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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 19, 2023 13:10:34 GMT 1
Everton longest in Top flight but Arsenal longest in P.L. Not true I'm afraid. Arsenal have 89 consecutive seasons in the top flight, followed by Everton with 61. Since neither have ever been relegated from the PL (yet) they have identical records in that respect. Everton definitely have the most seasons played in the English top flight, not consecutive but the most. |
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Post by mosher on Jan 19, 2023 13:31:13 GMT 1
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 19, 2023 13:49:16 GMT 1
Not true I'm afraid. Arsenal have 89 consecutive seasons in the top flight, followed by Everton with 61. Since neither have ever been relegated from the PL (yet) they have identical records in that respect. Everton definitely have the most seasons played in the English top flight, not consecutive but the most. Yes that's true, but as I made clear from the start Arsenal have the most number of CONSECUTIVE seasons in the top flight. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 19, 2023 17:04:14 GMT 1
You were there? Can I be cheeky and ask how old you are sir? On my profile Born 1940..82 in todays values.  You've seen countless centre forwards over the years. Was Glazzard our best ever? |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 19, 2023 17:16:59 GMT 1
On my profile Born 1940..82 in todays values. You've seen countless centre forwards over the years. Was Glazzard our best ever? George "Bomber" Brown was better than Glazzard. Scored more and took two fewer years to bag them. Apparently he was simply awesome.  Played - and scored - for England too.  |
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Post by Champers on Jan 19, 2023 17:31:23 GMT 1
I've nothing much against Everton but it would be a little bit funny at least if they did go down, after losing 2-1 to them in a league cup tie a few years ago i remember an Everton fan asking.."did you enjoy that blah blah blah" as if Everton were high and mighty the patronising twat, well we could be on a level playing field next season if we manage to stay up. Everton fans have been deluded for decades. The glory years of the 1980s are a very long time ago. Will be interesting to see if their new stadium is up and running in time for "lower league football". Sorry, but as someone who goes to Goodison Park a fair amount and has also done a few aways with them in recent years I have to say your comment about delusion is as far wide of the mark as you can get. Everton fans are so self-deprecating they make us lot look like eternal optimists. They're a big club and their fans are certainly aware of that, but they most definitely do not act like they've a divine right to anything. In fact, many have been expecting a period like this for a long, long time. All they ask for is for the owners and players to treat the club and its incredibly loyal support with the respect that it deserves (and that doesn't mean chucking money at shit and hoping that it sticks). You can have a go at the owners, the manager, even some of the players until your heart is content, but I can't accept someone slandering their supporters who are by and large some of the best I've watched the game with in my near 40 years of going to matches. Sorry. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jan 19, 2023 17:41:40 GMT 1
On my profile Born 1940..82 in todays values. You've seen countless centre forwards over the years. Was Glazzard our best ever? He was my Dads favourite of all time but loved Franky W. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 19, 2023 21:49:01 GMT 1
You've seen countless centre forwards over the years. Was Glazzard our best ever? George "Bomber" Brown was better than Glazzard. Scored more and took two fewer years to bag them. Apparently he was simply awesome. Played - and scored - for England too. Yes but what you have to factor into that is that the standard of football in the 1920's was absolute shite. I hate to burst the bubble of our own success back then, but we were the best of a very very bad bunch. You only have to look at some of the old footage to see what I mean. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 19, 2023 23:03:26 GMT 1
George "Bomber" Brown was better than Glazzard. Scored more and took two fewer years to bag them. Apparently he was simply awesome. Played - and scored - for England too. I can't believe that you are going down this road. Unbelievable. But nevertheless, you can only beat - and score against - whatever is put in front of you. I suppose that in fifty years time people will look back and say, yeah, that Man City side which was absolutely rammed with stellar world class international super-athletes; they were crap really because they only ever played other shit sides packed to the gunnels with multi-million pound valued players. Wow. |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jan 19, 2023 23:07:43 GMT 1
