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Post by blue1003 on Jan 23, 2023 18:35:23 GMT 1
A lot of managers in recent times have come to a sticky end at the Toffees...... Problem was he didn't have a clear plan, just tried to fudge his way through. I thought he would be mint at Everton. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 18:37:42 GMT 1
Bullied at school? I left in 1980. If you want to check out my being a keyboard warrior I'm quite happy to tell you were I sit. 2 rows behind Gag and Bone man Kilner Bank. Row G Seat 48 Do you want my home address? Remind me to shout abuse at you at the next game, I can see Graeme from my seat 😉😁 I'm not far along from the lot of you. You want some? |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Jan 23, 2023 18:51:56 GMT 1
So Big Sam or Sean Dyche?
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Jan 23, 2023 19:12:59 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 23, 2023 19:12:59 GMT 1
So Big Sam or Sean Dyche? Seen a post saying Jack Duckworth, but there's no way he'd keep them up |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jan 23, 2023 19:14:44 GMT 1
So Big Sam or Sean Dyche? Seen a post saying Jack Duckworth, but there's no way he'd keep them up He's definitely on their bucket list. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Jan 23, 2023 19:25:13 GMT 1
Remind me to shout abuse at you at the next game, I can see Graeme from my seat 😉😁 I'm not far along from the lot of you. You want some? Oh! In another world, you can wear a dress. |
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Jan 23, 2023 19:36:54 GMT 1
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 23, 2023 19:36:54 GMT 1
Appointed by both Chelsea and Everton despite having no credentials as a manager. Next stop for him will be some lucrative job abroad in a league where his name will matter more than his ability. He did take Derby to a play off final didnt he? So some credentials really. I thought he did pretty well initially at Chelsea after they'd just sold their best player in hazard and were under a transfer embargo. Think if hes going to manage in the PL again, he'll have to get his team promoted into it. On your reckoning Carlos and Wagner should be in charge at citeh and arsenal. Incredible that clubs the size of Chelsea and Everton give him a job. Funny though. They’ve spunked 500m since the current bloke took charge in 2016. 500m!!!!! |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jan 23, 2023 19:54:08 GMT 1
Remind me to shout abuse at you at the next game, I can see Graeme from my seat 😉😁 I'm not far along from the lot of you. You want some? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 23, 2023 21:06:32 GMT 1
He did take Derby to a play off final didnt he? So some credentials really. I thought he did pretty well initially at Chelsea after they'd just sold their best player in hazard and were under a transfer embargo. Think if hes going to manage in the PL again, he'll have to get his team promoted into it. On your reckoning Carlos and Wagner should be in charge at citeh and arsenal. Incredible that clubs the size of Chelsea and Everton give him a job. Funny though. They’ve spunked 500m since the current bloke took charge in 2016. 500m!!!!! Proof if ever it were needed that you can buy mediocrity and keep buying it. Takes a very special recruitment team to spend half a billion in 6 years and not get anything like close to winning anything.. |
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Post by mosher on Jan 24, 2023 10:22:51 GMT 1
He did take Derby to a play off final didnt he? So some credentials really. I thought he did pretty well initially at Chelsea after they'd just sold their best player in hazard and were under a transfer embargo. Think if hes going to manage in the PL again, he'll have to get his team promoted into it. On your reckoning Carlos and Wagner should be in charge at citeh and arsenal. Incredible that clubs the size of Chelsea and Everton give him a job. Funny though. They’ve spunked 500m since the current bloke took charge in 2016. 500m!!!!! According to the free Metro paper (yes I know) it's £716 million since he took over, going through 8 managers too. Insane |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 24, 2023 10:31:50 GMT 1
Is that £716m the net figure? because presumably they've had some big incomings too like for Richarlson?
If the net figure is £500m then crazy as that is, is it even unusual over 7/8 years in the PL ?
Suppose what would be unusual is spending that kind of money and not making any progress at all..going backwards if anything.
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Jan 24, 2023 17:50:59 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 24, 2023 17:50:59 GMT 1
Is that £716m the net figure? because presumably they've had some big incomings too like for Richarlson? If the net figure is £500m then crazy as that is, is it even unusual over 7/8 years in the PL ? Suppose what would be unusual is spending that kind of money and not making any progress at all..going backwards if anything. Might be interesting to see the money 'chucked totally away' from paying off managers and coaching staff? Cant sell them on, even for a loss. |
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Jan 24, 2023 20:59:29 GMT 1
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 24, 2023 20:59:29 GMT 1
Is that £716m the net figure? because presumably they've had some big incomings too like for Richarlson? If the net figure is £500m then crazy as that is, is it even unusual over 7/8 years in the PL ? Suppose what would be unusual is spending that kind of money and not making any progress at all..going backwards if anything. Might be interesting to see the money 'chucked totally away' from paying off managers and coaching staff? Cant sell them on, even for a loss. The list of managers is more laughable than the list of players. They really are a total shit show. Spending something like 500m on the new stadium as well. |
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Post by dugnet on Jan 25, 2023 23:47:17 GMT 1
The Monday Night Club on BBC 5 live had an informed and intelligent debate on the situation at Goodison.
To precis; It referred to a lack of a long term coherent plan and losing sight of your identity.
Hmmmmm.....now I wonder, in relative terms, that could apply to?
What it does show is it's easy to waste money when you lose focus.
