, those were the days. Yes, bring back Norman Bates.
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Post by terrierbite on Jan 8, 2023 10:07:00 GMT 1
I’m banging a broken drum here, but if so many posters have spotted that his remarks were open to misinterpretation, why didn’t the interviewer ask for clarification? If the interviewers won’t take him to task, no wonder he talks claptrap. That is something which makes my blood boil with the inane happy clapper questions which Oggy from Radio Leeds asks ,would be better Glennon asking the questions .
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 8, 2023 10:20:04 GMT 1
I’m banging a broken drum here, but if so many posters have spotted that his remarks were open to misinterpretation, why didn’t the interviewer ask for clarification? If the interviewers won’t take him to task, no wonder he talks claptrap. That is something which makes my blood boil with the inane happy clapper questions which Oggy from Radio Leeds asks ,would be better Glennon asking the questions . Seems to be the way of the journalism world right now. Whether the subject is NHS, economy, Covid or the limitation of Mark Fotheringham, journalists don’t seem to have the ability to dig into the key issues and simply deliver simplistic sound bites leaving us all to make our own minds up.
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Post by belizian on Jan 8, 2023 10:48:38 GMT 1
Extended highlights on PNE Ifollow www.pnefc.net/ifollow/latest-videos/Sorry...played once and now saying you need to log on. Anyway, after watching this and watching MOTD earlier it became obvious just how poor we really are. There really seems to be better teams, and players, in the non-league never mind div one. It's really quite depressing.
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Post by araucaria on Jan 8, 2023 11:00:24 GMT 1
I think it’s time we call a ceasefire with Fotheringham. It’s no secret this guy is a complete chancer and no one other than Bromby can under how the fuck he got the job. I’ve never met anyone from Dundee that i wanted to spend any time with or even listen to and this guy is no different. However, all of us and Mark have something in common. The rest of our lives will be a bit shitter if Huddersfield Town get relegated. We want the same thing, let’s get onboard and stop picking apart everything he says. Mark Fotheringham’s Barmy Army! Then hopefully he fucks off in the summer when the new owner get a proper manager/coach. I can’t imagine Town fans ever singing “Mark Fotheringham’s barmy army”. I remember Town leading late in the game at QPR in 2019 and a chant of 'Jan Siewert's barmy army', which lasted a very short while until the home team equalised. He was gone 6 days later.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Jan 8, 2023 12:41:42 GMT 1
Don’t think Botheringthem should be calling out individual players (in public) for making mistakes.
Can’t be doing much for confidence
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