Wikipedia is wrong, actually. He was the goalkeeping coach under Peter Jackson (presumably through his links with Terry Yorath) and was playing for Torquay United at the same time. Due to an injury crisis around the time of an F.A. Cup match with Derby County, 'Jacko' tried to loan him from Torquay but the move fell through. Phil Senior ended up on the bench instead. Aaaah, that's what I remember then, the coaching part, which is why I put MAY about on the bench, glad I didn't check Wikipedia first though, though malcolm brown did. I remember seeing him taking up half the dugout, but couldn't remember why  I remember queuing up for a pie at half-time in the Derby cup replay, only to find Big Nev in the queue in front of me and he bought the last ones. |
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Post by Town1971 on Jan 19, 2023 23:42:18 GMT 1
Everton longest in Top flight but Arsenal longest in P.L. Might have misunderstood your post but there are 6 ever present PL teams? I posted incorrectly .Yes here are 6 teams in PL who have been there since it was created but Everton still the one team that have been in the most times of the top division prior to PL. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 20, 2023 9:55:26 GMT 1
Yes but what you have to factor into that is that the standard of football in the 1920's was absolute shite. I hate to burst the bubble of our own success back then, but we were the best of a very very bad bunch. You only have to look at some of the old footage to see what I mean. I can't believe that you are going down this road. Unbelievable. But nevertheless, you can only beat - and score against - whatever is put in front of you. I suppose that in fifty years time people will look back and say, yeah, that Man City side which was absolutely rammed with stellar world class international super-athletes; they were crap really because they only ever played other shit sides packed to the gunnels with multi-million pound valued players. Wow. You're missing the point mate. You began by saying that Brown was better than Glazzard, a player who came along 40 years later. The game had by then improved so much that like for like comparison is impossible. Will it continue to improve at the same rate now (your Man City reference)? No I don't believe it will because it's now reached a level where further improvement is much less likely. I think it's called the law of diminishing returns when you reach a certain point. |
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Post by willo on Jan 20, 2023 10:18:31 GMT 1
Aaaah, that's what I remember then, the coaching part, which is why I put MAY about on the bench, glad I didn't check Wikipedia first though, though malcolm brown did. I remember seeing him taking up half the dugout, but couldn't remember why I remember queuing up for a pie at half-time in the Derby cup replay, only to find Big Nev in the queue in front of me and he bought the last ones. The last oneS! That would probably be right. |
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Post by ram on Jan 20, 2023 11:26:59 GMT 1
On my profile Born 1940..82 in todays values. You've seen countless centre forwards over the years. Was Glazzard our best ever? At 12 y.o. I wasn,t able to compare in those earlier years as my playing of football previously was jumpers for goalposts,but later on my favourites were,in no particular order, Duncan Shearer,Craig Maskell and Frankie.and Rhodes MK1. But I am no judge really. |
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Post by artysid on Jan 20, 2023 15:05:06 GMT 1
George "Bomber" Brown was better than Glazzard. Scored more and took two fewer years to bag them. Apparently he was simply awesome. Played - and scored - for England too. Yes but what you have to factor into that is that the standard of football in the 1920's was absolute shite. I hate to burst the bubble of our own success back then, but we were the best of a very very bad bunch. You only have to look at some of the old footage to see what I mean. It's a bit like comparing apples and pears nutrition experts, state of the art pitches, red cards if you so much as look at the goalie, 5 substitutions, massive squads, of course todays teams would run riot, BUT, play on a mud heap, wet leather ball, no substitutes, goalkeepers barged into the net, leg breaking tackles allowed. It's a different story. |
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Post by benhomly on Jan 20, 2023 15:14:17 GMT 1
Yes but what you have to factor into that is that the standard of football in the 1920's was absolute shite. I hate to burst the bubble of our own success back then, but we were the best of a very very bad bunch. You only have to look at some of the old footage to see what I mean. It's a bit like comparing apples and pears nutrition experts, state of the art pitches, red cards if you so much as look at the goalie, 5 substitutions, massive squads, of course todays teams would run riot, BUT, play on a mud heap, wet leather ball, no substitutes, goalkeepers barged into the net, leg breaking tackles allowed. It's a different story. Only a 'so-called' Town fan would try and belittle our achievements of 100 years ago. You couldn't make it up. |
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Post by sabailand on Jan 20, 2023 16:10:23 GMT 1
Football was NOT invented with the conception of the Premier League. Sky might take issue with you on that. |
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Post by goodbet on Jan 20, 2023 16:33:54 GMT 1
Football was NOT invented with the conception of the Premier League. Sky might take issue with you on that. As long as we keep paying for Sky they won't care. They are just too lazy to backfill previous seasons data into database, hence everything started when the evil one took over.  |