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Jan 27, 2023 14:06:48 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Jan 27, 2023 14:06:48 GMT 1
Sean Dyche?
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Jan 28, 2023 11:59:30 GMT 1
Post by harrychrishner on Jan 28, 2023 11:59:30 GMT 1
He wasn't good enough for Burnley and they are now flying without him. Seems like he's got the job over Bielsa though who didn't want the job until summer. I wonder if the supporters are relieved or underwhelmed? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 28, 2023 12:15:15 GMT 1
He wasn't good enough for Burnley and they are now flying without him. Seems like he's got the job over Bielsa though who didn't want the job until summer. I wonder if the supporters are relieved or underwhelmed? Dyche that's worked miracles on a shoestring over Bielsa, that was taking the neighbours down at an alarming (but brilliant) rate combining record breaking amounts of goals let in and red and yellow cards 🤔 |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 12:30:29 GMT 1
He wasn't good enough for Burnley and they are now flying without him. Seems like he's got the job over Bielsa though who didn't want the job until summer. I wonder if the supporters are relieved or underwhelmed? I think Dyche should guarantee them Premier league survival, so it will be relief from that point of view. And no doubt many will be underwhelmed too. |
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Jan 28, 2023 12:38:46 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 28, 2023 12:38:46 GMT 1
He wasn't good enough for Burnley and they are now flying without him. Seems like he's got the job over Bielsa though who didn't want the job until summer. I wonder if the supporters are relieved or underwhelmed? I think Dyche should guarantee them Premier league survival, so it will be relief from that point of view. And no doubt many will be underwhelmed too. Not sure many will be underwhelmed when they look at how well the big name managers have done there recently. Even Ancelotti didn't pull up any trees. |
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Jan 28, 2023 12:59:18 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 12:59:18 GMT 1
Many of them still think they should be a top 6 club.
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Jan 28, 2023 13:00:13 GMT 1
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Post by wildhogg on Jan 28, 2023 13:00:13 GMT 1
Interesting as he plays a very specific way which requires players who are able to fit into his system. When I look at the Everton squad, they have very few of those kind of players. Although it looks like a solid appointment from the outside, it could actually be a disaster.
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Jan 28, 2023 13:01:38 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 13:01:38 GMT 1
Gordon will be a substantial loss to them too. But another 40m in the coffers though.
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Jan 28, 2023 13:44:31 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 28, 2023 13:44:31 GMT 1
Many of them still think they should be a top 6 club. So do I, but massive mismanagement has bollocksed that up |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jan 28, 2023 13:59:58 GMT 1
Gordon will be a substantial loss to them too. But another 40m in the coffers though. He’s very overrated. Don’t think he has contributed much over the last few seasons (not many have) and they won’t miss him. Dyche has the likes of Keane, Tarkowski and McNeil from his Burnley days. If he can make them solid at the back and Calvert-Lewin gets fit then they will stay up. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 14:11:53 GMT 1
He's looked alright when I've seen him. Quick, lively, direct. Haven't seen him in months though, might have even been last season. Agree with you regarding the ex-Burnley players. He'll make them hard to beat. |
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Jan 28, 2023 14:12:46 GMT 1
Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 28, 2023 14:12:46 GMT 1
Many of them still think they should be a top 6 club. No one has a devine right to be a top 4,6,10 club at all, however, overall and everything considered, they should be a top 10 club. But maybe I’m biased as I’ve always liked them, from the 80’s when they were very, very good. |
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Jan 28, 2023 14:17:52 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 14:17:52 GMT 1
I was just thinking of teams who are bigger/better..
Bigger.
Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Man Utd
Spurs
Newcastle
Chelsea
Better (currently)
Brighton
Brentford
Fulham
Villa
Palace
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Jan 28, 2023 14:32:48 GMT 1
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Post by 66738 on Jan 28, 2023 14:32:48 GMT 1
Speaking to a couple of contractors at work who are big Toffee’s fans. They have sort of accepted that for a while now they have been surviving by the skin in their teeth, and perhaps finally dropping down to the Championship would allow them to visit new grounds, to have a reset, get back into a habit of winning and if they could keep a decent nucleus of the current squad, go straight back up taking with them a winning mentality, and get off to a winning start in their new home. On the other hand, they fear that once down, it may take years to get back up. Nice new ground and stuck in the Championship.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 28, 2023 14:38:44 GMT 1
I was just thinking of teams who are bigger/better.. Bigger.Liverpool Arsenal Man City Man Utd Spurs Newcastle Chelsea Better (currently)Brighton Brentford Fulham Villa Palace Whereas, taking away the new money I'd have Everton and Villa as bigger than City, Spurs, Newcastle and Chelsea. For me, growing up, the big 5 were Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal, Everton and Villa. City were perennial bridesmaids, Spurs were a bottom half team with an occasional cup run, Newcastle last trophy was 6 months before I was born and Chelsea were yo-yo'ing between Division 1 & 2. |
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Jan 28, 2023 14:43:37 GMT 1
Post by 3Pipe on Jan 28, 2023 14:43:37 GMT 1
We were born in the same year, 1969, so I remember sticking Asa Hartford stickers in my Panini album too.
You could argue that Liverpool's fans at Heysel cost them a European trophy.
But this is 2023 amigo, not a top 10 club anymore. Not currently.
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