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Post by sabailand on Jan 20, 2023 16:39:14 GMT 1
Sky might take issue with you on that. As long as we keep paying for Sky they won't care. They are just too lazy to backfill previous seasons data into database, hence everything started when the evil one took over. On one hand we have premierleaguecentric sky that believe they invented football in 1993, but at the same time they're coverage of the lower leagues has been fantastic, althiough i dont watch all the TV games the coverage is second to none. |
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jan 20, 2023 17:27:52 GMT 1
Sky might take issue with you on that. As long as we keep paying for Sky they won't care. They are just too lazy to backfill previous seasons data into database, hence everything started when the evil one took over. Are there people out they that still pay for Sky?! |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 20, 2023 19:31:10 GMT 1
It's a bit like comparing apples and pears nutrition experts, state of the art pitches, red cards if you so much as look at the goalie, 5 substitutions, massive squads, of course todays teams would run riot, BUT, play on a mud heap, wet leather ball, no substitutes, goalkeepers barged into the net, leg breaking tackles allowed. It's a different story. Only a 'so-called' Town fan would try and belittle our achievements of 100 years ago. You couldn't make it up. Oh for God's sake, someone else missing the point completely. I didn't "belittle" our achievement in any way, we were the best team in the land at the time without doubt. But teleport that team into the present day and how do you think they would they get on now in the Premier League? |
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Post by harrychrishner on Jan 21, 2023 19:03:56 GMT 1
Everton just about escape being rock bottom today. Is that enough to save Frank's job for another week? Maybe it's time for the fans to eat humble pie and admit their club is ready for the Championship.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 21, 2023 19:22:28 GMT 1
Everton just about escape being rock bottom today. Is that enough to save Frank's job for another week? Maybe it's time for the fans to eat humble pie and admit their club is ready for the Championship. Time for Big Sam to save the day |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 21, 2023 19:27:50 GMT 1
Everton just about escape being rock bottom today. Is that enough to save Frank's job for another week? Maybe it's time for the fans to eat humble pie and admit their club is ready for the Championship. Time for Big Sam to save the day They will have to be quick. He's favourite for the Cardiff job.... |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 21, 2023 19:40:41 GMT 1
Not true I'm afraid. Arsenal have 89 consecutive seasons in the top flight, followed by Everton with 61. Since neither have ever been relegated from the PL (yet) they have identical records in that respect. Everton definitely have the most seasons played in the English top flight, not consecutive but the most. Think there are only 3 teams that have remained in the top flight since 1970 Everton Liverpool and Arsenal |
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Post by alexdire on Jan 21, 2023 19:53:38 GMT 1
Everton definitely have the most seasons played in the English top flight, not consecutive but the most. Think there are only 3 teams that have remained in the top flight since 1970 Everton Liverpool and Arsenal The last team to drop off that list was Coventry. |
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Post by alexdire on Jan 21, 2023 19:55:11 GMT 1
They'd be doing better under Big Dunc than Fat Frank.
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Post by sabailand on Jan 21, 2023 20:05:30 GMT 1
Everton just about escape being rock bottom today. Is that enough to save Frank's job for another week? Maybe it's time for the fans to eat humble pie and admit their club is ready for the Championship. Time for Big Sam to save the day They never took to him even though they finished 8th under him, wasnt good enough for them though and a slow downwards spiral ensued which could possibly finish up with them being relegated, strange bunch. |
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Post by 28901 on Jan 21, 2023 21:16:55 GMT 1
Only a 'so-called' Town fan would try and belittle our achievements of 100 years ago. You couldn't make it up. Oh for God's sake, someone else missing the point completely. I didn't "belittle" our achievement in any way, we were the best team in the land at the time without doubt. But teleport that team into the present day and how do you think they would they get on now in the Premier League? To be honest the fact you have posted that says you have missed the point. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Jan 21, 2023 21:33:44 GMT 1
Oh for God's sake, someone else missing the point completely. I didn't "belittle" our achievement in any way, we were the best team in the land at the time without doubt. But teleport that team into the present day and how do you think they would they get on now in the Premier League? To be honest the fact you have posted that says you have missed the point. No it doesn't. |
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